Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-08 Thread OK Don
The front fenders, radiator supporting frame, and hood are different on the 300D - I don't know whether they're the same as a 6 cyl. W114 or not. You don;'t have to push the firewall back, just place the engine 1/2" from it. I have a driveshaft from the W115 300D with a bad u-joint that you can hav

Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-08 Thread redghost
Guess I have to push the radiator out and cut the firewall back to fit the engine in. Gump is a 1972 clay Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:51 PM, OK Don wrote: I don't remember what ch

Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-07 Thread OK Don
I don't remember what chassis gump is, but the '75-'76 W115 300D had an extended nose compared to the '70 220D W115. The rear of the 617 was closer to the firewall, and the front was closer to the radiator. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > http://seattle.craigslist.org/**tac/c

Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
Intake, exhaust and throttle will interchange on all 4 cyl from 1959 to 1983 iron heads. On the 200D 2.4, I used the OM621 manifolds, exhaust and throttle linkage. (and oil bath air cleaner. I like the replacement cost of a clean filter) Also the engine back plate, rebalanced flywheel and a f

Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
The 123 radiator is prastic. If this guy in MD really got the 616-912 in a 115, then maybe it will work. I thought i had pulled the oil filters to check. maybe I never did because all the info said no dice. This guy claims to have run it dry, not to have stored it sans fluid for 30 years.

Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
ayup, the converse is true. But check carefully the differences between 616.916 and 616.912 The 76 OM617 would not fit in a 123 from everything I got my hands/eyes on. Biggest problem is the non-intercangeability of the canister oil filter VS the toploading 123 filter on the block. redgh

Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/2481215278.html Might be worth the effort to just swap over the engine to Gump. I would worry about the engine length. The 114 nose is longer (?) than the 115, all 6-cylinder gassers were 114's. Or so I recall. So would a 5zyl fit in a 4zyl hole, or would

Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-07 Thread Walt Zarnoch
617 engine mount location is 4" forward from the 616. On Jul 7, 2011 8:07 PM, "redghost" wrote: > This guy claims to have run it dry, not to have stored it sans fluid > for 30 years. The 240D guy also said his engine was in a 115, but > was for a 123. > > The situation I am looking at is to have a

Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-07 Thread redghost
This guy claims to have run it dry, not to have stored it sans fluid for 30 years. The 240D guy also said his engine was in a 115, but was for a 123. The situation I am looking at is to have a side by side frankenstein transferal of power-plant into Gump. Being able to swap over all the

Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/2481215278.html Might be worth the effort to just swap over the engine to Gump. Not sure how much hacking I would need to do to the drive shaft. Manual transmission in Gump. Then part out this heap to make back the purchase price

[MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-07 Thread redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/2481215278.html Might be worth the effort to just swap over the engine to Gump. Not sure how much hacking I would need to do to the drive shaft. Manual transmission in Gump. Then part out this heap to make back the purchase price clay Gump -