Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-07 Thread andrew strasfogel

I bought a can of Rustoleum Aluminum colored paint at Home Despot and
it does a beautiful job - just like the expensive Wurth paint.

On 5/5/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

This link shows how one guy refinished his wheels -
http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

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From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)


A buddy of mine has a client who makes all kinds of canned solvents and
 cleaners and lubes and such.  He gave me some cans  of some sort of
 citrus-y solvent that also seemed to have some kind of alcohol in it.
 It wasn't nasty and smelled pretty good, and was death on cleaning some
 brakes and wheels and other gunk on Brunnhilde.  I'll see if I can dig
 up the catalog or web site and see if I might have some of around
 somewhere.

 Otherwise, white vinegar is reported to be an excellent cleaner, a bit
 acidic but benign.

 --R

 Allan Streib wrote:
 Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
 powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
 solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
 without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
 with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
 doesn't harm the aluminum.


 There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that you
 would not want to use it outside of a controlled, industrial setting.


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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

The $3 a can silver metalic spray paint at the dollar store works perfect.


andrew strasfogel wrote:

I bought a can of Rustoleum Aluminum colored paint at Home Despot and
it does a beautiful job - just like the expensive Wurth paint.

On 5/5/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

This link shows how one guy refinished his wheels -
http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)



A buddy of mine has a client who makes all kinds of canned solvents and
cleaners and lubes and such.  He gave me some cans  of some sort of
citrus-y solvent that also seemed to have some kind of alcohol in it.
It wasn't nasty and smelled pretty good, and was death on cleaning some
brakes and wheels and other gunk on Brunnhilde.  I'll see if I can dig
up the catalog or web site and see if I might have some of around
somewhere.

Otherwise, white vinegar is reported to be an excellent cleaner, a bit
acidic but benign.

--R

Allan Streib wrote:

Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
doesn't harm the aluminum.


There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that you
would not want to use it outside of a controlled, industrial setting.



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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-07 Thread andrew strasfogel

If the Dollar Store charges the same as Home Depot it should be called the
Multiples of $1 Store.



On 5/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The $3 a can silver metalic spray paint at the dollar store works perfect.


andrew strasfogel wrote:
 I bought a can of Rustoleum Aluminum colored paint at Home Despot and
 it does a beautiful job - just like the expensive Wurth paint.

 On 5/5/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

 This link shows how one guy refinished his wheels -
 http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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 - Original Message -
 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)


 A buddy of mine has a client who makes all kinds of canned solvents
and
 cleaners and lubes and such.  He gave me some cans  of some sort of
 citrus-y solvent that also seemed to have some kind of alcohol in it.
 It wasn't nasty and smelled pretty good, and was death on cleaning
some
 brakes and wheels and other gunk on Brunnhilde.  I'll see if I can dig
 up the catalog or web site and see if I might have some of around
 somewhere.

 Otherwise, white vinegar is reported to be an excellent cleaner, a bit
 acidic but benign.

 --R

 Allan Streib wrote:
 Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
 powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
 solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
 without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
 with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
 doesn't harm the aluminum.

 There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that
you
 would not want to use it outside of a controlled, industrial setting.


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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-05 Thread LarryT
The problem with brake dust and alloy wheels - it's not just a dust that 
settles on the wheel that can be removes by cleaning.  It is a corrosive 
material that actually etches the wheel.  Think about that the next time 
you're working around the brakes - it;s best not to breathe that stuff.  So, 
typically, cleaners that work on the surface will have limited results. 
Something must be used that will work down into the corrosion.


If you have wheels which are not heavily coated with brake dust,  the best 
way to keep them that way is to hose them off once or twice a week followed 
by an ocassional coat of wax.


But to prepare the wheels for painting many people have the wheels bead 
blasted - then they are primed, color coated (Astral Silver IIRC) and clear 
coated.


Bead blasting is widely suggested as being the best way to prep the wheels.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)



On 5/3/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andrew,
Unless you plan on repainting, do not use Brillo on your bundt alloy
wheel(s)?  I tend to use Simple Green when I wash mine and this does 
quite a

good job, but yours may be worse.  Worst case scenario, without adversely
affecting the paint/clear coat, I'd try Easy-Off oven cleaner.  Good 
luck.



Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you with
BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but doesn't
harm the aluminum.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC

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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-05 Thread LarryT

http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

This link shows how one guy refinished his wheels -
http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

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From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)



A buddy of mine has a client who makes all kinds of canned solvents and
cleaners and lubes and such.  He gave me some cans  of some sort of
citrus-y solvent that also seemed to have some kind of alcohol in it.
It wasn't nasty and smelled pretty good, and was death on cleaning some
brakes and wheels and other gunk on Brunnhilde.  I'll see if I can dig
up the catalog or web site and see if I might have some of around 
somewhere.


Otherwise, white vinegar is reported to be an excellent cleaner, a bit
acidic but benign.

--R

Allan Streib wrote:

Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
doesn't harm the aluminum.



There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that you
would not want to use it outside of a controlled, industrial setting.



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[MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread Glenn Brown

Andrew,
Unless you plan on repainting, do not use Brillo on your bundt alloy
wheel(s)?  I tend to use Simple Green when I wash mine and this does quite a
good job, but yours may be worse.  Worst case scenario, without adversely
affecting the paint/clear coat, I'd try Easy-Off oven cleaner.  Good luck.

G. M. Brown
Rochester, NY


Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread andrew strasfogel

I bought some Meguiars wheel cleaner and it helped a lot.

On 5/3/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Andrew,
Unless you plan on repainting, do not use Brillo on your bundt alloy
wheel(s)?  I tend to use Simple Green when I wash mine and this does quite
a
good job, but yours may be worse.  Worst case scenario, without adversely
affecting the paint/clear coat, I'd try Easy-Off oven cleaner.  Good luck.

G. M. Brown
Rochester, NY
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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On 5/3/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andrew,
Unless you plan on repainting, do not use Brillo on your bundt alloy
wheel(s)?  I tend to use Simple Green when I wash mine and this does quite a
good job, but yours may be worse.  Worst case scenario, without adversely
affecting the paint/clear coat, I'd try Easy-Off oven cleaner.  Good luck.


Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you with
BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but doesn't
harm the aluminum.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC



Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread Allan Streib
Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
 powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
 solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
 without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
 with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
 doesn't harm the aluminum.

There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that you
would not want to use it outside of a controlled, industrial setting.

-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread Rich Thomas
A buddy of mine has a client who makes all kinds of canned solvents and 
cleaners and lubes and such.  He gave me some cans  of some sort of 
citrus-y solvent that also seemed to have some kind of alcohol in it.  
It wasn't nasty and smelled pretty good, and was death on cleaning some 
brakes and wheels and other gunk on Brunnhilde.  I'll see if I can dig 
up the catalog or web site and see if I might have some of around somewhere.


Otherwise, white vinegar is reported to be an excellent cleaner, a bit 
acidic but benign.


--R

Allan Streib wrote:

Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
doesn't harm the aluminum.



There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that you
would not want to use it outside of a controlled, industrial setting.

  


Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread R A Bennell
Anyone try the Mother's Powerball - foam doodad that you put in a drill. I see 
it advertized but have not acquired
one. I assume Mother's has some sort of cleaning stuff that they recommend to 
go with it.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)


A buddy of mine has a client who makes all kinds of canned solvents and
cleaners and lubes and such.  He gave me some cans  of some sort of
citrus-y solvent that also seemed to have some kind of alcohol in it.
It wasn't nasty and smelled pretty good, and was death on cleaning some
brakes and wheels and other gunk on Brunnhilde.  I'll see if I can dig
up the catalog or web site and see if I might have some of around somewhere.

Otherwise, white vinegar is reported to be an excellent cleaner, a bit
acidic but benign.

--R

Allan Streib wrote:
 Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
 powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
 solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
 without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
 with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
 doesn't harm the aluminum.


 There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that you
 would not want to use it outside of a controlled, industrial setting.


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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread Redghost

Ultrasonic tools to descale the rusted on dust.

Works like a charm

But I had to use lots and lots of brake cleaner instead and that ate  
the paint, so I just stripped and repainted anyway.





On May 3, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Glenn Brown wrote:


Andrew,
Unless you plan on repainting, do not use Brillo on your bundt alloy
wheel(s)?  I tend to use Simple Green when I wash mine and this  
does quite a
good job, but yours may be worse.  Worst case scenario, without  
adversely
affecting the paint/clear coat, I'd try Easy-Off oven cleaner.   
Good luck.


G. M. Brown






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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread Redghost

bead or walnut blast

cleans it fast but does not pit.


On May 4, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:


On 5/3/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andrew,
Unless you plan on repainting, do not use Brillo on your bundt alloy
wheel(s)?  I tend to use Simple Green when I wash mine and this  
does quite a
good job, but yours may be worse.  Worst case scenario, without  
adversely
affecting the paint/clear coat, I'd try Easy-Off oven cleaner.   
Good luck.



Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you with
BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but doesn't
harm the aluminum.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC

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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread Rich Thomas

This is the company that makes the stuff I mentioned:

http://www.ashburnchemical.com/FrontEnd/ProductDocs.php?rootID=2

The Citrus stuff worked well for me.  I might be able to find a can or 
two for you as they generally sell in large lots to industrial 
customers.  I had their dist catalog at one point, and even a case of 
the stuff was pretty cheap so you might want to consider getting a case.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

2007-05-04 Thread Allan Streib
Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 bead or walnut blast

 cleans it fast but does not pit.

An ultrasonic bath in something like a Simple Green solution would
probably work very well also, as someone else mentioned.

IF you have access to an ultrasonic cleaner that large

I've also used a small electric pressure washer to fairly good
effect.  Cleans the rubber too.

-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



[MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt) wheels WAS Missing fuel tank caps

2007-05-03 Thread andrew strasfogel

On another subject...

I want to clean an alloy wheel that has some suboorn caked-on brake dust
and grime.  What's the best product to do get this done (other than Brillo)?
1983 300TD
1985 300CD
I


On 5/2/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wed, 2 May 2007 16:52:28 -0400 andrew strasfogel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's sounds more expensive than what I was hoping for but thanks
 nonetheless. ;)

The parts are very inexpensive. If you have the tool, it's only tedious.


Craig

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