Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Later models had the 2.3l four banger, which was a really awful engine for a 
lot of reasons, mainly because they choked it with pollution control 
modifications. Remember, this was in the early part of the addition of 
pollution controls. 1974 was probably the peak of kludges, add-ons, timing 
tweaks, etc., until they could actually design and test systems for production 
vehicles.

-D

> On Sep 12, 2020, at 12:22 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Years ago when I was a kid, my parents had a 1972 Pinto wagon with the 2.0l 
> SOHC engine with an automatic transmission. S.L.O.W!!! I don’t think my Dad 
> ever messed with the carb though he was a pretty good mechanic. He bought it 
> with a crashed front end, installed the sheet metal and radiator off another 
> car, and with $350 spent on both cars, she was operational once again.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
> 2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 1600mi, Low Mileage Lutgard
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, no news 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Pintos were varied based on what mill they had. The early models, like 
>> mine, had a 2000cc OHC 4 cylinder that was also used in the Capris, and was 
>> very popular in that community. It was a wicked little engine that was 
>> constrained by the Holley 5200 Ford put on it. For whatever reason, no doubt 
>> pollution controls, which were very crude at that time, the linkage on the 
>> carb was set up so the second barrel would never open beyond about 25% or 
>> so. As soon as I figured this out I remedied the situation so I got both 
>> barrels, full operation. That made it a totally different car.
>> 
>> The story about dropping the head bolt driver came from when I had pulled 
>> the head and ported and polished the intake and head. I read a couple of 
>> books on how to do it, got the necessary die grinder bits and went at it 
>> after hours in the shop where I worked. This resulted in some additional 
>> performance, although I don't recall it being a great deal.
>> 
>> By today’s standards it would have been pretty inadequate, but at the time 
>> it was a good car. The fuel tank thing was just a design flaw that should 
>> have never happened. The remedy was nothing more than a plastic shield 
>> placed between the tank and the undercarriage of the car.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A former coworker told me a tale of his friend who had a Pinto that was 
>>> absolute garbage, could barely get out of its own way. So he decides to 
>>> take it to the junkyard and just for a laugh drives it the 5 or 6 miles 
>>> there in second gear with the engine just wailing and trailing a billowing 
>>> cloud of smoke. Apparently when he's nearly there he relents and shifts up 
>>> and is amazed to find the engine very peppy.I don't remember if the story 
>>> included the tale of the little old lady that owned it first and got it all 
>>> carboned up but the punchline was that the drive had burned all the carbon 
>>> out of the engine and the guy ended up keeping it several more years.
>>> My parents owned both a Pinto and a Vega at the same time. Some guy hit the 
>>> rock wall by my parent's house and sent a rock into the door of the Pinto 
>>> which "totaled it". I put that in quotes because the car was so terrible 
>>> I'd have called it totaled long before. "Check the gas and fill the oil" 
>>> comes to mind.
>>> Anyway with the insurance money my parents bought a Mercury Lynx wagon 
>>> which was a rebadged Escort. This was about the time I started to realize 
>>> (at 8 years old no less) that my father had no taste in cars. His '91 Ford 
>>> Tempo with a 3spd automatic was the closer.
>>> Other than his current Jeep Renegade my dad knows how to pick loser cars 
>>> like nobody else...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>  On Saturday, September 12, 2020, 11:37:56 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> My buddy's dad bought him something like a 75 or 76 Vega wagon to drive 
>>> in college after his Beetle kakked.  Might have been 74, too long ago to 
>>> remember. Red/black, 4spd cheap stripper, it actually looked pretty nice 
>>> though.  He thrashed that thing unmercifully and I think the engine blew 
>>> up or started blowing oil after like 20k miles which apparently was the 
>>> main issue with them unless they rusted out first.
>>> 
>>> My boss when I worked at the airport summers in college had a yellow 
>>> Pinto wagon or hatchback or whatever it was, black interior, 4spd.  He 
>>> let me drive it once to go on some errand or delivery or something.  It 
>>> was quite peppy and handled well, you could see out of the big windows 
>>> well too.  I kinda liked it, it was "sportier" than the big merkin iron 
>>> I was used to driving.
>>> 
>>> Another summer I was working for another place, a guy drives up on the 
>>> ramp (back when you could do that sort of thi

Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-12 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Years ago when I was a kid, my parents had a 1972 Pinto wagon with the 2.0l 
SOHC engine with an automatic transmission. S.L.O.W!!! I don’t think my Dad 
ever messed with the carb though he was a pretty good mechanic. He bought it 
with a crashed front end, installed the sheet metal and radiator off another 
car, and with $350 spent on both cars, she was operational once again.
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 1600mi, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, no news 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The Pintos were varied based on what mill they had. The early models, like 
> mine, had a 2000cc OHC 4 cylinder that was also used in the Capris, and was 
> very popular in that community. It was a wicked little engine that was 
> constrained by the Holley 5200 Ford put on it. For whatever reason, no doubt 
> pollution controls, which were very crude at that time, the linkage on the 
> carb was set up so the second barrel would never open beyond about 25% or so. 
> As soon as I figured this out I remedied the situation so I got both barrels, 
> full operation. That made it a totally different car.
> 
> The story about dropping the head bolt driver came from when I had pulled the 
> head and ported and polished the intake and head. I read a couple of books on 
> how to do it, got the necessary die grinder bits and went at it after hours 
> in the shop where I worked. This resulted in some additional performance, 
> although I don't recall it being a great deal.
> 
> By today’s standards it would have been pretty inadequate, but at the time it 
> was a good car. The fuel tank thing was just a design flaw that should have 
> never happened. The remedy was nothing more than a plastic shield placed 
> between the tank and the undercarriage of the car.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A former coworker told me a tale of his friend who had a Pinto that was 
>> absolute garbage, could barely get out of its own way. So he decides to take 
>> it to the junkyard and just for a laugh drives it the 5 or 6 miles there in 
>> second gear with the engine just wailing and trailing a billowing cloud of 
>> smoke. Apparently when he's nearly there he relents and shifts up and is 
>> amazed to find the engine very peppy.I don't remember if the story included 
>> the tale of the little old lady that owned it first and got it all carboned 
>> up but the punchline was that the drive had burned all the carbon out of the 
>> engine and the guy ended up keeping it several more years.
>> My parents owned both a Pinto and a Vega at the same time. Some guy hit the 
>> rock wall by my parent's house and sent a rock into the door of the Pinto 
>> which "totaled it". I put that in quotes because the car was so terrible I'd 
>> have called it totaled long before. "Check the gas and fill the oil" comes 
>> to mind.
>> Anyway with the insurance money my parents bought a Mercury Lynx wagon which 
>> was a rebadged Escort. This was about the time I started to realize (at 8 
>> years old no less) that my father had no taste in cars. His '91 Ford Tempo 
>> with a 3spd automatic was the closer.
>> Other than his current Jeep Renegade my dad knows how to pick loser cars 
>> like nobody else...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Saturday, September 12, 2020, 11:37:56 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>> 
>> My buddy's dad bought him something like a 75 or 76 Vega wagon to drive 
>> in college after his Beetle kakked.  Might have been 74, too long ago to 
>> remember. Red/black, 4spd cheap stripper, it actually looked pretty nice 
>> though.  He thrashed that thing unmercifully and I think the engine blew 
>> up or started blowing oil after like 20k miles which apparently was the 
>> main issue with them unless they rusted out first.
>> 
>> My boss when I worked at the airport summers in college had a yellow 
>> Pinto wagon or hatchback or whatever it was, black interior, 4spd.  He 
>> let me drive it once to go on some errand or delivery or something.  It 
>> was quite peppy and handled well, you could see out of the big windows 
>> well too.  I kinda liked it, it was "sportier" than the big merkin iron 
>> I was used to driving.
>> 
>> Another summer I was working for another place, a guy drives up on the 
>> ramp (back when you could do that sort of thing) early one Sunday 
>> morning in his MGB GT, BRG/black, and asks me to get his airplane out of 
>> the hangar.  OK fine.  So I get the plane out after some jockeying other 
>> planes around, he hands me the keys to the car and says, "Go drive it 
>> around if you want."  Oh yeah.  So I spent the next hour or so racing 
>> around the ramp and the old taxiway that went by our hangar.  Now THAT 
>> was sporty!  He comes back after awhile, I fueled the plane and put it 
>> away, give him the keys back.  H asked me how I enjoyed the car and we 
>> 

Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Pintos were varied based on what mill they had. The early models, like 
mine, had a 2000cc OHC 4 cylinder that was also used in the Capris, and was 
very popular in that community. It was a wicked little engine that was 
constrained by the Holley 5200 Ford put on it. For whatever reason, no doubt 
pollution controls, which were very crude at that time, the linkage on the carb 
was set up so the second barrel would never open beyond about 25% or so. As 
soon as I figured this out I remedied the situation so I got both barrels, full 
operation. That made it a totally different car.

The story about dropping the head bolt driver came from when I had pulled the 
head and ported and polished the intake and head. I read a couple of books on 
how to do it, got the necessary die grinder bits and went at it after hours in 
the shop where I worked. This resulted in some additional performance, although 
I don't recall it being a great deal.

By today’s standards it would have been pretty inadequate, but at the time it 
was a good car. The fuel tank thing was just a design flaw that should have 
never happened. The remedy was nothing more than a plastic shield placed 
between the tank and the undercarriage of the car.

-D

> On Sep 12, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A former coworker told me a tale of his friend who had a Pinto that was 
> absolute garbage, could barely get out of its own way. So he decides to take 
> it to the junkyard and just for a laugh drives it the 5 or 6 miles there in 
> second gear with the engine just wailing and trailing a billowing cloud of 
> smoke. Apparently when he's nearly there he relents and shifts up and is 
> amazed to find the engine very peppy.I don't remember if the story included 
> the tale of the little old lady that owned it first and got it all carboned 
> up but the punchline was that the drive had burned all the carbon out of the 
> engine and the guy ended up keeping it several more years.
> My parents owned both a Pinto and a Vega at the same time. Some guy hit the 
> rock wall by my parent's house and sent a rock into the door of the Pinto 
> which "totaled it". I put that in quotes because the car was so terrible I'd 
> have called it totaled long before. "Check the gas and fill the oil" comes to 
> mind.
> Anyway with the insurance money my parents bought a Mercury Lynx wagon which 
> was a rebadged Escort. This was about the time I started to realize (at 8 
> years old no less) that my father had no taste in cars. His '91 Ford Tempo 
> with a 3spd automatic was the closer.
> Other than his current Jeep Renegade my dad knows how to pick loser cars like 
> nobody else...
> -Curt
> 
>On Saturday, September 12, 2020, 11:37:56 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> My buddy's dad bought him something like a 75 or 76 Vega wagon to drive 
> in college after his Beetle kakked.  Might have been 74, too long ago to 
> remember. Red/black, 4spd cheap stripper, it actually looked pretty nice 
> though.  He thrashed that thing unmercifully and I think the engine blew 
> up or started blowing oil after like 20k miles which apparently was the 
> main issue with them unless they rusted out first.
> 
> My boss when I worked at the airport summers in college had a yellow 
> Pinto wagon or hatchback or whatever it was, black interior, 4spd.  He 
> let me drive it once to go on some errand or delivery or something.  It 
> was quite peppy and handled well, you could see out of the big windows 
> well too.  I kinda liked it, it was "sportier" than the big merkin iron 
> I was used to driving.
> 
> Another summer I was working for another place, a guy drives up on the 
> ramp (back when you could do that sort of thing) early one Sunday 
> morning in his MGB GT, BRG/black, and asks me to get his airplane out of 
> the hangar.  OK fine.  So I get the plane out after some jockeying other 
> planes around, he hands me the keys to the car and says, "Go drive it 
> around if you want."  Oh yeah.  So I spent the next hour or so racing 
> around the ramp and the old taxiway that went by our hangar.  Now THAT 
> was sporty!  He comes back after awhile, I fueled the plane and put it 
> away, give him the keys back.  H asked me how I enjoyed the car and we 
> chatted a bit about it, really nice guy.  I think he really got a charge 
> out of letting me drive his car.  I can't remember who he was, a rich 
> guy with toys I guess, just liked to have fun with them.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 9/11/20 9:37 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> The drive train on the Pinto was excellent.  Body was, well, 70's whacko 
>> styling and poorly made.  If the fashion of copying Japanese styling had 
>> been then instead of now, Ford might have made a decent car.
>> 
>> Ugly styling, with uncomfortable seating and deadly gas tank (saved money by 
>> leaving the originally designed shield out!) but mechanically quite good.
>> ___

Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 A former coworker told me a tale of his friend who had a Pinto that was 
absolute garbage, could barely get out of its own way. So he decides to take it 
to the junkyard and just for a laugh drives it the 5 or 6 miles there in second 
gear with the engine just wailing and trailing a billowing cloud of smoke. 
Apparently when he's nearly there he relents and shifts up and is amazed to 
find the engine very peppy.I don't remember if the story included the tale of 
the little old lady that owned it first and got it all carboned up but the 
punchline was that the drive had burned all the carbon out of the engine and 
the guy ended up keeping it several more years.
My parents owned both a Pinto and a Vega at the same time. Some guy hit the 
rock wall by my parent's house and sent a rock into the door of the Pinto which 
"totaled it". I put that in quotes because the car was so terrible I'd have 
called it totaled long before. "Check the gas and fill the oil" comes to mind.
Anyway with the insurance money my parents bought a Mercury Lynx wagon which 
was a rebadged Escort. This was about the time I started to realize (at 8 years 
old no less) that my father had no taste in cars. His '91 Ford Tempo with a 
3spd automatic was the closer.
Other than his current Jeep Renegade my dad knows how to pick loser cars like 
nobody else...
-Curt

On Saturday, September 12, 2020, 11:37:56 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 My buddy's dad bought him something like a 75 or 76 Vega wagon to drive 
in college after his Beetle kakked.  Might have been 74, too long ago to 
remember. Red/black, 4spd cheap stripper, it actually looked pretty nice 
though.  He thrashed that thing unmercifully and I think the engine blew 
up or started blowing oil after like 20k miles which apparently was the 
main issue with them unless they rusted out first.

My boss when I worked at the airport summers in college had a yellow 
Pinto wagon or hatchback or whatever it was, black interior, 4spd.  He 
let me drive it once to go on some errand or delivery or something.  It 
was quite peppy and handled well, you could see out of the big windows 
well too.  I kinda liked it, it was "sportier" than the big merkin iron 
I was used to driving.

Another summer I was working for another place, a guy drives up on the 
ramp (back when you could do that sort of thing) early one Sunday 
morning in his MGB GT, BRG/black, and asks me to get his airplane out of 
the hangar.  OK fine.  So I get the plane out after some jockeying other 
planes around, he hands me the keys to the car and says, "Go drive it 
around if you want."  Oh yeah.  So I spent the next hour or so racing 
around the ramp and the old taxiway that went by our hangar.  Now THAT 
was sporty!  He comes back after awhile, I fueled the plane and put it 
away, give him the keys back.  H asked me how I enjoyed the car and we 
chatted a bit about it, really nice guy.  I think he really got a charge 
out of letting me drive his car.  I can't remember who he was, a rich 
guy with toys I guess, just liked to have fun with them.

--FT

On 9/11/20 9:37 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> The drive train on the Pinto was excellent.  Body was, well, 70's whacko 
> styling and poorly made.  If the fashion of copying Japanese styling had been 
> then instead of now, Ford might have made a decent car.
>
> Ugly styling, with uncomfortable seating and deadly gas tank (saved money by 
> leaving the originally designed shield out!) but mechanically quite good.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-12 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
My buddy's dad bought him something like a 75 or 76 Vega wagon to drive 
in college after his Beetle kakked.  Might have been 74, too long ago to 
remember. Red/black, 4spd cheap stripper, it actually looked pretty nice 
though.  He thrashed that thing unmercifully and I think the engine blew 
up or started blowing oil after like 20k miles which apparently was the 
main issue with them unless they rusted out first.


My boss when I worked at the airport summers in college had a yellow 
Pinto wagon or hatchback or whatever it was, black interior, 4spd.  He 
let me drive it once to go on some errand or delivery or something.  It 
was quite peppy and handled well, you could see out of the big windows 
well too.  I kinda liked it, it was "sportier" than the big merkin iron 
I was used to driving.


Another summer I was working for another place, a guy drives up on the 
ramp (back when you could do that sort of thing) early one Sunday 
morning in his MGB GT, BRG/black, and asks me to get his airplane out of 
the hangar.  OK fine.  So I get the plane out after some jockeying other 
planes around, he hands me the keys to the car and says, "Go drive it 
around if you want."  Oh yeah.  So I spent the next hour or so racing 
around the ramp and the old taxiway that went by our hangar.  Now THAT 
was sporty!  He comes back after awhile, I fueled the plane and put it 
away, give him the keys back.  H asked me how I enjoyed the car and we 
chatted a bit about it, really nice guy.  I think he really got a charge 
out of letting me drive his car.  I can't remember who he was, a rich 
guy with toys I guess, just liked to have fun with them.


--FT

On 9/11/20 9:37 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

The drive train on the Pinto was excellent.   Body was, well, 70's whacko 
styling and poorly made.  If the fashion of copying Japanese styling had been 
then instead of now, Ford might have made a decent car.

Ugly styling, with uncomfortable seating and deadly gas tank (saved money by 
leaving the originally designed shield out!) but mechanically quite good.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-11 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The drive train on the Pinto was excellent.   Body was, well, 70's whacko 
styling and poorly made.  If the fashion of copying Japanese styling had been 
then instead of now, Ford might have made a decent car.

Ugly styling, with uncomfortable seating and deadly gas tank (saved money by 
leaving the originally designed shield out!) but mechanically quite good.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Dad, having recently left GM in late 1969, no longer had access to program cars 
for execs that my long suffering Mom got. Things like Opel Kadettes and 
Vauxhall wagons. Dad finally had to break down and buy Mom a car. It was a 
1970-1/2 Pinto in bright orange (Mom like bright colors) two door fastback with 
the large rear window. Later in production they shortened the rear window on 
the hatch to about 1/2 of the area to make it more “trunk-like".

It was bare bones with a heater, AM radio and a four speed stick. Mom thrashed 
that car, like every car she drove. In 1976, my brother got it. He didn’t have 
it long, and while doing so drove it into a 12” high concrete curb in downtown 
Indianapolis one night after a long evening of imbibing. He passed it to me 
shortly after, declaring it to be in “fine” shape.

I started driving it in late 1978, if I recall correctly. That’s when I 
discovered that the frame was tweaked courtesy of my brother’s shenanigans, 
verified by it eating a set of front tires in about 10k miles and a close look 
on a frame rack at our local bodyshop, Church Brothers. Brother ponied up the 
$$ to straighten it out, and after that it was fine.

I probably drove it until 1980 or so when I sold it in the “Trader”, a local 
weekly classified ad paper.

Much of the time I owned it I was a starving student (college, then tech 
school) so it served me well. It was a reliable car and really easy to work on. 
I owned it when the gas tank recall was going on, and Ford jerked me around on 
that so much that they ended up paying my wages for a day and giving me a 
loaner (unheard of at the time) so they could have the car to address the 
recall.

-D



> On Sep 11, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan, did that Pinto live up to your expectations?
> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:48 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> “MR Magnet” as it’s known gets a special place in the tool box drawer
>>> and has saved my butt on more than one occasion. One of the best tools
>>> I’ve ever owned.
>> 
>> Also useful when working inside a door for retrieving the inevitable
>> dropped fasteners.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Dan, did that Pinto live up to your expectations?

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:48 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > “MR Magnet” as it’s known gets a special place in the tool box drawer
> > and has saved my butt on more than one occasion. One of the best tools
> > I’ve ever owned.
>
> Also useful when working inside a door for retrieving the inevitable
> dropped fasteners.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> “MR Magnet” as it’s known gets a special place in the tool box drawer
> and has saved my butt on more than one occasion. One of the best tools
> I’ve ever owned.

Also useful when working inside a door for retrieving the inevitable
dropped fasteners.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I did this with one of those big hardened star drivers when torquing the head 
bolts on the 2000cc four cylinder in my 1970 Pinto. Was reaching around trying 
to get into one of the head bolts near the rear, thought it was seated, let go 
and “tink-tink-tink” as it fell down the oil drain hole at the back of the head.

Talk about panic!

Went to Sears (this was in 1978) and got a magnet on telescoping handle. Fished 
that bad boy out of the hole, thank goodness.

“MR Magnet” as it’s known gets a special place in the tool box drawer and has 
saved my butt on more than one occasion. One of the best tools I’ve ever owned.

-D

> On Sep 11, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guy I used to know had a piston paperweight, it had multiple deep imprints
> of a screw or nut or something.  The damage was found when the engine (some
> American muscle car) was rebuilt for other reasons, he thought it was
> pretty funny how such damage was unknown and not suspected until they took
> it apart.
> 
> Once I dropped a nut down the oil drain return (from the head into the oil
> pan) on a '90 Honda Accord.  I panicked, felt sick, was just beating myself
> up.  Talked to a mechanic about how to pull the oil pan, he laughed, then
> he loaned me a magnetic retrieval tool, I stuck that down the oil drain and
> 'click' the nut came right back out.  Whew!  Turns out it only made it a
> few inches down the drain.  Since then I'm very careful to plug up such
> holes with rags or paper towels.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:17 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> My Falcon once sucked a screw into the carburetor, made quite a racket
>> once it
>> was embedded in a piston top, whacking merrily against the head.
>> 
>> 20 minutes later the head was off and the screw removed, another 20 minutes
>> to put the head back on, re-using the gasket, and we were on the road
>> again.
>> Pre-emissions carbureted inline 6 pushrod engine, _so_ easy to work on...
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Guy I used to know had a piston paperweight, it had multiple deep imprints
of a screw or nut or something.  The damage was found when the engine (some
American muscle car) was rebuilt for other reasons, he thought it was
pretty funny how such damage was unknown and not suspected until they took
it apart.

Once I dropped a nut down the oil drain return (from the head into the oil
pan) on a '90 Honda Accord.  I panicked, felt sick, was just beating myself
up.  Talked to a mechanic about how to pull the oil pan, he laughed, then
he loaned me a magnetic retrieval tool, I stuck that down the oil drain and
'click' the nut came right back out.  Whew!  Turns out it only made it a
few inches down the drain.  Since then I'm very careful to plug up such
holes with rags or paper towels.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:17 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My Falcon once sucked a screw into the carburetor, made quite a racket
> once it
> was embedded in a piston top, whacking merrily against the head.
>
> 20 minutes later the head was off and the screw removed, another 20 minutes
> to put the head back on, re-using the gasket, and we were on the road
> again.
> Pre-emissions carbureted inline 6 pushrod engine, _so_ easy to work on...
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
My Falcon once sucked a screw into the carburetor, made quite a racket once it
was embedded in a piston top, whacking merrily against the head.

20 minutes later the head was off and the screw removed, another 20 minutes
to put the head back on, re-using the gasket, and we were on the road again.
Pre-emissions carbureted inline 6 pushrod engine, _so_ easy to work on...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

oops.  but still at $7k

--FT

On 9/11/20 9:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

You trusted us!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-porsche-914-2-0-29/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-09-11

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[MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

2020-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You trusted us!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-porsche-914-2-0-29/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-09-11

-D
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