Re: [MBZ] Fw: CARbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
It's a semi-automatic rifle, if you put a shorter barrel in it, it's still an automatic rifle in carbine configuration. Technically to be an assault rifle it would need to have selective fire control. Hendrik who has been reading wikipedia On 17/09/14 14:46, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Balogna -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Should have beenn bologna despite what spellcheck thinks. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Balogna -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
How about baloney? Dan On Sep 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Should have beenn bologna despite what spellcheck thinks. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Balogna -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Not to date myself, but that was the default spelling when I was growing up. Baloney might be more appropriate in this case as it conveys my intent without even a hint of ambiguity. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How about baloney? Dan On Sep 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Should have beenn bologna despite what spellcheck thinks. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Balogna -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Mortadella! Take THAT!:-) Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:19 AM To: Rick Knoble; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Should have beenn bologna despite what spellcheck thinks. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Balogna -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Terminology An assault rifle is a light rifle that fires a reduced power cartridge and is capable of automatic operation. Automatic operation means it's a machine gun that fires as long as the trigger is pressed. The term assault weapon has no precise meaning but the media seems to like it. The M-16 is a US military assault rifle that fires a 5.56 mm cartridge which is a military version of the 2.23 caliber varmint cartridge. The M-16 has a 20 inch barrel. There were several revisions (denoted A1, A2, A3, and A4) with different sights, stocks, a forward assist, burst limiter, and several smaller changes. The Air Force adopted the M-16 in the mid 1960s for use by Air Police. The Army adopted the M-16 during Viet Nam, for cost reasons and because infantry men could carry many more of the smaller 5.56 cartridges compared to.30 caliper (30.06 and NATO 7.62) cartridges. The many reported M-16 problems in Viet Nam were largely caused by misinformation, lack of cleaning kits, and unverified changes to the ammo. Still, the M-16 fundamental design uses precision parts and it is significantly more vulnerable to dirt and operator abuse than the COMBLOCK AK-47/74 variants. The M-4 is a carbine version of the M-16 but with a 16 inch barrel and significant changes to the gas and feed systems to provide reliable operation. Still, for various technical reasons, bolt carrier operation in the M-4 is more violent than the M-16 and feed problems seem more common. The AR-15 was a semi-auto civilian version of the M-16 which was produced by Armalite. However, these days the terms AR and AR-15 are commonly sued to indicate any semi-auto AR-15 style firearm from any manufacturer, including rifles, carbines, and even pistols. The semi-auto version is almost identical to the auto/select-fire version except it lacks the auto disconnector mechanism and machined holes for the associated shaft. Almost all civilian AR rifles sold today are based on the M-4, mot the M-16. It is more precise to describe a semi-auto gun as auto-loading ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
