Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

After dark, heavy pre-Christmas traffic. I had to leave it running another 
minute or so to get safely off the highway.It ran for another 4 months or so 
before it really manifested a problem.
Curt

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  On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 10:23 AM, tyee165 wrote:   I would 
have thought you would see a trail of smoke behind you and have smelled coolant 
before it got hot enough to do damage


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 Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-11-25 7:57 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 
mercedes@okiebenz.com, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  
Cc: Curt Raymond  Subject: Re: [MBZ] How bad would you 
have to overhear at 617 that would  cause it not to start? 
I had the lower radiator hose clamp break while in the fast lane in heavy 
traffic at 75mph. My first hint something was wrong was when the car smelled 
hot. I looked and the gauge was pegged.I got us off the highway quick but the 
damage was done...That was a 240D, apparently Dimitri's buddy still drives it 
with the thermostat forced open...
Curt

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  On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes wrote:   Only if one was dumb enough to keep on 
driving it until it seized up. 
The blown rad or hose would be obvious so very little excuse for further 
abuse to the engine.

RB

On 24/11/2017 2:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> The plastic radiator necks deteriorated and snapped off.  POOF!
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
>>> likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Floyd,

    


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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

I would have thought you would see a trail of smoke behind you and have smelled 
coolant before it got hot enough to do damage


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 Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-11-25  7:57 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
mercedes@okiebenz.com, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  
Cc: Curt Raymond  Subject: Re: [MBZ] How bad would you 
have to overhear at 617 that would
  cause it not to start? 
I had the lower radiator hose clamp break while in the fast lane in heavy 
traffic at 75mph. My first hint something was wrong was when the car smelled 
hot. I looked and the gauge was pegged.I got us off the highway quick but the 
damage was done...That was a 240D, apparently Dimitri's buddy still drives it 
with the thermostat forced open...
Curt

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  On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes wrote:   Only if one was dumb enough to keep on 
driving it until it seized up. 
The blown rad or hose would be obvious so very little excuse for further 
abuse to the engine.

RB

On 24/11/2017 2:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> The plastic radiator necks deteriorated and snapped off.  POOF!
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
>>> likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Floyd,

    


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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I had the lower radiator hose clamp break while in the fast lane in heavy 
traffic at 75mph. My first hint something was wrong was when the car smelled 
hot. I looked and the gauge was pegged.I got us off the highway quick but the 
damage was done...That was a 240D, apparently Dimitri's buddy still drives it 
with the thermostat forced open...
Curt

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  On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes wrote:   Only if one was dumb enough to keep on 
driving it until it seized up. 
The blown rad or hose would be obvious so very little excuse for further 
abuse to the engine.

RB

On 24/11/2017 2:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> The plastic radiator necks deteriorated and snapped off.  POOF!
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
>>> likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Floyd,

    


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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I gather the engine fries VERY quickly once all the coolant (or oil) runs
out.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Only if one was dumb enough to keep on driving it until it seized up. The
> blown rad or hose would be obvious so very little excuse for further abuse
> to the engine.
>
> RB
>
> On 24/11/2017 2:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The plastic radiator necks deteriorated and snapped off.  POOF!
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
 likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Floyd,
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Only if one was dumb enough to keep on driving it until it seized up. 
The blown rad or hose would be obvious so very little excuse for further 
abuse to the engine.


RB

On 24/11/2017 2:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The plastic radiator necks deteriorated and snapped off.  POOF!

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
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Floyd,

   



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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Emphasis on the word "almost".

RB

On 24/11/2017 2:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Floyd,

 I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously
worked for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own
shop.  Just offering some additional information.

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale



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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

If the engine is shot I have one. Buy the car cheap and drop in the TD engine 
(and even SLS!) and yer good ta go another 600k miles!

--R
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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Floyd,
> 
> I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously worked 
> for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own shop.  
> Just offering some additional information.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Roger
> 
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The plastic radiator necks deteriorated and snapped off.  POOF!

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
> > likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Floyd,
> >>
> >> I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously
> >> worked for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his
> own
> >> shop.  Just offering some additional information.
> >>
> >> Best Wishes,
> >>
> >> Roger
> >>
> >> Roger Hale
> >> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
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> >> 770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
> likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs
> 
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Floyd,
>> 
>> I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously
>> worked for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own
>> shop.  Just offering some additional information.
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> Roger Hale
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>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Floyd,
>
>  I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously
> worked for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own
> shop.  Just offering some additional information.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Roger
>
> Roger Hale
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Floyd,

 I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously worked 
for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own shop.  Just 
offering some additional information.

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Did you overheat that?

--FT


On 11/24/17 8:55 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes wrote:

My mechanic once told me



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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

  Just some xtra info.  My mechanic once told me that if a diesel doesn't 
start and you continue trying to crank it that you will "wash down the cylinder 
walls" and lose compression and it will never start.  He said the fix is to 
remove the glow plugs, pour oil into each cylinder, replace the glow plugs and 
let it sit overnight.  He said it will now regain enough compression to start, 
assuming the glow plugs and fuel are ok and battery can spin fast enough.  It 
would seem a simple try before doing a lot of work to include replacing the 
engine.

Just a suggestion.

Best Wishes and hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving,

Roger

Roger Hale
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

There is always that risk but with a car as nice as this one appears, I 
would think that risk would be minimal.



On 11/24/2017 6:58 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

No, without a test drive there could be many other problems you cannot find.  
$500.



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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

$300, I’ll pull the engine from the 79 TD

--R
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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 7:58 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No, without a test drive there could be many other problems you cannot find.  
> $500.
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On November 23, 2017 9:03:32 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> The car seems pretty nice. Worth dropping an engine in at that price?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

No, without a test drive there could be many other problems you cannot find.  
$500.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 23, 2017 9:03:32 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>The car seems pretty nice. Worth dropping an engine in at that price?
>

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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Glow plugs, oil and filter, set the valves, fuel filters, prime the snot out of 
it (I use a pressurized garden sprayer), fire it up.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Worth a try. Always,start with KISS is how I was taught.

Dwight Giles Jr
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 23, 2017 11:06 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Adjust the valves?
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb C.
> Striplin via Mercedes 
> Sent: 23 November 2017 20:16
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> Subject: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause
> it not to start?
>
> 1977 Mercedes-Benz 300d
>
> https://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/d/1977-mercedes-benz-300d/6396378175.html
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Adjust the valves?


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



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Subject: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it 
not to start?

1977 Mercedes-Benz 300d

https://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/d/1977-mercedes-benz-300d/6396378175.html
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The car seems pretty nice. Worth dropping an engine in at that price?

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> On Nov 23, 2017, at 7:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hot enough to loose spring tension on the piston rings and lose compression.
> 
> As a low compression diesel it won't start Likely also lost camber
> on the pistons so they will slap when they go up and down... for a while...
> until the piston skirt breaks off and that shrapnel destroys the rest of
> the engine...
> 
> Cause of over-heat?  Fix that replace engine body and interior look
> as good as my one owner 300D with 102,000 mi... Should go for another
> million miles... long as the "air blows cold" right?
> 
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> 1977 Mercedes-Benz 300d
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Hot enough to loose spring tension on the piston rings and lose compression.

As a low compression diesel it won't start Likely also lost camber
on the pistons so they will slap when they go up and down... for a while...
until the piston skirt breaks off and that shrapnel destroys the rest of
the engine...

Cause of over-heat?  Fix that replace engine body and interior look
as good as my one owner 300D with 102,000 mi... Should go for another
million miles... long as the "air blows cold" right?

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[MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1977 Mercedes-Benz 300d

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