Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
Yeah so far I like my W211 but the complexity is somewhat offputting. Probably won't buy anything newer than a W126 going forward. On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, at 19:54, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > yes I wondered about my w211. Firing up the CD this week now that winter is > over > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Totally agree, but even a car as “new” as a W211, or a W210 for that >> matter, can have similar problems as they use EIS much like the GL500 does. >> >> I love my ML550, but I do have reservations about it from that standpoint. >> That being said, EIS issues are pretty rare, but when they do crop up >> you’re pretty much screwed unless you go with an aftermarket repair option. >> >> I do agree with Jim, though. In another 5-10 years many of these cars will >> go straight to the crusher when they die, as they will be unrepairable. >> >> -D >> >> > On Apr 25, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > yes no new Mercedes for me >> > . my 2005 w211 is as far as I will stretch. >> > miss my w124 300D 2.5T >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a >> >> modern Mercedes. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >> The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not >> >> repairable... >> >>> >> >>> Expect more and more of this as time goes on. Vehicles continue to >> >> climb in cost and complexity, >> >>> and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter. >> >>> >> >>> 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than >> assets. >> >>> >> >>> -- Jim >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ___ >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>> >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
yes I wondered about my w211. Firing up the CD this week now that winter is over On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Totally agree, but even a car as “new” as a W211, or a W210 for that > matter, can have similar problems as they use EIS much like the GL500 does. > > I love my ML550, but I do have reservations about it from that standpoint. > That being said, EIS issues are pretty rare, but when they do crop up > you’re pretty much screwed unless you go with an aftermarket repair option. > > I do agree with Jim, though. In another 5-10 years many of these cars will > go straight to the crusher when they die, as they will be unrepairable. > > -D > > > On Apr 25, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > yes no new Mercedes for me > > . my 2005 w211 is as far as I will stretch. > > miss my w124 300D 2.5T > > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a > >> modern Mercedes. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not > >> repairable... > >>> > >>> Expect more and more of this as time goes on. Vehicles continue to > >> climb in cost and complexity, > >>> and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter. > >>> > >>> 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than > assets. > >>> > >>> -- Jim > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
They say while they don’t absolutely need the ignition switch, the results will be better if they have it so that everything is synchronized. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > No they just need the ecu. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:09 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >> >> They want the ignition switch and key too. I wonder how difficult it will >> be to remove the ignition switch. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Get on ebay and find the exact part number of your old ECU, or >>> car-part.com. After you get the new one, get back on ebay and find a >>> seller doing ECU cloning. You send them the old one and the used one you >>> bought and they clone it and ship it back to you. Here is one I am looking >>> at with this CLK that I think also needs a ECU. >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125881244257 >>> >>> > On 4/24/2023 7:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it. I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data from the old one. Is this my only option? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
No they just need the ecu. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:09 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > They want the ignition switch and key too. I wonder how difficult it will be > to remove the ignition switch. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Get on ebay and find the exact part number of your old ECU, or >> car-part.com. After you get the new one, get back on ebay and find a seller >> doing ECU cloning. You send them the old one and the used one you bought >> and they clone it and ship it back to you. Here is one I am looking at with >> this CLK that I think also needs a ECU. >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125881244257 >> >> On 4/24/2023 7:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >>> My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed >>> at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was >>> incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them >>> doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car >>> was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer >>> start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed >>> from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the >>> car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance >>> company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it. >>> >>> I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had >>> limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that >>> I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the >>> key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data >>> from the old one. Is this my only option? >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
Yes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wonder if this will be a plug and play situation once I get the > reprogrammed ecu back. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Dealers don’t want to fool with 1) old cars and 2) cloning electronics (esp >> with used stuff) because they likely have no one who can do it and can’t >> guarantee it. >> >> Yeah you need to find the exact ECU then send both off to an outfit that can >> do the cloning. There’s a bunch around that advertise on eBay and have parts >> and services. I think one is called ECUTUNING or something like that. Most >> are in California it appears but there are a coupla others around. I think >> it’s like $3-400 or so. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> But the dealer claims that they don’t want to do it because they won’t >>> install a used ECU. Is it just this dealer? Will another dealer do it? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: I believe so. They need to clone the data from the old ECU so it will play nice with everything else. This is especially important for the EIS system, which is why they want those parts all together. They have to be coded together as a group, you can’t just swap one out from the junkyard or recode one without recoding all of the other parts. At least that’s the way it’s been explained to me, and why I avoid any car that’s got EIS issues. It’s something the dealer has to do. -D >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: > > My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed > at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was > incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them > doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car > was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no > longer start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was > destroyed from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA > and that the car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The > insurance company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to > fix it. > > I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had > limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but > that I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch > and the key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using > the data from the old one. Is this my only option? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
Totally agree, but even a car as “new” as a W211, or a W210 for that matter, can have similar problems as they use EIS much like the GL500 does. I love my ML550, but I do have reservations about it from that standpoint. That being said, EIS issues are pretty rare, but when they do crop up you’re pretty much screwed unless you go with an aftermarket repair option. I do agree with Jim, though. In another 5-10 years many of these cars will go straight to the crusher when they die, as they will be unrepairable. -D > On Apr 25, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > yes no new Mercedes for me > . my 2005 w211 is as far as I will stretch. > miss my w124 300D 2.5T > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a >> modern Mercedes. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not >> repairable... >>> >>> Expect more and more of this as time goes on. Vehicles continue to >> climb in cost and complexity, >>> and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter. >>> >>> 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than assets. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
yes no new Mercedes for me . my 2005 w211 is as far as I will stretch. miss my w124 300D 2.5T On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a > modern Mercedes. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not > repairable... > > > > Expect more and more of this as time goes on. Vehicles continue to > climb in cost and complexity, > > and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter. > > > > 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than assets. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
They want the ignition switch and key too. I wonder how difficult it will be to remove the ignition switch. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Get on ebay and find the exact part number of your old ECU, or car-part.com. > After you get the new one, get back on ebay and find a seller doing ECU > cloning. You send them the old one and the used one you bought and they > clone it and ship it back to you. Here is one I am looking at with this CLK > that I think also needs a ECU. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/125881244257 > > >> On 4/24/2023 7:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >> My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed at >> a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was >> incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them doing >> it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car was >> there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer >> start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed >> from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the >> car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance >> company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it. >> >> I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had >> limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that I >> need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the key >> and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data from >> the old one. Is this my only option? >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
I wonder if this will be a plug and play situation once I get the reprogrammed ecu back. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2023, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dealers don’t want to fool with 1) old cars and 2) cloning electronics (esp > with used stuff) because they likely have no one who can do it and can’t > guarantee it. > > Yeah you need to find the exact ECU then send both off to an outfit that can > do the cloning. There’s a bunch around that advertise on eBay and have parts > and services. I think one is called ECUTUNING or something like that. Most > are in California it appears but there are a coupla others around. I think > it’s like $3-400 or so. > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> But the dealer claims that they don’t want to do it because they won’t >> install a used ECU. Is it just this dealer? Will another dealer do it? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I believe so. They need to clone the data from the old ECU so it will play >>> nice with everything else. This is especially important for the EIS system, >>> which is why they want those parts all together. They have to be coded >>> together as a group, you can’t just swap one out from the junkyard or >>> recode one without recoding all of the other parts. >>> >>> At least that’s the way it’s been explained to me, and why I avoid any car >>> that’s got EIS issues. It’s something the dealer has to do. >>> >>> -D >>> > On Apr 24, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it. I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data from the old one. Is this my only option? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a modern Mercedes. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> >> The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable... > > Expect more and more of this as time goes on. Vehicles continue to climb in > cost and complexity, > and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter. > > 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than assets. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
> The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable... Expect more and more of this as time goes on. Vehicles continue to climb in cost and complexity, and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter. 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than assets. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
That would be very good --FT Sent from iFōn > On Apr 24, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > $125 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Dealers don’t want to fool with 1) old cars and 2) cloning electronics (esp >> with used stuff) because they likely have no one who can do it and can’t >> guarantee it. >> >> Yeah you need to find the exact ECU then send both off to an outfit that can >> do the cloning. There’s a bunch around that advertise on eBay and have parts >> and services. I think one is called ECUTUNING or something like that. Most >> are in California it appears but there are a coupla others around. I think >> it’s like $3-400 or so. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> But the dealer claims that they don’t want to do it because they won’t >>> install a used ECU. Is it just this dealer? Will another dealer do it? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: I believe so. They need to clone the data from the old ECU so it will play nice with everything else. This is especially important for the EIS system, which is why they want those parts all together. They have to be coded together as a group, you can’t just swap one out from the junkyard or recode one without recoding all of the other parts. At least that’s the way it’s been explained to me, and why I avoid any car that’s got EIS issues. It’s something the dealer has to do. -D >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: > > My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed > at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was > incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them > doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car > was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no > longer start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was > destroyed from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA > and that the car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The > insurance company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to > fix it. > > I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had > limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but > that I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch > and the key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using > the data from the old one. Is this my only option? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
$125 Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dealers don’t want to fool with 1) old cars and 2) cloning electronics (esp > with used stuff) because they likely have no one who can do it and can’t > guarantee it. > > Yeah you need to find the exact ECU then send both off to an outfit that can > do the cloning. There’s a bunch around that advertise on eBay and have parts > and services. I think one is called ECUTUNING or something like that. Most > are in California it appears but there are a coupla others around. I think > it’s like $3-400 or so. > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> But the dealer claims that they don’t want to do it because they won’t >> install a used ECU. Is it just this dealer? Will another dealer do it? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I believe so. They need to clone the data from the old ECU so it will play >>> nice with everything else. This is especially important for the EIS system, >>> which is why they want those parts all together. They have to be coded >>> together as a group, you can’t just swap one out from the junkyard or >>> recode one without recoding all of the other parts. >>> >>> At least that’s the way it’s been explained to me, and why I avoid any car >>> that’s got EIS issues. It’s something the dealer has to do. >>> >>> -D >>> > On Apr 24, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it. I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data from the old one. Is this my only option? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
Dealers don’t want to fool with 1) old cars and 2) cloning electronics (esp with used stuff) because they likely have no one who can do it and can’t guarantee it. Yeah you need to find the exact ECU then send both off to an outfit that can do the cloning. There’s a bunch around that advertise on eBay and have parts and services. I think one is called ECUTUNING or something like that. Most are in California it appears but there are a coupla others around. I think it’s like $3-400 or so. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > But the dealer claims that they don’t want to do it because they won’t > install a used ECU. Is it just this dealer? Will another dealer do it? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I believe so. They need to clone the data from the old ECU so it will play >> nice with everything else. This is especially important for the EIS system, >> which is why they want those parts all together. They have to be coded >> together as a group, you can’t just swap one out from the junkyard or recode >> one without recoding all of the other parts. >> >> At least that’s the way it’s been explained to me, and why I avoid any car >> that’s got EIS issues. It’s something the dealer has to do. >> >> -D >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed >>> at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was >>> incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them >>> doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car >>> was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer >>> start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed >>> from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the >>> car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance >>> company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it. >>> >>> I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had >>> limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that >>> I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the >>> key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data >>> from the old one. Is this my only option? >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
Get on ebay and find the exact part number of your old ECU, or car-part.com. After you get the new one, get back on ebay and find a seller doing ECU cloning. You send them the old one and the used one you bought and they clone it and ship it back to you. Here is one I am looking at with this CLK that I think also needs a ECU. https://www.ebay.com/itm/125881244257 On 4/24/2023 7:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it. I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data from the old one. Is this my only option? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
But the dealer claims that they don’t want to do it because they won’t install a used ECU. Is it just this dealer? Will another dealer do it? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > I believe so. They need to clone the data from the old ECU so it will play > nice with everything else. This is especially important for the EIS system, > which is why they want those parts all together. They have to be coded > together as a group, you can’t just swap one out from the junkyard or recode > one without recoding all of the other parts. > > At least that’s the way it’s been explained to me, and why I avoid any car > that’s got EIS issues. It’s something the dealer has to do. > > -D > >> On Apr 24, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed at >> a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was >> incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them doing >> it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car was >> there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer >> start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed >> from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the >> car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance >> company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it. >> >> I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had >> limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that I >> need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the key >> and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data from >> the old one. Is this my only option? >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues
I believe so. They need to clone the data from the old ECU so it will play nice with everything else. This is especially important for the EIS system, which is why they want those parts all together. They have to be coded together as a group, you can’t just swap one out from the junkyard or recode one without recoding all of the other parts. At least that’s the way it’s been explained to me, and why I avoid any car that’s got EIS issues. It’s something the dealer has to do. -D > On Apr 24, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed at > a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was incompetent > and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them doing it right > after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car was there for 5 > months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer start. They took > it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed from water intrusion. > The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable as > they cannot install used parts. The insurance company then totaled the car. > We bought it back and now have to fix it. > > I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had > limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that I > need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the key > and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data from > the old one. Is this my only option? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] G500 ECU issues
My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it. I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data from the old one. Is this my only option? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
