Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[Luther Gulseth]

I knew I could trust Marshall to come through with this.  Thanks a lot!

Luther

Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> There is a chart covering all the European model Mercedes made between 
> '81 and '85 in the '85 Technical Data Manual. The numbers I provided 
> were for a 300D. A 240D is rated to handle 10 kg less (unbraked) and the 
> same weight as a 300D braked. They do NOT list any weights for US 
> delivered Mercedes because of liability issues (I'm told).
> 
> I've attached the chart!
> 
> Marshall



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Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (160kmi)
'82 300D  (74kmi needs block or engine)

Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[Marshall Booth]

Luther Gulseth wrote:
> Marshall, can you cite your reference for this information?  I've been  =

> asked to cite this before and could not.  Thanks,
> Luther
> =

> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:31:28 -0500, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  =

> wrote:
> =

>> 750 kg (1650 lb) unbraked and 1500 kg (3300 lb) braked is permitted for
>> a 123 300D.
>>
>> Marshall
> =

> =

> =


There is a chart covering all the European model Mercedes made between =

'81 and '85 in the '85 Technical Data Manual. The numbers I provided =

were for a 300D. A 240D is rated to handle 10 kg less (unbraked) and the =

same weight as a 300D braked. They do NOT list any weights for US =

delivered Mercedes because of liability issues (I'm told).

I've attached the chart!

Marshall
-- =

  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
   "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 =

190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
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Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[Bob Rentfro]

Where was the best place to get the correct hitch? I had a link but it look 
like I  86-ed it.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 154K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 66K
:itchfield Park, AZ


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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really




On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:33 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:


Marshall, can you cite your reference for this information?  I've been
asked to cite this before and could not.  Thanks,
Luther


You can now cite it using this information from a very reliable source:



750 kg (1650 lb) unbraked and 1500 kg (3300 lb) braked is permitted
for
a 123 300D.

Marshall


If asked to provide proof again, simply produce this document.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[John Berryman]

On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:33 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:


Marshall, can you cite your reference for this information?  I've been
asked to cite this before and could not.  Thanks,
Luther


You can now cite it using this information from a very reliable source:



750 kg (1650 lb) unbraked and 1500 kg (3300 lb) braked is permitted  
for

a 123 300D.

Marshall


If asked to provide proof again, simply produce this document.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[Luther Gulseth]

Marshall, can you cite your reference for this information?  I've been  
asked to cite this before and could not.  Thanks,

Luther

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:31:28 -0500, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:




750 kg (1650 lb) unbraked and 1500 kg (3300 lb) braked is permitted for
a 123 300D.

Marshall




--
Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (236 kmi)
'82 300CD (160 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work

Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[Marshall Booth]

Bob Rentfro wrote:

My in-laws just sold their house in Illinois. It now appears there is some 
stuff that SWMBO believes we have to have (it's more like she doesn't want her 
brother's wife to get any of it). I need to get it from IL to AZ. A small 
U-haul truck is $1560 one way for goodness sake.   SOjust how much weight 
can I reasonably tow with my 300D? I would get the correct hitch installed, of 
course.


750 kg (1650 lb) unbraked and 1500 kg (3300 lb) braked is permitted for 
a 123 300D.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 
190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)

Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[Luther Gulseth]

www.upack.com  run by ABF.  They bring a small trailer to your house, you 
pack the trailer (that's clever) and they bring a truck and deliver the 
trailer to your new house.  I know several people in the quotation's 
department there

Luther

Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 07:10:16PM -0700, Bob Rentfro wrote:
> > My in-laws just sold their house in Illinois. It now appears there is 
some 
> > stuff that SWMBO believes we have to have (it's more like she doesn't 
want 
> > her brother's wife to get any of it). I need to get it from IL to AZ. A 
> > small U-haul truck is $1560 one way for goodness sake.   SOjust how 
> > much weight can I reasonably tow with my 300D? I would get the correct 
> > hitch installed, of course.
> 
> You'll find that as liability and lawsuits have gotten more out of control,
> more and more places are going to be less likely to rent you a trailer if
> you tell them you are going to pull it behind a 300D.
> 
> For a cheap[er] way to go, some LTL (less than truckload) shippers will 
> drop a box at your house for you to pack, then send that box via freight.
> Might be cheaper than driving on top of the price of a u-haul.
> 
> If you have cash to burn, you could pick up a not too old box van (or even
> cargo van if not a lot of stuff), then sell it when you're done moving.
> 
> K



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Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (160kmi)
'82 300D  (74kmi needs block or engine)

Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[archer]

Does anyone know which state and which insurance company have the cheapest 
auto insurance rates?  Just got my insurance bill from Allstate for two old 
MBs here in Florida:  $840 for the minimum insurance required by the state; 
no comprehensive, etc. included; and that's with one driver for two cars.


Anyone who does not have a job in Florida can have out-of-state tags and 
insurance, so it's possible to establish residence in any other state and 
still live here.  (I'm thinking about living in another state in the summer 
anyway.)


Homeowners insurance has gone up, which is understandable because of the 
hurricanes, but that kind of auto insurance bill for little besides 
liability seems high.


It's about the same as the bill for homeowners insurance on the house 
($853).


Also, if anyone is familiar with the insurance/licenscing costs in various 
states for motorhomes, that info would be appreciated too since motorhome 
living is an option.


Thanks,
Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D

Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[Kevin]

On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 07:10:16PM -0700, Bob Rentfro wrote:
> My in-laws just sold their house in Illinois. It now appears there is some 
> stuff that SWMBO believes we have to have (it's more like she doesn't want 
> her brother's wife to get any of it). I need to get it from IL to AZ. A 
> small U-haul truck is $1560 one way for goodness sake.   SOjust how 
> much weight can I reasonably tow with my 300D? I would get the correct 
> hitch installed, of course.

You'll find that as liability and lawsuits have gotten more out of control,
more and more places are going to be less likely to rent you a trailer if
you tell them you are going to pull it behind a 300D.

For a cheap[er] way to go, some LTL (less than truckload) shippers will 
drop a box at your house for you to pack, then send that box via freight.
Might be cheaper than driving on top of the price of a u-haul.

If you have cash to burn, you could pick up a not too old box van (or even
cargo van if not a lot of stuff), then sell it when you're done moving.

K

Re: [MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[Mitch Haley]

Bob Rentfro wrote:
>  SOjust how much weight can I reasonably tow with my 300D? I would get 
> the correct
> hitch installed, of course.

1500kg with brakes, 750kg w/o is the factory rating for a lot of MBz models, I 
believe
that includes 123s. Good luck finding a hitch rated over 1500lb or so.

[MBZ] How Much Can I Tow...Really

[Bob Rentfro]

My in-laws just sold their house in Illinois. It now appears there is some 
stuff that SWMBO believes we have to have (it's more like she doesn't want her 
brother's wife to get any of it). I need to get it from IL to AZ. A small 
U-haul truck is $1560 one way for goodness sake.   SOjust how much weight 
can I reasonably tow with my 300D? I would get the correct hitch installed, of 
course.

Thanks

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 154K (no hitch, yet)
"01 VW Beetle TDI 66K
waiting on '72 350SL 78K
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Actually under NAFTA you can take any vehicle across the common border, as
long as it's the correct specification (and the vast majority are now
identical spec in Canada and the USA). You just have to pay any tax that
would have been paid in your country, were your purchasing it there.

US dealers have been 'raiding' Canada for years to get extra stock over
their allocation numbers from the manufacturer. Lots of Cdn dealers were
able to sell high-demand cars (in particular, the New Thunderbird) for full
retail to US dealers, when our dollar was much weaker. Thus we saw hardly
any T-Birds here for the first year they were being sold. Also for years the
midwest used car chains bought up all the Caprices and Suburbans they could
find here in Canada, demand was so good in their areas.

Anyway, back to the story: the problem arises on older cars because the
identical spec rule was not true a decade or so ago... many models either
were slightly different in spec in Cda and the US, or for some reason the
manufacturers supplied different-spec vehicles for crash testing in Canada.
So for example, you could only import a Buick Century wagon to Canada (when
it was under 15 years old) if it had power seats and a driver's side
backrest recliner (apparently both optional), as that was how Transport
Canada crash tested it here. We also adopted the more advanced child tether
seat anchors before the US, so a lot of cars have to be retrofitted for that
when they enter Canada.

Mac

 on 6/12/06 6:34 PM, R A Bennell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ask in the USA. Your issues will all be on your side of the border. Canada
> will not care what you take out of the
> country. We were losing lots of fancy SUV's for a long time when the demand
> was high. One of my neighbors used to
> make a good buck just driving them from Winnipeg to Fargo and dropping them
> off. Several drivers would go at a time
> and one van would follow to bring them all home again. Can't be too hard if
> dealers were buying and hauling them
> south. These would all have been North American vehicles and a year or two old
> so not likely much difference on
> either side of the border. Who knows with an old MB but I doubt if they made
> anything special for a market as small
> as ours. We likely get the same thing you folks do which is why it is hard to
> buy a new diesel here.
>
> Randy B
>
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> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 9:52 PM
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> Subject: [MBZ] how to get a car from canada
>
>
> How do you bring a car in from Canada?  There is one in Canada that im
> interested in.  Its WAY too far away so I would have to have it shipped.
> Any help would be appreciated.
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