Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

That's what I like about Freakonomics, they spend a bunch of time trying to 
disprove their hypothesis which is as it should be...

Curt

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  On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   Not when manipulated by a virtuoso.

Almost nothing that is presented with a statistical analysis is done 
correctly.  Most statistics "prove" nothing.  In fact, by definition, 
statistics can't be used to PROVE anything.

> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
> December 17, 2016 at 6:03 PM
> Hence my earlier email. It really is easy to spot when they are 
> manipulated to show a certain result.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Yep.

> On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I also studied statistics as part of my psych degree. I actually was paid as 
> a statistician by a couple of market research companies. More importantly, I 
> studied philosophy of science, so learned all about experimental design, the 
> null hypothesis, and falsification. Those are things about which many 
> "scientists" are unaware.
> 
> Greg
> 
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> 
> I am sure that it’s a good book.  I studied Statistics and Economics at 
> Northwestern.  I fully understand them.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jon, I know you are a very intelligent guy.   Read this book.  It is a 
>> classic and was out of print for decades, but within in lies universal 
>> truth, presented in a humorous way.  Now it is back in print again.
>> https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728You 
>> can read the first few pages online for free.
>> 
>> It is under $10.  Or you local welfare bookstore probably has a copy you can 
>> read for free. (pubic library)
>> 
>> I was fortunate enough to get a copy from one of my several Statistics profs 
>> when he retired.  He tried to teach Ed statistics to wannabe school sups.  
>> The majority of them were dumber that a rock.
>> 
>> It is the ONLY book from college or grad school I continue to refer to!  In 
>> fact, it was not even a required book, but Dr Neteusil in the Ed Stat class 
>> kept referring to it because ed statistics (and peer reviewed pubs) are rife 
>> with statistical errors, bias and misapplication.
>> 
>>> Jon Agne via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> December 17, 2016 at 1:19 PM
>>> https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/ 
>>> <https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 17, 2016
> Yeah. My bad. I should've made the subject Fire and Ice, or something else.
> 

You like Pat Benatar too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsKCU5ll3D0

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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I also studied statistics as part of my psych degree. I actually was paid as a 
statistician by a couple of market research companies. More importantly, I 
studied philosophy of science, so learned all about experimental design, the 
null hypothesis, and falsification. Those are things about which many 
"scientists" are unaware.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

I am sure that it’s a good book.  I studied Statistics and Economics at 
Northwestern.  I fully understand them.

Jon


> On Dec 17, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jon, I know you are a very intelligent guy.   Read this book.  It is a 
> classic and was out of print for decades, but within in lies universal truth, 
> presented in a humorous way.  Now it is back in print again.
> https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728You 
> can read the first few pages online for free.
> 
> It is under $10.  Or you local welfare bookstore probably has a copy you can 
> read for free. (pubic library)
> 
> I was fortunate enough to get a copy from one of my several Statistics profs 
> when he retired.  He tried to teach Ed statistics to wannabe school sups.  
> The majority of them were dumber that a rock.
> 
> It is the ONLY book from college or grad school I continue to refer to!  In 
> fact, it was not even a required book, but Dr Neteusil in the Ed Stat class 
> kept referring to it because ed statistics (and peer reviewed pubs) are rife 
> with statistical errors, bias and misapplication.
> 
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> December 17, 2016 at 1:19 PM
>> https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/ 
>> <https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Correct.  Statistics can only predict a “probable” outcome.  Only FACTS can 
prove something.


> On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not when manipulated by a virtuoso.
> 
> Almost nothing that is presented with a statistical analysis is done 
> correctly.  Most statistics "prove" nothing.  In fact, by definition, 
> statistics can't be used to PROVE anything.
> 
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>> December 17, 2016 at 6:03 PM
>> Hence my earlier email. It really is easy to spot when they are manipulated 
>> to show a certain result.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not when manipulated by a virtuoso.

Almost nothing that is presented with a statistical analysis is done 
correctly.  Most statistics "prove" nothing.  In fact, by definition, 
statistics can't be used to PROVE anything.



Jon Agne via Mercedes 
December 17, 2016 at 6:03 PM
Hence my earlier email. It really is easy to spot when they are 
manipulated to show a certain result.




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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

HE had READ Huff's little book!


Dimitri via Mercedes 
December 17, 2016 at 5:59 PM
Statistics can be manipulated to show anything. Prior to medical 
school, I did research at the Harvard School of Public Health under 
the tutelage of one of the most renowned epidemiologists in the world. 
Statistics play a crucial role in the field of epidemiology. He showed 
me how one can manipulate data to show anything. It was quite 
disconcerting.


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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Hence my earlier email.  It really is easy to spot when they are manipulated to 
show a certain result.


> On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Statistics can be manipulated to show anything. Prior to medical school, I 
> did research at the Harvard School of Public Health under the tutelage of one 
> of the most renowned epidemiologists in the world. Statistics play a crucial 
> role in the field of epidemiology. He showed me how one can manipulate data 
> to show anything. It was quite disconcerting.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It aint what was in your stat text.  It is hilarious, but dead serious.   It 
>> is one book I will never get rid of.
>> 
>>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>>> December 17, 2016 at 4:01 PM
>>> I am sure that it’s a good book. I studied Statistics and Economics at 
>>> Northwestern. I fully understand them.
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> Accident in Maryland, yo!
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lba_yQHzZCo&sns=em
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> Sent from an outdated phone
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Statistics can be manipulated to show anything. Prior to medical school, I did 
research at the Harvard School of Public Health under the tutelage of one of 
the most renowned epidemiologists in the world. Statistics play a crucial role 
in the field of epidemiology. He showed me how one can manipulate data to show 
anything. It was quite disconcerting.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It aint what was in your stat text.  It is hilarious, but dead serious.   It 
> is one book I will never get rid of.
> 
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>> December 17, 2016 at 4:01 PM
>> I am sure that it’s a good book. I studied Statistics and Economics at 
>> Northwestern. I fully understand them.
>> 
>> Jon
>> Accident in Maryland, yo!
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lba_yQHzZCo&sns=em
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> Sent from an outdated phone
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

And refreezing.  it’s the rate of melt and refreeze that we need to be 
concerned with.



> On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The ice caps have been melting since the last ice age.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The heat is melting the ice caps y'all.
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2016 3:17 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jon, I know you are a very intelligent guy.   Read this book.  It is a
>>> classic and was out of print for decades, but within in lies universal
>>> truth, presented in a humorous way.  Now it is back in print again.
>>> https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728
>>> You can read the first few pages online for free.
>>> 
>>> It is under $10.  Or you local welfare bookstore probably has a copy you
>>> can read for free. (pubic library)
>>> 
>>> I was fortunate enough to get a copy from one of my several Statistics
>>> profs when he retired.  He tried to teach Ed statistics to wannabe school
>>> sups.  The majority of them were dumber that a rock.
>>> 
>>> It is the ONLY book from college or grad school I continue to refer to!
>>> In fact, it was not even a required book, but Dr Neteusil in the Ed Stat
>>> class kept referring to it because ed statistics (and peer reviewed pubs)
>>> are rife with statistical errors, bias and misapplication.
>>> 
>>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
 December 17, 2016 at 1:19 PM
 https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/ <
 https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/>
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

The ice caps have been melting since the last ice age.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The heat is melting the ice caps y'all.
> 
> On Dec 17, 2016 3:17 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Jon, I know you are a very intelligent guy.   Read this book.  It is a
>> classic and was out of print for decades, but within in lies universal
>> truth, presented in a humorous way.  Now it is back in print again.
>> https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728
>> You can read the first few pages online for free.
>> 
>> It is under $10.  Or you local welfare bookstore probably has a copy you
>> can read for free. (pubic library)
>> 
>> I was fortunate enough to get a copy from one of my several Statistics
>> profs when he retired.  He tried to teach Ed statistics to wannabe school
>> sups.  The majority of them were dumber that a rock.
>> 
>> It is the ONLY book from college or grad school I continue to refer to!
>> In fact, it was not even a required book, but Dr Neteusil in the Ed Stat
>> class kept referring to it because ed statistics (and peer reviewed pubs)
>> are rife with statistical errors, bias and misapplication.
>> 
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>>> December 17, 2016 at 1:19 PM
>>> https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/ <
>>> https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

I will look it up.  I’m always up for a good read, and I am just about finished 
with this year’s pile of books.


> On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It aint what was in your stat text.  It is hilarious, but dead serious.   It 
> is one book I will never get rid of.
> 
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>> December 17, 2016 at 4:01 PM
>> I am sure that it’s a good book. I studied Statistics and Economics at 
>> Northwestern. I fully understand them.
>> 
>> Jon
>> Accident in Maryland, yo!
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lba_yQHzZCo&sns=em
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> Sent from an outdated phone
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

One of the good things about studying stats is that you know how they CAN be 
manipulated, and when to know if they are genuinely presented.


> On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It aint what was in your stat text.  It is hilarious, but dead serious.   It 
> is one book I will never get rid of.
> 
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>> December 17, 2016 at 4:01 PM
>> I am sure that it’s a good book. I studied Statistics and Economics at 
>> Northwestern. I fully understand them.
>> 
>> Jon
>> Accident in Maryland, yo!
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lba_yQHzZCo&sns=em
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> Sent from an outdated phone
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It aint what was in your stat text.  It is hilarious, but dead 
serious.   It is one book I will never get rid of.



Jon Agne via Mercedes 
December 17, 2016 at 4:01 PM
I am sure that it’s a good book. I studied Statistics and Economics at 
Northwestern. I fully understand them.


Jon
Accident in Maryland, yo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lba_yQHzZCo&sns=em


Rick
Sent from an outdated phone


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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I did.  Quite a spectacular crash.  I heard about the pileup on the 
radio today, but nothing about how spectacular it was.


That is but a drop in the bucket.  Albore burns up that much fuel just 
getting his fat keester off the ground.



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
December 17, 2016 at 3:01 PM
‎Obviously no one watched the video...

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Craig sez:

>Well, I did. It shows a mess on an icy I-95 with a fire and two people
>dead.

>But, your tying an icy I-95 to global warming brought that subject up for
>discussion.

Yeah. My bad. I should've made the subject Fire and Ice, or something else.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

I am sure that it’s a good book.  I studied Statistics and Economics at 
Northwestern.  I fully understand them.

Jon


> On Dec 17, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jon, I know you are a very intelligent guy.   Read this book.  It is a 
> classic and was out of print for decades, but within in lies universal truth, 
> presented in a humorous way.  Now it is back in print again.
> https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728You 
> can read the first few pages online for free.
> 
> It is under $10.  Or you local welfare bookstore probably has a copy you can 
> read for free. (pubic library)
> 
> I was fortunate enough to get a copy from one of my several Statistics profs 
> when he retired.  He tried to teach Ed statistics to wannabe school sups.  
> The majority of them were dumber that a rock.
> 
> It is the ONLY book from college or grad school I continue to refer to!  In 
> fact, it was not even a required book, but Dr Neteusil in the Ed Stat class 
> kept referring to it because ed statistics (and peer reviewed pubs) are rife 
> with statistical errors, bias and misapplication.
> 
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>> December 17, 2016 at 1:19 PM
>> https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/ 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 21:01:49 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> ‎Obviously no one watched the video...

Well, I did. It shows a mess on an icy I-95 with a fire and two people
dead.

But, your tying an icy I-95 to global warming brought that subject up for
discussion.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The heat is melting the ice caps y'all.

On Dec 17, 2016 3:17 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Jon, I know you are a very intelligent guy.   Read this book.  It is a
> classic and was out of print for decades, but within in lies universal
> truth, presented in a humorous way.  Now it is back in print again.
> https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728
> You can read the first few pages online for free.
>
> It is under $10.  Or you local welfare bookstore probably has a copy you
> can read for free. (pubic library)
>
> I was fortunate enough to get a copy from one of my several Statistics
> profs when he retired.  He tried to teach Ed statistics to wannabe school
> sups.  The majority of them were dumber that a rock.
>
> It is the ONLY book from college or grad school I continue to refer to!
> In fact, it was not even a required book, but Dr Neteusil in the Ed Stat
> class kept referring to it because ed statistics (and peer reviewed pubs)
> are rife with statistical errors, bias and misapplication.
>
> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>> December 17, 2016 at 1:19 PM
>> https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/ <
>> https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Obviously no one watched the video...

Rick 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

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Jon, I know you are a very intelligent guy.   Read this book.  It is a 
classic and was out of print for decades, but within in lies universal 
truth, presented in a humorous way.  Now it is back in print again.
https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728
You can read the first few pages online for free.


It is under $10.  Or you local welfare bookstore probably has a copy you 
can read for free. (pubic library)


I was fortunate enough to get a copy from one of my several Statistics 
profs when he retired.  He tried to teach Ed statistics to wannabe 
school sups.  The majority of them were dumber that a rock.


It is the ONLY book from college or grad school I continue to refer to!  
In fact, it was not even a required book, but Dr Neteusil in the Ed Stat 
class kept referring to it because ed statistics (and peer reviewed 
pubs) are rife with statistical errors, bias and misapplication.



Jon Agne via Mercedes 
December 17, 2016 at 1:19 PM
https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/ 




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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 14:19:20 -0500 Jon Agne via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/
>  > On Dec 17, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Albore must be flyin all over.   Record cold around here.  Record
> > cold all over the norther states.   Ice in Maryland!  Who'd thunk
> > it?  It is 20 years after albore told us we were all gonna melt.
> > WHERE IS THAT HEAT?
> > 
> >> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> >> December 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM
> >> Accident in Maryland, yo!
> >> 
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lba_yQHzZCo&sns=em

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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

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https://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/ 



> On Dec 17, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Albore must be flyin all over.   Record cold around here.  Record cold all 
> over the norther states.   Ice in Maryland!  Who'd thunk it?  It is 20 years 
> after albore told us we were all gonna melt.  WHERE IS THAT HEAT?
> 
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> December 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM
>> Accident in Maryland, yo!
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lba_yQHzZCo&sns=em
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> Sent from an outdated phone
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Re: [MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Albore must be flyin all over.   Record cold around here.  Record cold 
all over the norther states.   Ice in Maryland!  Who'd thunk it?  It is 
20 years after albore told us we were all gonna melt.  WHERE IS THAT HEAT?



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
December 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM
Accident in Maryland, yo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lba_yQHzZCo&sns=em


Rick
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[MBZ] Global Warming In MD, Yo

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Accident in Maryland, yo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lba_yQHzZCo&sns=em


Rick 
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