Re: [MBZ] Hey, Andrew!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I saw that.  A real shame - their design was really cool.  I also had a
stake in Lordstown Motors and they went bankrupt as well.

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> I see your favorite car’s company is filing for bankruptcy.
>
> Back to scissors, I guess?
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I see your favorite car’s company is filing for bankruptcy.

Back to scissors, I guess?

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Thanks. I posted it.

Rick

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Rick Ellinger RC Imports.
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> Who's your indy mechanic in Maryland?
>
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/5229279433805420
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Rick Ellinger RC Imports.
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Who's your indy mechanic in Maryland?

https://m.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/5229279433805420


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[MBZ] Hey Andrew go buy this for Dan

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Work on him for $1200

2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 AWD Wagon 4D
$1,500


Needs Front Brakes & Back Struts!! (which are accumulators most likely, 
$150)

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew blue interior bits

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Thanks.  As luck would have it, his car has crank windows.  I need a blue
bezel for a rear PW switch...

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:29 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>
>   ‎Mike Abbonizio
>   <
> https://www.facebook.com/mabbonizio?__tn__=%2CdC-R-R&eid=ARBX51OQnIA7lW9ruBiZBMmPAi2cQvlP2fJckQnKT3iW-J6kDm3pf3rhIl9d6oGbRTpmEFe1mOEdTlHg&hc_ref=ARTrxebZfBKt7VIvld4wblEIaJa8HptxqDf6Rv5eosLn5fHi4w53XrRkB0GT48Goi4k&fref=nf
> >‎/_to_/Mercedes
>   W123 (North America)
>   
>
> August 19 at 8:32 PM
> ·
>
> parting this 83 300d and sending it to the junk yard either this weekend
> or the next. anyone want any parts? would be a shame to send these nice
> cloth blue door cards to the junk yard ;(
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/?ref=nf_target&fref=nf
>
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>
> On 8/21/19 1:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > I lost the link - please send it to me, Rich.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >
> >> The guy is probably a moron, at least that would be a good assumption
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >> sedan, I saw a pic of a door panel, I presume there is other stuff.
> Jump
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew blue interior bits

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August 19 at 8:32 PM 
·


parting this 83 300d and sending it to the junk yard either this weekend 
or the next. anyone want any parts? would be a shame to send these nice 
cloth blue door cards to the junk yard ;(




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I lost the link - please send it to me, Rich.

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The guy is probably a moron, at least that would be a good assumption

Sent from my iPhone


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some guy on the 123 fakebook group had some blue interior bits for a

sedan, I saw a pic of a door panel, I presume there is other stuff.  Jump
on the fakebook page and check it out

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew blue interior bits

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I lost the link - please send it to me, Rich.

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>
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> >
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The guy is probably a moron, at least that would be a good assumption 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> some guy on the 123 fakebook group had some blue interior bits for a sedan, I 
> saw a pic of a door panel, I presume there is other stuff.  Jump on the 
> fakebook page and check it out
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some guy on the 123 fakebook group had some blue interior bits for a 
sedan, I saw a pic of a door panel, I presume there is other stuff.  
Jump on the fakebook page and check it out


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Re: [MBZ] Hey, Andrew!

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I don't feel quite so bad now.  $8 K is over my limit.

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> Looks like your T-Bird was a bargain.  It went for a little over $8k.
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Looks like your T-Bird was a bargain.  It went for a little over $8k.  That 
seems like a pretty good deal.

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

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Your SOH sets the bar VERY low.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:33 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Hahahhaa... well played [note to self... swallow coffee before opening
> FT's emails.]
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Barak Obama
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/21/18 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >>   It might be an old work colleague whose name I have long since
> >> forgotten...
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
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> >> wrote:
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> >> Interesting.  I saw that someone visited my 400E blog from the
> Department
> >>> of the Interior’s office in Helena or Great Falls, so I figured it
> might
> >>> be
> >>> you...
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> 
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> >>>
>  Moi?  Still in MD.
> 
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Hahahhaa... well played [note to self... swallow coffee before opening
FT's emails.]

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Barak Obama
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 3/21/18 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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>>   It might be an old work colleague whose name I have long since
>> forgotten...
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting.  I saw that someone visited my 400E blog from the Department
>>> of the Interior’s office in Helena or Great Falls, so I figured it might
>>> be
>>> you...
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Moi?  Still in MD.

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 What are you doing in Montana?  Lousy time of the year to be visiting,
> unless you’re looking to ski…
>
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Barak Obama

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On 3/21/18 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

  It might be an old work colleague whose name I have long since forgotten...

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
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Interesting.  I saw that someone visited my 400E blog from the Department
of the Interior’s office in Helena or Great Falls, so I figured it might be
you...

-D


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Moi?  Still in MD.

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What are you doing in Montana?  Lousy time of the year to be visiting,
unless you’re looking to ski…

-D


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 It might be an old work colleague whose name I have long since forgotten...

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> Interesting.  I saw that someone visited my 400E blog from the Department
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> you...
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 21, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> > Moi?  Still in MD.
> >
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Interesting.  I saw that someone visited my 400E blog from the Department of 
the Interior’s office in Helena or Great Falls, so I figured it might be you...

-D

> On Mar 21, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Moi?  Still in MD.

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> What are you doing in Montana?  Lousy time of the year to be visiting,
> unless you’re looking to ski…
>
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What are you doing in Montana?  Lousy time of the year to be visiting, unless 
you’re looking to ski…

-D


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No need to apologize.  It was quite entertaining seeing all his buried
not-quite-treasure in the cavernous condo garage.  Made me thankful I am
more flipper than a hoarder.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> That was a real exercise in futility, and for that I apologize.  He's not
> about to turn loose of anything, and the deeper we got into that one the
> more I knew it.
>
> Truly a Mercedes hoarder if there ever was one.
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 5, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I was worried.  The last effort was quite the scavenger hunt.
> Alex has a beautiful maroon 300SEL 4.5 sedan that deserves to be liberated
> from the dungeon he keeps it in but he can't bear letting anything go..
> >
> >> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> No need to worry.  It’s sold.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Sep 4, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > With a car like that you don't need a boat.  I agree with OK Don -
> the styling exemplifies the excesses of US cars of the late 70s.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >> > If I didn’t have a hurricane staring down my neck I would be calling
> on this.  I may call them in the morning and see if it’s still for sale.
> >> >
> >> > -D
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That was a real exercise in futility, and for that I apologize.  He's not about 
to turn loose of anything, and the deeper we got into that one the more I knew 
it.

Truly a Mercedes hoarder if there ever was one.

-D

> On Sep 5, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I was worried.  The last effort was quite the scavenger hunt.  Alex has 
> a beautiful maroon 300SEL 4.5 sedan that deserves to be liberated from the 
> dungeon he keeps it in but he can't bear letting anything go..
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> No need to worry.  It’s sold.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Sep 4, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > With a car like that you don't need a boat.  I agree with OK Don - the 
>> > styling exemplifies the excesses of US cars of the late 70s.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> > If I didn’t have a hurricane staring down my neck I would be calling on 
>> > this.  I may call them in the morning and see if it’s still for sale.
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, I was worried.  The last effort was quite the scavenger hunt.  Alex
has a beautiful maroon 300SEL 4.5 sedan that deserves to be liberated from
the dungeon he keeps it in but he can't bear letting anything go..

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> No need to worry.  It’s sold.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Sep 4, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > With a car like that you don't need a boat.  I agree with OK Don - the
> styling exemplifies the excesses of US cars of the late 70s.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > If I didn’t have a hurricane staring down my neck I would be calling on
> this.  I may call them in the morning and see if it’s still for sale.
> >
> > -D
> >
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No need to worry.  It’s sold.

-D


> On Sep 4, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> With a car like that you don't need a boat.  I agree with OK Don - the 
> styling exemplifies the excesses of US cars of the late 70s.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> If I didn’t have a hurricane staring down my neck I would be calling on this. 
>  I may call them in the morning and see if it’s still for sale.
> 
> -D
> 

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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

With a car like that you don't need a boat.  I agree with OK Don - the
styling exemplifies the excesses of US cars of the late 70s.

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If I didn’t have a hurricane staring down my neck I would be calling on
> this.  I may call them in the morning and see if it’s still for sale.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Sep 4, 2017, at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Poos must really be serious.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 4, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> What about Madison Heights?  That’s where the car is, I believe.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Not far.
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 4, 2017 12:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> > On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > How far are you from Arlington?
> >
> > https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-
>  silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
> >
> > This is really nice.  I like.
> >
> > -D
> >>
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If I didn’t have a hurricane staring down my neck I would be calling on this.  
I may call them in the morning and see if it’s still for sale.

-D


> On Sep 4, 2017, at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Poos must really be serious.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What about Madison Heights?  That’s where the car is, I believe.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not far.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2017 12:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> How far are you from Arlington?
> 
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-
 silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
> 
> This is really nice.  I like.
> 
> -D
>> 
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Poos must really be serious.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What about Madison Heights?  That’s where the car is, I believe.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Not far.
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2017 12:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
 On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 How far are you from Arlington?
 
 https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-
>>> silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
 
 This is really nice.  I like.
 
 -D
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What about Madison Heights?  That’s where the car is, I believe.

-D


> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not far.
> 
> On Sep 4, 2017 12:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How far are you from Arlington?
>>> 
>>> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-
>> silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
>>> 
>>> This is really nice.  I like.
>>> 
>>> -D


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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Ditto Wilton. I like the 211  4matic in snow in my E320 but I really miss
my 90 300D 2.5t.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sep 4, 2017 3:51 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes"  wrote:

> 211 doesn't seem so bad, either, so far, but I still liked my 30-year-old
> 124 better.
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!
>
>
> Oh boy, now Poos is on a 210 kick, I guess he fell in love. They are not
>> as bad as everyone says.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> How far are you from Arlington?
>>>
>>> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-silver-
>>> mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
>>>
>>> This is really nice.  I like.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
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[WILTON via Mercedes]

211 doesn't seem so bad, either, so far, but I still liked my 30-year-old 
124 better.


Wilt

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From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 

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Oh boy, now Poos is on a 210 kick, I guess he fell in love. They are not 
as bad as everyone says.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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How far are you from Arlington?

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html

This is really nice.  I like.

-D



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[OK Don via Mercedes]

But they are TOO ugly!

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Oh boy, now Poos is on a 210 kick, I guess he fell in love. They are not
> as bad as everyone says.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > How far are you from Arlington?
> >
> > https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-
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> >
> > This is really nice.  I like.
> >
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe you should keep it and find something else for the kid.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I am seriously looking for one as a daily driver. I love the one I bought for 
> the youngest son.  A wagon would be icing on the cake.
> 
> The guy in Amarillo with the 2002 4Matic offered it to me for $2700 last 
> night. (Kaleb has seen pictures of this car, it's nice, too.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh boy, now Poos is on a 210 kick, I guess he fell in love. They are not as 
>> bad as everyone says. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How far are you from Arlington?
>>> 
>>> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
>>> 
>>> This is really nice.  I like.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

My niece lives in Arlington 

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> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh boy, now Poos is on a 210 kick, I guess he fell in love. They are not as 
> bad as everyone says. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How far are you from Arlington?
>> 
>> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
>> 
>> This is really nice.  I like.
>> 
>> -D
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I am seriously looking for one as a daily driver. I love the one I bought for 
the youngest son.  A wagon would be icing on the cake.

The guy in Amarillo with the 2002 4Matic offered it to me for $2700 last night. 
(Kaleb has seen pictures of this car, it's nice, too.

-D


> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Oh boy, now Poos is on a 210 kick, I guess he fell in love. They are not as 
> bad as everyone says. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How far are you from Arlington?
>> 
>> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
>> 
>> This is really nice.  I like.
>> 
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That is a damned nice wagon. I am sorely tempted.

-D

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Not far.
> 
> On Sep 4, 2017 12:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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>> Oh boy, now Poos is on a 210 kick, I guess he fell in love. They are not
>> as bad as everyone says.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How far are you from Arlington?
>>> 
>>> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-
>> silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
>>> 
>>> This is really nice.  I like.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not far.

On Sep 4, 2017 12:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oh boy, now Poos is on a 210 kick, I guess he fell in love. They are not
> as bad as everyone says.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > How far are you from Arlington?
> >
> > https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-
> silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
> >
> > This is really nice.  I like.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh boy, now Poos is on a 210 kick, I guess he fell in love. They are not as bad 
as everyone says. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How far are you from Arlington?
> 
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html
> 
> This is really nice.  I like.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] Hey Andrew!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

How far are you from Arlington?

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/2003-silver-mercedes-benz-320/6290902347.html

This is really nice.  I like.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s all in the presentation, man.

-D


> On May 4, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Amazing.  Just shows what good marketing can do.
> 
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> dude in a dapper suit rolling up in an Aston with a hot babe in the right
>>> seat
>> 
>> 
>> Dude, _left_ seat!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

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Amazing.  Just shows what good marketing can do.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> >
> > dude in a dapper suit rolling up in an Aston with a hot babe in the right
> > seat
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> Dude, _left_ seat!
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

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>
> dude in a dapper suit rolling up in an Aston with a hot babe in the right
> seat


Dude, _left_ seat!

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Works for me.

-D

> On May 4, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "$5,159 bid placed by Asianbond"
> 
> I have this vision of some chinee dude in a dapper suit rolling up in an 
> Aston with a hot babe in the right seat and pulling a stack of bills that he 
> just won at the casino  out of his jacket pocket
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/4/17 7:06 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> These are valid questions, for sure.  I assume you can go to the next bidder 
>> in line.
>> 
>> I have to believe that BAT would ban anyone who knowingly backs out of a 
>> transaction, but I don't know that for a fact. They make it very clear in 
>> their terms that their involvement is strictly the providing of an auction 
>> venue and the process itself, and that they have nothing to do with the 
>> actual transaction.
>> 
>> I also suspect that there would be some form of public shaming if such an 
>> issue came up.  It's a pretty tight community, and there are a lot of users 
>> whose handles I recognize as regulars. I'm not sure how the word would get 
>> around, but I suspect it would somehow.
>> 
>> The current high bidder on my car is a regular who I recognize.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2017, at 6:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you have the option of going to the next highest bidder if the winner
>>> fails to hold up their end of the contract?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks for those positive vibes, Max!
 
 BAT has no relationship with buyer or seller as far as the transaction.
 It's strictly between the two parties.
 
 -D
 
> On May 4, 2017, at 5:32 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Awesome, Dan!  Let's hope the buyer pays up.  What is BaT's policy for a
 non-payer?
> --
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> 
>> On May 4, 2017 5:16:57 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> You're already off the mark in this auction with four days to go:
>> 
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-
 300d-turbo/#comment-1512450
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"$5,159 bid placed by Asianbond"

I have this vision of some chinee dude in a dapper suit rolling up in an 
Aston with a hot babe in the right seat and pulling a stack of bills 
that he just won at the casino  out of his jacket pocket


--FT


On 5/4/17 7:06 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

These are valid questions, for sure.  I assume you can go to the next bidder in 
line.

I have to believe that BAT would ban anyone who knowingly backs out of a 
transaction, but I don't know that for a fact. They make it very clear in their 
terms that their involvement is strictly the providing of an auction venue and 
the process itself, and that they have nothing to do with the actual 
transaction.

I also suspect that there would be some form of public shaming if such an issue 
came up.  It's a pretty tight community, and there are a lot of users whose 
handles I recognize as regulars. I'm not sure how the word would get around, 
but I suspect it would somehow.

The current high bidder on my car is a regular who I recognize.

-D


On May 4, 2017, at 6:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

Do you have the option of going to the next highest bidder if the winner
fails to hold up their end of the contract?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Thanks for those positive vibes, Max!

BAT has no relationship with buyer or seller as far as the transaction.
It's strictly between the two parties.

-D


On May 4, 2017, at 5:32 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Awesome, Dan!  Let's hope the buyer pays up.  What is BaT's policy for a

non-payer?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


On May 4, 2017 5:16:57 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes <

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You're already off the mark in this auction with four days to go:

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-

300d-turbo/#comment-1512450

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Or you can buy a nice condition one like this one for $3k.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2017, at 6:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Would you rather spend $500 on 10 "projects" that slowly degrade on the
> back 40 until you have time for them, or $5000 once on a great condition
> car that you can drive and enjoy practically forever (if you keep it up)?
> 
> How many project cars do you have?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> People are stupid with crack
>> 
>> 
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[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Ouch!

As I have stated previously, I learned my lesson years ago when I bought a 1971 
VW Beetle convertible for $400 that became a "finish it or lose your ass" 
project that cost me easily $10k.  I figured it would cost me half that, which 
I was prepared for. What I wasn't prepared for were the subcontracted costs 
that I couldn't stop once the process began that went out of control.

At that time I was at a point of no return. To stop would have meant trying to 
sell a partially restored car, a near impossibility with a huge loss.  I had no 
choice but to continue.  Understand that this predated the Internet as we know 
it today - this was the late 1980s, early 90s. No eBay or BAT to sell the car 
to a highly focused group of enthusiasts.

Ever since that occurred I have always bought the very best example of the car 
I could afford. It's far, far cheaper in the long run, believe me.

As for Kaleb's back forty, I just think he's a hoarder and his item of choice 
is old Mercedes.. 

-D

> On May 4, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Would you rather spend $500 on 10 "projects" that slowly degrade on the
> back 40 until you have time for them, or $5000 once on a great condition
> car that you can drive and enjoy practically forever (if you keep it up)?
> 
> How many project cars do you have?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> People are stupid with crack
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Would you rather spend $500 on 10 "projects" that slowly degrade on the
back 40 until you have time for them, or $5000 once on a great condition
car that you can drive and enjoy practically forever (if you keep it up)?

How many project cars do you have?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> People are stupid with crack
>
>
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People are stupid with crack

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> You're already off the mark in this auction with four days to go:
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/#comment-1512450
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

These are valid questions, for sure.  I assume you can go to the next bidder in 
line.

I have to believe that BAT would ban anyone who knowingly backs out of a 
transaction, but I don't know that for a fact. They make it very clear in their 
terms that their involvement is strictly the providing of an auction venue and 
the process itself, and that they have nothing to do with the actual 
transaction.

I also suspect that there would be some form of public shaming if such an issue 
came up.  It's a pretty tight community, and there are a lot of users whose 
handles I recognize as regulars. I'm not sure how the word would get around, 
but I suspect it would somehow.

The current high bidder on my car is a regular who I recognize.

-D 

> On May 4, 2017, at 6:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you have the option of going to the next highest bidder if the winner
> fails to hold up their end of the contract?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for those positive vibes, Max!
>> 
>> BAT has no relationship with buyer or seller as far as the transaction.
>> It's strictly between the two parties.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2017, at 5:32 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Awesome, Dan!  Let's hope the buyer pays up.  What is BaT's policy for a
>> non-payer?
>>> --
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
>>> 
 On May 4, 2017 5:16:57 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 You're already off the mark in this auction with four days to go:
 
 http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-
>> 300d-turbo/#comment-1512450
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Do you have the option of going to the next highest bidder if the winner
fails to hold up their end of the contract?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks for those positive vibes, Max!
>
> BAT has no relationship with buyer or seller as far as the transaction.
> It's strictly between the two parties.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 4, 2017, at 5:32 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Awesome, Dan!  Let's hope the buyer pays up.  What is BaT's policy for a
> non-payer?
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> >> On May 4, 2017 5:16:57 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> You're already off the mark in this auction with four days to go:
> >>
> >> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-
> 300d-turbo/#comment-1512450
> >>
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks for those positive vibes, Max!

BAT has no relationship with buyer or seller as far as the transaction. It's 
strictly between the two parties.

-D

> On May 4, 2017, at 5:32 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Awesome, Dan!  Let's hope the buyer pays up.  What is BaT's policy for a 
> non-payer?
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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> 
>> On May 4, 2017 5:16:57 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> You're already off the mark in this auction with four days to go:
>> 
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/#comment-1512450
>> 
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Awesome, Dan!  Let's hope the buyer pays up.  What is BaT's policy for a 
non-payer?
-- 
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>
>http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/#comment-1512450
>
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You're already off the mark in this auction with four days to go:

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/#comment-1512450

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[clay via Mercedes]

2014 will be coming off lease next.  The terms are usually 36 month now.  
Helped my sister get a replacement for her 98 Volvo.  Newest returns were the 
2013 being offered CPO.From what we saw, I am not sure what makes it CPO v. 
standard returns.  Must be a cumulative brownie point total because some of the 
cars had not seen the detail shop before hitting the floor, others were missing 
parts.  Even the pricing was all over the place.  No matter the condition, they 
all hung around NADA and no way to negotiate a better price.  I tried to walk 
out, but sister was too desperate.

clay



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> 2014 Spark had the old technology A123 battery. 
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>> Spark.  Not yet.  Might be awhile.
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>>> Have you ordered the Prius yet?
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's a dream but I enjoy not being in debt quite so much

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> I'm now waiting for the 2015s to start coming off lease late in the year.
> 2014 Spark had the old technology A123 battery.
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> > On January 3, 2017 at 4:51 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I'm now waiting for the 2015s to start coming off lease late in the year.
2014 Spark had the old technology A123 battery. 
Mitch. 

> On January 3, 2017 at 4:51 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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> Spark.  Not yet.  Might be awhile.
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‎> Have you ordered the Prius yet?
 
With the average income where he's at, it'll be a Tesla.

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Spark.  Not yet.  Might be awhile.

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Have you ordered the Prius yet?

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!

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> Did you get the offlist messages I sent you about the wheels? 
> Re-sent yesterday again since I never got any response.   Are you mad 
> at me?

He may be blocking your emails and thus won't see them.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[LWB250]

We are a Generac service dealer.  You can buy them online for less than we sell 
them for, but forget about any kind of support if you do that.

We can usually install one of these in a day or less.  The documentation is 
good, so someone with a decent DIY background can do it without too much 
effort.  The only sketchy part is the (re)wiring that has to be done to your 
distribution system, although in many cases it's not that big of a deal.

Dan

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Scott Ritchey  wrote:

> From: Scott Ritchey 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:37 PM


> Generac (aka Guardian, Centurion) makes a variety of
> permanent installed
> automatic standby generator systems (complete kit) that
> require no human
> intervention other than changing the oil and filters and
> checking the
> battery; but they are in the $2-5K range.  Northern
> Tool (and certainly
> others) sells portable generators that run on propane and
> are lower cost
> (like $400 for 3KW) but you need to manually start the
> generator and
> switchover to generator power. A final comment: don't get a
> generator bigger
> than you need; it just burns more fuel.



  


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Scott Ritchey]

Let me elaborate on my fuel concern.  You will probably burn 1-3 gal per
hour (of gas, diesel, or LP) so you'll need hundreds of gallons on hand at
the beginning of the emergency because you probably won't be able to get
fuel once the emergency is underway. Lugging hundreds of gallons in jerry
cans is the pits.  Having hundreds of gallons of gasoline go stale is the
pits (although maybe you can rotate stock by burning it in your cars).  The
diesel problem is similar but it's easier (in some places) to get hundreds
of gallons of home heating oil delivered to your house (use a GOOD filter in
that case) but heating oil is illegal to burn in your cars.  But you can
store LP indefinitely, especially if you use it for other things (fireplace,
stove, BBQ grill) and gas companies deliver to your tank (and you need a
tank too big to carry for a generator). Finally, NG is simplicity itself and
you don't even need to pay for it until you use it.  With LP or NG, you can
use a BBQ hookup to run a small generator.

Generac (aka Guardian, Centurion) makes a variety of permanent installed
automatic standby generator systems (complete kit) that require no human
intervention other than changing the oil and filters and checking the
battery; but they are in the $2-5K range.  Northern Tool (and certainly
others) sells portable generators that run on propane and are lower cost
(like $400 for 3KW) but you need to manually start the generator and
switchover to generator power. A final comment: don't get a generator bigger
than you need; it just burns more fuel.

IMO all of these generators are too noisy to consider running inside ...
even if you solve the exhaust issue.

On a related note, ventless gas logs (LP or NG) put out a LOT of heat and
are easy to install in a wood-burning fireplace (you run with damper
closed). The advantage is you don't need to stockpile wood and you don't
have all the debris from hauling wood through the house.  But these ventless
setups do produce some soot so I wouldn't recommend ventless for everyday
use.  In my old house I have a direct vent fireplace in the family room for
everyday use and ventless gas logs in the dining room (in an old woodburning
fireplace) in case I really need more heat.  The direct vent looks like a
real wood fire but the ventless looks more like a gas stove (blue flame) so
it's more for function than looks.

Maybe this helps.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 01:41
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

Natural gas (or propane) is the way to go IMO.  The fuel doesn't go bad and
the carb doesn't gum up.  And with Natural gas there's no storage problem (I
have a 500 gal underground propane tank).  The downside is you need a more
costly generator that's set up for LP on NG.  My neighbor in FL had a 40KW
NG generator that fed the neighborhood after several hurricanes.

Diesel may be more efficient but there are the fuel issues (transportation,
storage, shelf life).  

Scott

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 15:37
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
our utility natural gas line?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
> could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
> car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
> for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > Unfortunately, all
> > the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.
>
> Firewood comes from stores?
> Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
> Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16" rick of wood, or
> half of one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
> overkill)
>
> >
> > We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
> > fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
>
> It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
> 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale
> for $90-100 on occasion.
> Befo

Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Curt Raymond]

Lotsa work for very little return. Green wood is only maybe $180/cord, you need 
space to let it dry...


-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:39:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Dimitri Seretakis 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
Message-ID: <700506.1202...@web113211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I do the same. Just don't understand why they can't sell the stuff.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

Then you need a woodstove and a splitter, go off the heat grid.

--R


  
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[LWB250]

What he said.  And if you're really paranoid, you can set one up for dual fuel 
(NG & LP) easily and for little additional cost.

The likelihood of your NG supply failing is very, very low.  The few areas that 
require dual fuel setups by law are places like California, where the 
possibility of interruption is present from things like earthquakes.

The only real disadvantage with NG is that it is lower in BTU content than 
gasoline or LP, therefore, the generator output is slightly lower on NG.

I was just talking with my partners, and they mentioned that if we sell 10 or 
more units at a time we get a pretty good discount...

Dan


--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Scott Ritchey  wrote:

> From: Scott Ritchey 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 1:40 AM
> Natural gas (or propane) is the way
> to go IMO.  The fuel doesn't go bad and
> the carb doesn't gum up.  And with Natural gas there's
> no storage problem (I
> have a 500 gal underground propane tank).  The
> downside is you need a more
> costly generator that's set up for LP on NG.  My
> neighbor in FL had a 40KW
> NG generator that fed the neighborhood after several
> hurricanes.
> 
> Diesel may be more efficient but there are the fuel issues
> (transportation,
> storage, shelf life).  
> 
> Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 15:37
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> 
> What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a
> generator hooked up to
> our utility natural gas line?
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
> SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
> 53310 
> wrote:
> 
> > I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power
> Andrew needs? You
> > could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the
> inverter into that
> > car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may
> need too much power
> > for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming
> gas furnace).
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> >
> > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, all
> > > the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy
> firewood.
> >
> > Firewood comes from stores?
> > Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering
> delivered wood for sale?
> > Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16"
> rick of wood, or
> > half of one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128
> cubic feet = total
> > overkill)
> >
> > >
> > > We are considering getting a gas powered
> generator, or converting our
> > > fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this
> experience.
> >
> > It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those
> little 1000w
> > 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v.
> I see them on sale
> > for $90-100 on occasion.
> > Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an
> outlet in the power
> > line to the central heat boiler, brought in the
> batteries out of his
> > boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked
> up to all the
> > marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49
> batteries on hand.
> > If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you
> must isolate it
> > by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[LWB250]

The Amish are allowed to use internal combustion engines for various things - I 
used to sell them engines years ago in northern Indiana, where there is a large 
Amish community.  The typical setup was an engine used to run a jackshaft 
through a building.  The jackshaft had numerous pulleys on it that used leather 
belts to run machinery, like woodworking equipment, for example.

No generators, no electricity, no pumps, etc.  I think they were only allowed 
to use them for work related stuff.

Good customers.  Always fed you when you visited and paid in cash.

Dan



--- On Thu, 2/11/10, John Reames  wrote:

> From: John Reames 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:00 AM
> Probaby have the engine to spin a
> compressor to refrigerate milk... The multiletter agencies
> are kinda funny about that...
> 
> --
> John W Reames
> jwrea...@comcast.net
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> 
> On Feb 10, 2010, at 18:04, Rich Thomas 
> wrote:
> 
> > A guy I know was telling me about some Amish people he
> knew, they had a diesel engine for something (they will use
> diesel engines directly but not generate electricity with
> them for reasons that are not clear to me) and ran the
> radiator into the house to warm it.  So I'm thinking
> you could get your diesel car, do a bypass on the radiator,
> hook a gen head to the crank pulley with a long belt and the
> gen on a wheeled cart that would roll right over the engine,
> like a hospital bed table, and you would be good to go as
> long as you had diesel.
> > 
> > --R
> > 
> > Peter Hertzing wrote:
> >> In regards to the fireplace - I would get a wood
> insert for the fireplace.
> >> Then you can power the blower with your new gas
> generator.  This would be
> >> the lowest cost way to be sure you would have
> an  uninterrupted heat source.
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[LWB250]

You could do it, but why would you have the generator inside the house in the 
first place?  That's pretty darned dangerous in a lot of ways.

Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> From: andrew strasfogel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 11:29 PM
> My previous abode had two fireplace
> inserts so I am aware of their pros and
> cons.
> 
> I was thinking that a buiilt-in *natural gas* powered
> generator that somehow
> exhausts through the furnace flue would make the most
> elegant solution, but
> is that even possible?  I guess I could Google it.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Jim Cathey 
> wrote:
> 
> > What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a
> generator hooked up to
> >> our utility natural gas line?
> >>
> >
> > Probably not really cost-effective for most people.
> > They cost a lot more than the usual rope-pull
> generattle,
> > but if you want automatic turnkey operation they're
> excellent.
> >
> > You can make do with a camping genny, like the 1600W
> Coleman
> > I used for our longest power outage, but the common
> 5-7kW
> > job is much easier to live with, and doesn't use so
> much
> > gasoline that you can't keep it fed.  The 1600W
> was pure
> > Green Acres, if you remember that old TV show
> episode.
> > (And ironic, considering where I live.)
> >
> > One of those, some experience in powering the house
> with it,
> > and a rack of wood to burn and you're good for quite
> some time.
> > Keep the freezers cold and some lights on, and heat
> with wood.
> >
> > The enclosed 5kW diesels on wheels are surprisingly
> quiet.
> > I got a dead Costco one that needs a new voltage
> regulator.
> > Still haven't fixed that yet, our primary backup
> source is
> > the usual 6kW hardware store special.
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Scott Ritchey]

Natural gas (or propane) is the way to go IMO.  The fuel doesn't go bad and
the carb doesn't gum up.  And with Natural gas there's no storage problem (I
have a 500 gal underground propane tank).  The downside is you need a more
costly generator that's set up for LP on NG.  My neighbor in FL had a 40KW
NG generator that fed the neighborhood after several hurricanes.

Diesel may be more efficient but there are the fuel issues (transportation,
storage, shelf life).  

Scott

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 15:37
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
our utility natural gas line?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
> could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
> car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
> for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > Unfortunately, all
> > the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.
>
> Firewood comes from stores?
> Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
> Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16" rick of wood, or
> half of one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
> overkill)
>
> >
> > We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
> > fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
>
> It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
> 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale
> for $90-100 on occasion.
> Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
> line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
> boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
> marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand.
> If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
> by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.
>
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:29:20 -0500 andrew strasfogel
 wrote:

> I was thinking that a buiilt-in *natural gas* powered generator that
> somehow exhausts through the furnace flue would make the most elegant
> solution, but is that even possible?  I guess I could Google it.

You could run the exhaust pipe inside and have it heat the house, but you
would not want to terminate it in the flue; the flue isn't designed for
that kind of thing. You would want to make sure none of the exhaust has
any (or should I say, ANY) possibility of coming inside the house.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Dieselhead]

Bonus, you could always go sit in the nice warm car!

Being a Diesel,  you can even sleep in the nice warm car with no fear 
of CO., but you should pipe the exhaust outside.



I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).

-Max


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[John Reames]

Probaby have the engine to spin a compressor to refrigerate milk...  
The multiletter agencies are kinda funny about that...


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On Feb 10, 2010, at 18:04, Rich Thomas > wrote:


A guy I know was telling me about some Amish people he knew, they  
had a diesel engine for something (they will use diesel engines  
directly but not generate electricity with them for reasons that are  
not clear to me) and ran the radiator into the house to warm it.  So  
I'm thinking you could get your diesel car, do a bypass on the  
radiator, hook a gen head to the crank pulley with a long belt and  
the gen on a wheeled cart that would roll right over the engine,  
like a hospital bed table, and you would be good to go as long as  
you had diesel.


--R

Peter Hertzing wrote:
In regards to the fireplace - I would get a wood insert for the  
fireplace.
Then you can power the blower with your new gas generator.  This  
would be
the lowest cost way to be sure you would have an  uninterrupted  
heat source.





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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[John Reames]

That's about what we had up here (Baltimore). We got 20.5 from the one  
that just ended.  We got 28 from the weekend one.  It's well above my  
three year old's eyeballs.  I don't remember the previous two.  I  
think our season totals are close to 80 inches!


We have not seen a city snow plow make it past our house since Friday  
night.  We have gone out and dug a couple of them out, though.  We  
hand dug some of our street (i put in at least 13 hours snow removal  
since saturday...) and all the benzes (2 99 e300's and an 85 300d)  
fired right up once they were cleared.  The one e300 did okay in the  
snow when we got out and went to BJ's to fill the trunk (ice melter,  
cat litter, cat food, paper products...), and I did okay backing all  
the way into my spot...


With the travel ban "phase 3 snow emergency" in place, we just sit  
here...


BTW, can anyone spare some global warming to send our way?

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On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:53, andrew strasfogel   
wrote:



Hi Randy,

Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26" in the back  
yard

and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)

We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started  
last
night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another  
foot to
accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!   
I've
lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest  
winter of
all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like  
this, but
temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next  
5 days.



We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:

Saturday, Jan. 30:  6"
Tuesday, Feb. 2:4"
Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25"
Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10" (still snowing)

This is a very big deal for D.C.

Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it  
handled

great!

No mas!

Andrew
snow covered 1985 300TD

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:


How was the storm in your area on the weekend?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Dieselhead]

No mas!

Andrew
snow covered 1985 300TD



Nothing personal Andrew, but we are all safe for a couple of days 
while DC is buried in snow!


I say :

mas!
Mas!

let it snow (in DC!)

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[andrew strasfogel]

My previous abode had two fireplace inserts so I am aware of their pros and
cons.

I was thinking that a buiilt-in *natural gas* powered generator that somehow
exhausts through the furnace flue would make the most elegant solution, but
is that even possible?  I guess I could Google it.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
>> our utility natural gas line?
>>
>
> Probably not really cost-effective for most people.
> They cost a lot more than the usual rope-pull generattle,
> but if you want automatic turnkey operation they're excellent.
>
> You can make do with a camping genny, like the 1600W Coleman
> I used for our longest power outage, but the common 5-7kW
> job is much easier to live with, and doesn't use so much
> gasoline that you can't keep it fed.  The 1600W was pure
> Green Acres, if you remember that old TV show episode.
> (And ironic, considering where I live.)
>
> One of those, some experience in powering the house with it,
> and a rack of wood to burn and you're good for quite some time.
> Keep the freezers cold and some lights on, and heat with wood.
>
> The enclosed 5kW diesels on wheels are surprisingly quiet.
> I got a dead Costco one that needs a new voltage regulator.
> Still haven't fixed that yet, our primary backup source is
> the usual 6kW hardware store special.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Jim Cathey]

What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up 
to

our utility natural gas line?


Probably not really cost-effective for most people.
They cost a lot more than the usual rope-pull generattle,
but if you want automatic turnkey operation they're excellent.

You can make do with a camping genny, like the 1600W Coleman
I used for our longest power outage, but the common 5-7kW
job is much easier to live with, and doesn't use so much
gasoline that you can't keep it fed.  The 1600W was pure
Green Acres, if you remember that old TV show episode.
(And ironic, considering where I live.)

One of those, some experience in powering the house with it,
and a rack of wood to burn and you're good for quite some time.
Keep the freezers cold and some lights on, and heat with wood.

The enclosed 5kW diesels on wheels are surprisingly quiet.
I got a dead Costco one that needs a new voltage regulator.
Still haven't fixed that yet, our primary backup source is
the usual 6kW hardware store special.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Dimitri Seretakis]

I do the same. Just don't understand why they can't sell the stuff.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

Then you need a woodstove and a splitter, go off the heat grid.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
I am an evolved manly-man.  Whenever I hear a chain saw I track down the
manly tree crew workers and offer to take the cut logs off their hands for
free, if they dump them in the alley near my garage.  Works like a charm, a
true "win-win" because it saves them hauling to the dump.

 

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[WILTON]

'Just Googled a bunch of 'em; 'hadn't heard much about small (5kw, etc) 
Diesel ones before.


Wilton

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From: "R A Bennell" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


I have seen them in a local store. Chinese stuff I suppose but it looked 
reasonably well put together. Check out
some of the Farm & Fleet or similar stores down your way or maybe Grizzley 
or Harbour Freight etc.


Randy

-Original Message-
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Anybody know of a 5 or 6 kw Diesel-powered gen set?  Honda, Mahindra,
whoever, etc?

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "LWB250" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


She is right - our utilities in Florida were underground, and despite all
the hurricane related outages a few years ago ours never even blinked.

As for a generator, it's not a bad idea - some of the smaller home standby
units we sell are quite affordable, especially when you consider the
inconvenience of being out of power.  If you have questions along these
lines drop me a note off list.

I have a 25kW natural gas unit at my house and have yet to have a major
outage since I installed it.  We had an interrupter blow at a local
substation a few months ago, but we were only out for 45 minutes.  It was
fun coming home to a lit house when everyone else was dark, however.  Lots
of questions from the neighbors after that


Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel  wrote:


From: andrew strasfogel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:04 PM
Power outages in the winter are quite
rare in DC, so we had no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.
The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow,
when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees. Throughout the day, the
outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm. By 8 pm the inside temp was
down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside. We debated checking into a hotel,
because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a "multiple day event", meaning
there was no
assurance we would get our electricity back anytime
soon. We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a
brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.
Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread
outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10" (25 cm) of
snow. Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy
firewood. This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the
thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down
again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or
converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our
power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about
freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell 
wrote:

> We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge
accumulations here
> yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
> get a whole lot more.
>
> I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be
long gone before ours
> are. We will likely have at least some
> snow around until sometime in late March or even into
April.
>
> How did you make out without power for a day? Do you
have a fireplace or
> some other source of heat?
>
> I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but
I really should haul
> it out and make sure it will still run.
> I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have
been better to go
> with either diesel or propane. It is only
> 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could
run the blower on our
> gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
> swap stuff back and forth.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on
Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
>
> Hi Randy,
>
> Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
>
> Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we
had 26" in the back yard
> and lost power for a day. Work was canceled
Monday and Tuesday. :)
>
> We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part
deux that started last
> night. Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
winds, and another

Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Rich Thomas]

Then you need a woodstove and a splitter, go off the heat grid.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

I am an evolved manly-man.  Whenever I hear a chain saw I track down the
manly tree crew workers and offer to take the cut logs off their hands for
free, if they dump them in the alley near my garage.  Works like a charm, a
true "win-win" because it saves them hauling to the dump.

  



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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[andrew strasfogel]

I am an evolved manly-man.  Whenever I hear a chain saw I track down the
manly tree crew workers and offer to take the cut logs off their hands for
free, if they dump them in the alley near my garage.  Works like a charm, a
true "win-win" because it saves them hauling to the dump.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> That would be the ideal, though I think they are kinda pricey for no more
> than you might use it.  A small gasoline generator with a few 5gal cans of
> gas in the garage (cycle them so they don't get funky) would serve to crank
> up your heat occasionally to keep the house bearable.  Though with the
> global warming you are experiencing power outages might be more frequent in
> the future and the natgas would be a better choice.  Whoever our list
> colleague is who sells gensets should establish a presence in DC, you could
> be his agent and probably make a killing starting next week.
>
> My niece in Alexandria didn't get their power back until Sunday night, it
> was starting to get quite chilly in their house.  If you have a fireplace
> you might want to look at a good woodstove insert, a fireplace sucks your
> warm air right up the chimney.  Oh, and buy a chainsaw and go around to all
> the trees that have collapsed in the heavy wet snow, load up your TD... be a
> manly man.  Let it dry over the summer and you're good to go.  I collected
>  a lot of firewood like that when I lived up by Boston, nor'easters and the
> neighborhood and town tree dump were my friend.  I had a woodstove in the
> kitchen, the last winter we were there I only spent $500 on oil for the
> burner over like 5-6 months.
>
> --R
>
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
>> What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
>> our utility natural gas line?
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[R A Bennell]

I have seen them in a local store. Chinese stuff I suppose but it looked 
reasonably well put together. Check out
some of the Farm & Fleet or similar stores down your way or maybe Grizzley or 
Harbour Freight etc.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Anybody know of a 5 or 6 kw Diesel-powered gen set?  Honda, Mahindra,
whoever, etc?

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "LWB250" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


She is right - our utilities in Florida were underground, and despite all
the hurricane related outages a few years ago ours never even blinked.

As for a generator, it's not a bad idea - some of the smaller home standby
units we sell are quite affordable, especially when you consider the
inconvenience of being out of power.  If you have questions along these
lines drop me a note off list.

I have a 25kW natural gas unit at my house and have yet to have a major
outage since I installed it.  We had an interrupter blow at a local
substation a few months ago, but we were only out for 45 minutes.  It was
fun coming home to a lit house when everyone else was dark, however.  Lots
of questions from the neighbors after that


Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> From: andrew strasfogel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:04 PM
> Power outages in the winter are quite
> rare in DC, so we had no backup plan
> - no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.
> The power went out at
> 6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow,
> when the house
> temp. was approx. 62 degrees. Throughout the day, the
> outside temp. dropped
> during the snowstorm. By 8 pm the inside temp was
> down to 54 while it was
> 19 F. outside. We debated checking into a hotel,
> because the power company
> (Pepco) was warning of a "multiple day event", meaning
> there was no
> assurance we would get our electricity back anytime
> soon. We finally
> decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a
> brilliant
> decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.
> Howls of joy ensued.
>
> Today there is another likelihood of more widespread
> outages due to high
> winds, coupled with the additional 10" (25 cm) of
> snow. Unfortunately, all
> the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy
> firewood. This time,
> however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the
> thermostat to 68 so there
> will be more residual house heat should the lines go down
> again...
>
> We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or
> converting our
> fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
>
> Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our
> power lines were
> BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about
> freezing in the
> dark.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell 
> wrote:
>
> > We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge
> accumulations here
> > yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
> > get a whole lot more.
> >
> > I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be
> long gone before ours
> > are. We will likely have at least some
> > snow around until sometime in late March or even into
> April.
> >
> > How did you make out without power for a day? Do you
> have a fireplace or
> > some other source of heat?
> >
> > I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but
> I really should haul
> > it out and make sure it will still run.
> > I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have
> been better to go
> > with either diesel or propane. It is only
> > 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could
> run the blower on our
> > gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
> > swap stuff back and forth.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on
> Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> >
> >
> > Hi Randy,
> >
> > Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
> >
> > Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we
> had 26" in the back yard
> > and lost power for a day. Work was canceled
> Monday and Tuesday. :)
&g

Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Rich Thomas]

A guy I know was telling me about some Amish people he knew, they had a 
diesel engine for something (they will use diesel engines directly but 
not generate electricity with them for reasons that are not clear to me) 
and ran the radiator into the house to warm it.  So I'm thinking you 
could get your diesel car, do a bypass on the radiator, hook a gen head 
to the crank pulley with a long belt and the gen on a wheeled cart that 
would roll right over the engine, like a hospital bed table, and you 
would be good to go as long as you had diesel.


--R

Peter Hertzing wrote:

In regards to the fireplace - I would get a wood insert for the fireplace.
Then you can power the blower with your new gas generator.  This would be
the lowest cost way to be sure you would have an  uninterrupted heat source.

  



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[WILTON]

Anybody know of a 5 or 6 kw Diesel-powered gen set?  Honda, Mahindra, 
whoever, etc?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "LWB250" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


She is right - our utilities in Florida were underground, and despite all 
the hurricane related outages a few years ago ours never even blinked.


As for a generator, it's not a bad idea - some of the smaller home standby 
units we sell are quite affordable, especially when you consider the 
inconvenience of being out of power.  If you have questions along these 
lines drop me a note off list.


I have a 25kW natural gas unit at my house and have yet to have a major 
outage since I installed it.  We had an interrupter blow at a local 
substation a few months ago, but we were only out for 45 minutes.  It was 
fun coming home to a lit house when everyone else was dark, however.  Lots 
of questions from the neighbors after that



Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel  wrote:


From: andrew strasfogel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:04 PM
Power outages in the winter are quite
rare in DC, so we had no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.
The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow,
when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees. Throughout the day, the
outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm. By 8 pm the inside temp was
down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside. We debated checking into a hotel,
because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a "multiple day event", meaning
there was no
assurance we would get our electricity back anytime
soon. We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a
brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.
Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread
outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10" (25 cm) of
snow. Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy
firewood. This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the
thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down
again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or
converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our
power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about
freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell 
wrote:

> We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge
accumulations here
> yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
> get a whole lot more.
>
> I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be
long gone before ours
> are. We will likely have at least some
> snow around until sometime in late March or even into
April.
>
> How did you make out without power for a day? Do you
have a fireplace or
> some other source of heat?
>
> I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but
I really should haul
> it out and make sure it will still run.
> I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have
been better to go
> with either diesel or propane. It is only
> 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could
run the blower on our
> gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
> swap stuff back and forth.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on
Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
>
> Hi Randy,
>
> Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
>
> Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we
had 26" in the back yard
> and lost power for a day. Work was canceled
Monday and Tuesday. :)
>
> We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part
deux that started last
> night. Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
winds, and another foot to
> accumulate before it's all over. Whistler BC
should be so lucky! I've
> lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest
AND coldest winter
> of
> all time. We normally get a warming trend after
a snowstorm like this, but
> temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing
over the next 5
> days.
>
>
> We've had FOUR consecutive snow storms with
accumulation:
>
> Saturday, Jan. 30: 6"
> Tuesday, Feb. 2: 4"
> Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6: 25"
> Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10" (still snowing)
>
> This is a very big deal for D.C.
>
> Benz content: I drove the 83 300TD in the snow
last night and it handled
> great!
>
> No mas!

Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Curt Raymond]

After the ice storm here in '08 firewood was not only free for the asking in 
some cases you could get paid to TAKE it...

Before I was sidelined with chest pain I was doing pretty well putting firewood 
ahead. Now I'm behind again... Might go cut some this weekend since our 
snowstorm is turning out to be a squib.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:04:52 -0500
From: Rich Thomas 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
Message-ID: <4b731f74.6070...@constructivity.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

That would be the ideal, though I think they are kinda pricey for no 
more than you might use it.  A small gasoline generator with a few 5gal 
cans of gas in the garage (cycle them so they don't get funky) would 
serve to crank up your heat occasionally to keep the house bearable.  
Though with the global warming you are experiencing power outages might 
be more frequent in the future and the natgas would be a better choice.  
Whoever our list colleague is who sells gensets should establish a 
presence in DC, you could be his agent and probably make a killing 
starting next week.

My niece in Alexandria didn't get their power back until Sunday night, 
it was starting to get quite chilly in their house.  If you have a 
fireplace you might want to look at a good woodstove insert, a fireplace 
sucks your warm air right up the chimney.  Oh, and buy a chainsaw and go 
around to all the trees that have collapsed in the heavy wet snow, load 
up your TD... be a manly man.  Let it dry over the summer and you're 
good to go.  I collected  a lot of firewood like that when I lived up by 
Boston, nor'easters and the neighborhood and town tree dump were my 
friend.  I had a woodstove in the kitchen, the last winter we were there 
I only spent $500 on oil for the burner over like 5-6 months.

--R



  
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Curt Raymond]

An insert can make a fireplace much more efficient (although still lousy 
compared to a stove) and much more comfortable to live with...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:31:26 -0500
From: "Peter T. Arnold" 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
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I can power my furnace, a few lights with my 1500w genny.  Not fat 
living but is way ahead of nothing!  I wouldn't want much more due to 
cost, fuel use {got to lug it around and it's got to be fresh!}, crank 
starting etc.
Fireplace is NOT a good heat source!  With the draft it draws, it will 
be grossly inefficient when it pumps all the warm air out of the house.
I'm sure guys with 5KW will pipe in, different strokes for different 
folks..  I'm very happy to just exist for a few days every couple of years.

YMMV

Pete



  
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Kevin]

That and air quality districts are popping up and deciding when you can and
cannot use your fireplace or stove, regardless of EPA approval.

Fortunately, I moved somewhere that it's still considered acceptible (and
the norm) to burn yard debris.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:55:51PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote:
> Check with your insurance company first. Many are reluctant to have any sort 
> of wood stove in the house. I expect
> they would ban fireplaces too if they could. Probably most fireplaces are 
> more of a decoration than a useful item.
> 

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[R A Bennell]

Check with your insurance company first. Many are reluctant to have any sort of 
wood stove in the house. I expect
they would ban fireplaces too if they could. Probably most fireplaces are more 
of a decoration than a useful item.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Peter Hertzing
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


In regards to the fireplace - I would get a wood insert for the fireplace.
Then you can power the blower with your new gas generator.  This would be
the lowest cost way to be sure you would have an  uninterrupted heat source.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> I like it, but such a beast might be more expensive than a gasoline
> powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a fee to someone
> for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering solution though,
> with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician wire in the
> connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace and maybe
> some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with maybe only a
> 3kw or 5kw generator.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:37 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
> What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up
> to our utility natural gas line?
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
> SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310  wrote:
>
> > I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
> > could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into
> > that car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much
> > power for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas
> furnace).
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> >
> > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, all
> > > the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.
> >
> > Firewood comes from stores?
> > Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for
> sale?
> > Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16" rick of wood, or
> > half of one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
> > overkill)
> >
> > >
> > > We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting
> > > our fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
> >
> > It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
> > 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on
> > sale for $90-100 on occasion.
> > Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
>
> > line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
> > boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
> > marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on
> hand.
> > If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
>
> > by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.
> >
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[R A Bennell]

Wow, nice prices. I think I would have to pay double that here.

If you were in an area where power failed all the time, you might want to go 
even deeper into this stuff. Do a
google search and you should come up with a story by a fellow in Florida who 
got tired of hurricanes taking out his
power. He got one of the Lister style diesel engines now made in India and 
hooked it up to a big generator head. A
nice setup if you need it.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of LWB250
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


I can give you some ballpark numbers for a couple of nice air cooled automatic 
standby systems:

8kW natural gas with 100A automatic transfer switch - around $2400

13kW with same - around $3900

These can be set up for LP as well if you don't have natural gas.

That's with shipping, no installation, but unlimited customer and technical 
support.

If you have done any sort of house wiring and/or plumbing you can install one.  
It's really quite simple.

I have two sump pumps in my basement that absolutely cannot fail.  One can 
handle things unless there are
torrential downpours for hours, but without electricity it would be a matter of 
minutes before my basement would be
afloat.

With a standby generator installed, I am comfortable leaving on vacations and 
the like, as I know that I won't come
home to a flooded basement.  The additional privilege of having power during an 
outage for the rest of the house is
icing on the cake.

The size of my generator is such that there is little I can't run when we're 
off-grid, but that's the exception for
most.  Being in the "business" has allowed me to get a much larger unit than I 
could otherwise afford

Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
 wrote:

> From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
> 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 3:49 PM
> I like it, but such a beast might be
> more expensive than a gasoline
> powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a
> fee to someone
> for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering
> solution though,
> with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician
> wire in the
> connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace
> and maybe
> some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with
> maybe only a
> 3kw or 5kw generator.
>
> -Max
>






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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[R A Bennell]

I am chiming in late but I agree - good but expensive. If you look at places 
like Lowes they likely sell a setup
that is installed in a box outside - wired into the sytem and automatic so you 
won't even know the power is off in
some cases. Cost will be like $10K. Given you are in the city you probably need 
less than that. Wait until summer
when no one remembers the snowstorm and buy a used one off of Kijiji or 
something such and then keep it tuned up so
it will run when you need it.

There are diesel ones available too so that would even be better than gasoline 
given your diesel cars. You could
siphon the fuel out of the cars if need be and that would be enough to keep you 
going for a bit with small
generator.

Natural gas would be nice but you could also consider one fired by propane. 
Propane stored in tanks in your garage
would not get old like gasoline.

Randy

-Original Message-
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
our utility natural gas line?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
> could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
> car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
> for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > Unfortunately, all
> > the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.
>
> Firewood comes from stores?
> Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
> Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16" rick of wood, or
> half of one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
> overkill)
>
> >
> > We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
> > fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
>
> It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
> 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale
> for $90-100 on occasion.
> Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
> line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
> boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
> marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand.
> If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
> by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.
>
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Peter Hertzing]

In regards to the fireplace - I would get a wood insert for the fireplace.
Then you can power the blower with your new gas generator.  This would be
the lowest cost way to be sure you would have an  uninterrupted heat source.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> I like it, but such a beast might be more expensive than a gasoline
> powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a fee to someone
> for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering solution though,
> with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician wire in the
> connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace and maybe
> some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with maybe only a
> 3kw or 5kw generator.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:37 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
> What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up
> to our utility natural gas line?
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
> SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310  wrote:
>
> > I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
> > could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into
> > that car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much
> > power for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas
> furnace).
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> >
> > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, all
> > > the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.
> >
> > Firewood comes from stores?
> > Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for
> sale?
> > Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16" rick of wood, or
> > half of one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
> > overkill)
> >
> > >
> > > We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting
> > > our fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
> >
> > It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
> > 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on
> > sale for $90-100 on occasion.
> > Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
>
> > line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
> > boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
> > marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on
> hand.
> > If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
>
> > by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[LWB250]

I can give you some ballpark numbers for a couple of nice air cooled automatic 
standby systems:

8kW natural gas with 100A automatic transfer switch - around $2400

13kW with same - around $3900

These can be set up for LP as well if you don't have natural gas.

That's with shipping, no installation, but unlimited customer and technical 
support.

If you have done any sort of house wiring and/or plumbing you can install one.  
It's really quite simple.

I have two sump pumps in my basement that absolutely cannot fail.  One can 
handle things unless there are torrential downpours for hours, but without 
electricity it would be a matter of minutes before my basement would be afloat.

With a standby generator installed, I am comfortable leaving on vacations and 
the like, as I know that I won't come home to a flooded basement.  The 
additional privilege of having power during an outage for the rest of the house 
is icing on the cake.

The size of my generator is such that there is little I can't run when we're 
off-grid, but that's the exception for most.  Being in the "business" has 
allowed me to get a much larger unit than I could otherwise afford

Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
 wrote:

> From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
> 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 3:49 PM
> I like it, but such a beast might be
> more expensive than a gasoline
> powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a
> fee to someone
> for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering
> solution though,
> with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician
> wire in the
> connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace
> and maybe
> some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with
> maybe only a
> 3kw or 5kw generator.
> 
> -Max
> 



  


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[LWB250]

She is right - our utilities in Florida were underground, and despite all the 
hurricane related outages a few years ago ours never even blinked.

As for a generator, it's not a bad idea - some of the smaller home standby 
units we sell are quite affordable, especially when you consider the 
inconvenience of being out of power.  If you have questions along these lines 
drop me a note off list.

I have a 25kW natural gas unit at my house and have yet to have a major outage 
since I installed it.  We had an interrupter blow at a local substation a few 
months ago, but we were only out for 45 minutes.  It was fun coming home to a 
lit house when everyone else was dark, however.  Lots of questions from the 
neighbors after that


Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> From: andrew strasfogel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:04 PM
> Power outages in the winter are quite
> rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
> - no generator or even firewood for our fireplace. 
> The power went out at
> 6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow,
> when the house
> temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the
> outside temp. dropped
> during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was
> down to 54 while it was
> 19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel,
> because the power company
> (Pepco) was warning of a "multiple day event", meaning
> there was no
> assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime
> soon.  We finally
> decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a
> brilliant
> decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm. 
> Howls of joy ensued.
> 
> Today there is another likelihood of more widespread
> outages due to high
> winds, coupled with the additional 10" (25 cm) of
> snow.  Unfortunately, all
> the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy
> firewood.  This time,
> however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the
> thermostat to 68 so there
> will be more residual house heat should the lines go down
> again...
> 
> We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or
> converting our
> fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
> 
> Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our
> power lines were
> BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about
> freezing in the
> dark.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell 
> wrote:
> 
> > We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge
> accumulations here
> > yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
> > get a whole lot more.
> >
> > I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be
> long gone before ours
> > are. We will likely have at least some
> > snow around until sometime in late March or even into
> April.
> >
> > How did you make out without power for a day? Do you
> have a fireplace or
> > some other source of heat?
> >
> > I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but
> I really should haul
> > it out and make sure it will still run.
> > I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have
> been better to go
> > with either diesel or propane. It is only
> > 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could
> run the blower on our
> > gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
> > swap stuff back and forth.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on
> Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
> >
> >
> > Hi Randy,
> >
> > Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
> >
> > Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we
> had  26" in the back yard
> > and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled
> Monday and Tuesday.  :)
> >
> > We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part
> deux that started last
> > night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
> winds, and another foot to
> > accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC
> should be  so lucky!  I've
> > lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest
> AND coldest winter
> > of
> > all time.  We normally get a warming trend after
> a snowstorm like this, but
> > temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing
> over the next 5
> > days.
> >
> >
> > We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with
> accumulation:

Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Rich Thomas]

That would be the ideal, though I think they are kinda pricey for no 
more than you might use it.  A small gasoline generator with a few 5gal 
cans of gas in the garage (cycle them so they don't get funky) would 
serve to crank up your heat occasionally to keep the house bearable.  
Though with the global warming you are experiencing power outages might 
be more frequent in the future and the natgas would be a better choice.  
Whoever our list colleague is who sells gensets should establish a 
presence in DC, you could be his agent and probably make a killing 
starting next week.


My niece in Alexandria didn't get their power back until Sunday night, 
it was starting to get quite chilly in their house.  If you have a 
fireplace you might want to look at a good woodstove insert, a fireplace 
sucks your warm air right up the chimney.  Oh, and buy a chainsaw and go 
around to all the trees that have collapsed in the heavy wet snow, load 
up your TD... be a manly man.  Let it dry over the summer and you're 
good to go.  I collected  a lot of firewood like that when I lived up by 
Boston, nor'easters and the neighborhood and town tree dump were my 
friend.  I had a woodstove in the kitchen, the last winter we were there 
I only spent $500 on oil for the burner over like 5-6 months.


--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
our utility natural gas line?

  



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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Curt Raymond]

Shame on you for being unprepared...

I doubt she'd be so excited if the power company came and said "We're going to 
bury your power lines so you don't have another outage, your share of the cost 
is $5000."


-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:04:23 -0500
From: andrew strasfogel 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Power outages in the winter are quite rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.  The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow, when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel, because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a "multiple day event", meaning there was no
assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime soon.  We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.  Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10" (25 cm) of snow.  Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.  This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about freezing in the
dark.

Andrew


  
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I like it, but such a beast might be more expensive than a gasoline
powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a fee to someone
for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering solution though,
with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician wire in the
connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace and maybe
some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with maybe only a
3kw or 5kw generator.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up
to our utility natural gas line?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310  wrote:

> I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You 
> could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into 
> that car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much 
> power for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas
furnace).
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > Unfortunately, all
> > the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.
>
> Firewood comes from stores?
> Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for
sale?
> Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16" rick of wood, or 
> half of one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
> overkill)
>
> >
> > We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting 
> > our fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
>
> It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w 
> 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on 
> sale for $90-100 on occasion.
> Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power

> line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his 
> boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the 
> marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on
hand.
> If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it

> by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.
>
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[andrew strasfogel]

What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
our utility natural gas line?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
> could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
> car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
> for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > Unfortunately, all
> > the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.
>
> Firewood comes from stores?
> Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
> Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16" rick of wood, or
> half of one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
> overkill)
>
> >
> > We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
> > fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
>
> It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
> 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale
> for $90-100 on occasion.
> Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
> line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
> boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
> marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand.
> If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
> by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.
>
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> Unfortunately, all
> the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.

Firewood comes from stores?
Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16" rick of wood, or
half of one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
overkill)

> 
> We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our 
> fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale
for $90-100 on occasion.
Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand.
If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[R A Bennell]

Only some of the power lines are buried here, mostly in the newer areas. Power 
still has to get here from the north
and be distributed about and that is pretty well all overhead stuff.

We rarely suffer outages of any duration - more often a blink of the lights and 
we are back up. However, the
thought still crosses my mind that we might be in tough shape if the power was 
out for long in the cold times so I
bought the little generator. I have recently been looking at a bigger but older 
one that runs on propane but the
fellow who wishes to sell it has never personally had it running or seen it 
running so I am not sure I want it. It
is also a couple of hundred miles away so not easy to go have a look at, esp 
this time of year. It is only 10Kw and
my existing one is 7.5Kw so not a huge increase in power. The bigger one is not 
portable unless one makes some sort
of cart for it. Don't know if that is important but I might want to use it at 
the lake or some such as well.

What sort of heat does your home have? Gas by the sounds of it.

Got to go for now.

Randy

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Power outages in the winter are quite rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.  The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow, when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel, because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a "multiple day event", meaning there was no
assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime soon.  We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.  Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10" (25 cm) of snow.  Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.  This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge accumulations here
> yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
> get a whole lot more.
>
> I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be long gone before ours
> are. We will likely have at least some
> snow around until sometime in late March or even into April.
>
> How did you make out without power for a day? Do you have a fireplace or
> some other source of heat?
>
> I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but I really should haul
> it out and make sure it will still run.
> I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have been better to go
> with either diesel or propane. It is only
> 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could run the blower on our
> gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
> swap stuff back and forth.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
>
> Hi Randy,
>
> Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
>
> Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26" in the back yard
> and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)
>
> We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started last
> night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another foot to
> accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!  I've
> lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest winter
> of
> all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like this, but
> temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next 5
> days.
>
>
> We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:
>
> Saturday, Jan. 30:  6"
> Tuesday, Feb. 2:4"
> Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25"
> Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10" (still snowing)
>
> This is a very bi

Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Peter T. Arnold]

I can power my furnace, a few lights with my 1500w genny.  Not fat 
living but is way ahead of nothing!  I wouldn't want much more due to 
cost, fuel use {got to lug it around and it's got to be fresh!}, crank 
starting etc.
Fireplace is NOT a good heat source!  With the draft it draws, it will 
be grossly inefficient when it pumps all the warm air out of the house.
I'm sure guys with 5KW will pipe in, different strokes for different 
folks..  I'm very happy to just exist for a few days every couple of years.


YMMV

Pete



On 2/10/2010 2:04 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Power outages in the winter are quite rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.  The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow, when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel, because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a "multiple day event", meaning there was no
assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime soon.  We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.  Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10" (25 cm) of snow.  Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.  This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:

   

We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge accumulations here
yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
get a whole lot more.

I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be long gone before ours
are. We will likely have at least some
snow around until sometime in late March or even into April.

How did you make out without power for a day? Do you have a fireplace or
some other source of heat?

I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but I really should haul
it out and make sure it will still run.
I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have been better to go
with either diesel or propane. It is only
7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could run the blower on our
gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
swap stuff back and forth.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Hi Randy,

Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26" in the back yard
and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)

We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started last
night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another foot to
accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!  I've
lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest winter
of
all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like this, but
temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next 5
days.


We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:

Saturday, Jan. 30:  6"
Tuesday, Feb. 2:4"
Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25"
Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10" (still snowing)

This is a very big deal for D.C.

Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it handled
great!

No mas!

Andrew
snow covered 1985 300TD

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:

 

How was the storm in your area on the weekend?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.


Firewood comes from stores?
Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16" rick of wood, or half of 
one? (a full cord = three 16" ricks = 128 cubic feet = total overkill)




We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.


It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w 2-stroke 
generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale for $90-100 on 
occasion.
Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power line to 
the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his boats, and backfed 
the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the marine batteries. I suspect 
you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand. If you backfeed any part of the 
electrical wiring, you must isolate it by turning off the breaker or removing 
the fuse.



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[andrew strasfogel]

Power outages in the winter are quite rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.  The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow, when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel, because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a "multiple day event", meaning there was no
assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime soon.  We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.  Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10" (25 cm) of snow.  Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.  This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge accumulations here
> yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
> get a whole lot more.
>
> I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be long gone before ours
> are. We will likely have at least some
> snow around until sometime in late March or even into April.
>
> How did you make out without power for a day? Do you have a fireplace or
> some other source of heat?
>
> I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but I really should haul
> it out and make sure it will still run.
> I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have been better to go
> with either diesel or propane. It is only
> 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could run the blower on our
> gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
> swap stuff back and forth.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
>
>
> Hi Randy,
>
> Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
>
> Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26" in the back yard
> and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)
>
> We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started last
> night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another foot to
> accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!  I've
> lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest winter
> of
> all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like this, but
> temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next 5
> days.
>
>
> We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:
>
> Saturday, Jan. 30:  6"
> Tuesday, Feb. 2:4"
> Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25"
> Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10" (still snowing)
>
> This is a very big deal for D.C.
>
> Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it handled
> great!
>
> No mas!
>
> Andrew
> snow covered 1985 300TD
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:
>
> > How was the storm in your area on the weekend?
> >
> > Randy
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

[R A Bennell]

We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge accumulations here yet. 
That is ok with me. I hope we don't
get a whole lot more.

I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be long gone before ours are. 
We will likely have at least some
snow around until sometime in late March or even into April.

How did you make out without power for a day? Do you have a fireplace or some 
other source of heat?

I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but I really should haul it 
out and make sure it will still run.
I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have been better to go with 
either diesel or propane. It is only
7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could run the blower on our gas 
furnace and the microwave etc if we
swap stuff back and forth.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Hi Randy,

Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26" in the back yard
and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)

We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started last
night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another foot to
accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!  I've
lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest winter of
all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like this, but
temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next 5 days.


We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:

Saturday, Jan. 30:  6"
Tuesday, Feb. 2:4"
Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25"
Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10" (still snowing)

This is a very big deal for D.C.

Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it handled
great!

No mas!

Andrew
snow covered 1985 300TD

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> How was the storm in your area on the weekend?
>
> Randy
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