Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread David Brodbeck
Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote: Get a load of the luck that this poor sap has had with Honda *quality* http://cgi.ebay.ca/2001-Unsafe-Honda-Insight-Own-a-peice-of-History_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ31839QQitemZ4613284728QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW At least if the winning bidder actually pays for the th

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread l02turner
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Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread l02turner
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Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Desert Rat wrote: > If it were my MB, I would be sure it has Mobil 1 in the crankcase and > change it out right now. It does have M1 in the crankcase -j.

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread Desert Rat
John, not to alarm you but there has been some real problems with MB and the early FSS (started in 98) system and not using Mobil 1. Sludging and engine damage resulted from these extended oil change intervals. MB lost a lawsuit and now have extended the warranties and picked up engine repairs for

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread Sunil Hari
First, what's an FSS car, and what's an FSS counter? Second, my parents bought a 1997 Civic brand-new, and now with 115Kmi the only thing I've paid to replace is an idler pulley ($105). Everything else has been maintenance items or under warranty. My parents also bought a 2000 Accord brand-new a

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Curt Raymond wrote: > It's not just the Toyotas and Hondas, - when I owned a MB parts & > accessories mail order business I heard all kinds of things -- people would > say, "It's an $80,000 automobile - I should *never* have to check or add > oil!!"

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
the oil, added any oil or anything. That engine lasted like 20kmi... So the engine was replaced, then she checked the oil and just kept adding as it went down. In something like 30k she was back at the shop for engine #3... -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:29:53 -0600 From: Robert & Tara

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread l02turner
members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: "Robert & Tara Ludwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-25 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
. So the engine was replaced, then she checked the oil and just kept adding as it went down. In something like 30k she was back at the shop for engine #3... -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:29:53 -0600 From: Robert & Tara Ludwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond
ll I slid it through traffic with no worries. When I went looking for a new car I considered first the Mazda, then the Nissan and Honda, then saved my money and got my 190D. -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:23:34 -0800 From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sub

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-14 Thread David Brodbeck
Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote: I'm beginning to think that all the hype on Toyotas and Hondas is just a byproduct of sheer numbers. I think it's more a perception left over from a couple of decades ago when the quality of the domestic makes was very bad. Hondas and Toyotas were extremely well

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-14 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
IL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB << If I am not mistaken, buyers of new Hyundai automobiles were happier with them last year than purchasers of new MB automobiles.>. Keep in mind that the exp

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-14 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
I know what you mean about the Kia. I had to rent a Kia Reo in Manchester NH airport and drive it to Augusta maine. By the time I got there I was in so much pain I couldn't even get out of the thing, and I was completely worn out from trying to keep the little rattle trap on the road. It onl

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-13 Thread R A Bennell
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB << If I am not mistaken, buyers of new Hyundai automobiles were happier with them last year than purchasers of new MB automobiles.>. Keep in mind that the expectations

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-13 Thread Gary Hurst
jaguar's drove nice too. bosch makes lucas look lke pure genius On 2/13/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Monday, February 13, 2006, at 05:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: > > > mercedes is the jaguar of the 21st century. in terms of long term > > performance and support, i'd buy a n

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-13 Thread John Berryman
On Monday, February 13, 2006, at 05:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: mercedes is the jaguar of the 21st century. in terms of long term performance and support, i'd buy a new Hyundai over a new Mercedes any day of the week Probably not if you ever drove one. I got stuck wth a Kia Sedona or whate

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-13 Thread Gary Hurst
mercedes is the jaguar of the 21st century. in terms of long term performance and support, i'd buy a new Hyundai over a new Mercedes any day of the week On 2/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > << If I am not mistaken, buyers of new Hyundai automobiles were happier > with > th

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-13 Thread Loren Faeth
and they get burned to a crisp if it hits something. At 03:19 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: << If I am not mistaken, buyers of new Hyundai automobiles were happier with them last year than purchasers of new MB automobiles.>. Keep in mind that the expectations of a Hyundai or Kia buyer are probably a

[MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-13 Thread RELNGSON
<< If I am not mistaken, buyers of new Hyundai automobiles were happier with them last year than purchasers of new MB automobiles.>. Keep in mind that the expectations of a Hyundai or Kia buyer are probably a bit lower that an MB buyer. As one example, look at the newest Corolla. I drove an Ent