Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-04 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Michael,
As afar as I know is still for sale-he's been trying for a couple
years-started at 3500.
I think you saw most of what we know- 3 of us NE listers have looked at
it or drove it. Somewhere on one of my half dead computers, I have
pictures  that John Peterson took. E-mail me off list and I'll end them
to you  and the guy's phone number. He doesn't really know anything
about  the car-he is selling it for his wife. Did you see Curt Ryamond's
posts as well as mine about what we found? I really wanted the car-but
not practical for me as I don't have a garage, time to work on it, etc.
What are you driving now? 
Dwight

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


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So its still for sale?  Can I get some more info?

Mike

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Hey Curt,
Well he plans to put it back on the market this Spring-I will watch 
post. He seems wedded to the price-or his wife does. My guess is that 
1200 would take it before he gets it out of the barn this spring. Also 
needs brake work-

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


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Hi Dwight welcome back.

  I also looked at that CD but didn't drive it. Based on what Dwight 
says and I saw for $800 it'd be a pretty good car, for any more the 
deal declines rapidly. I think the light blue is one of the nicest 
colors I've ever seen on a car, thats what my wagon was and I was 
sorely tempted with that CD.

  -Curt

  Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:06:51 -0500
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Around here in New England 300CD's do seem to be rare. Fellow lister 
John Peterson and I found one-a good 15 foot car-but had window seal 
issues, trany had shift and slip issues-some of the slip may hve been 
due to dragging brakes. Could be had for about 1500. It is stored in a 
heated garage. Seems to be not quite pristine ecnogh for a collector 
and too many mechanical questions to be a cheap dialy driver. But it is

a sweet looking car-baby blue,no visible rust from 10'. Could be a good
project though for the right owner. Nice to be back on the list. Dwight
Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI




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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-04 Thread B Dike
Kevin,
  
  The 300CD could be a very good deal.  Most oil leaks are easy to fix. 
  
  Also,  I need your head...cylinder head from the 220D, that is, for my 220D 
project.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Bruce

kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm thinking of checking this one out.  
Here's the link to it on CL.

http://portland.craigslist.org/car/138182748.html


This is what the guy wrote in his response.

I have had this car for about 2 years.  It is an automatic.  Has always been 
on the road.  The only major work I had done to it was to have the 
steering/ignition
lock replaced when it broke.  Brakes are ok, transmission has a little 
slipping but hasn't been a problem, no leaking..  Went to Yakama last summer 
and
it took the mountains OK.  Pretty strong engine.  Mileage has always been 
around 15-20, usually closer to 20.

Interior is not leather, I've got covers for the front seats, back seats 
don't need them.  Most gages work.  Vacuum system is not hooked up.  Great 
heater,
air conditioner not filled.

THE PROBLEM:  Has suddenly sprung an oil leak.  Always used a little oil but 
this is something else.  Not sure where it originates.  Uses about a quart
of oil every 40 miles and looses oil when parked.  My guy says he can't tell 
where it is coming from without getting into it.  I don't have the time, 
talent
or cash to get into it right now.  My guy figures seals.

I know that it is a rare turbio diesel 300CD, but is this one that could be 
somethin', or a junkyard fugitive?

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1973 220D parting out 


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82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'
73 220D 'It'

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 Well Craig did it to me! After looking at his link I had to get a Lister
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Oh, boy! Now I've done it!

Actually, you have Rory to thank.


 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biodieseltolarea/

On one post, you say, I have not started to make bio this year yet.
Most of the oil is still solid. I have talked to a few people that would
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What is the connection of glycerin to driveways?



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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-03 Thread David Brodbeck

ernest breakfield wrote:

   why would someone *not* fix the AC?


Probably because Portland's climate is (I think) a lot like Seattle's, 
which means you might only really want A/C for two or three weeks out of 
the year.  Not worth the cost, especially when it's just going to die 
again of disuse.




Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
We're spoiled because the 1980s (not including the bulletproof 1985 models)
AT in 300 turbodiesels ONLY last about 140,000 miles.  I'm on my third AT
(274K miles) in a 1983 300TD but it I am not complaining because the car is
such a joy to drive.

On 3/2/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ernest breakfield wrote:
 why would someone *not* fix the AC?

 Probably because Portland's climate is (I think) a lot like Seattle's,
 which means you might only really want A/C for two or three weeks out of
 the year.  Not worth the cost, especially when it's just going to die
 again of disuse.

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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-03 Thread Marshall Booth

andrew strasfogel wrote:

We're spoiled because the 1980s (not including the bulletproof 1985 models)
AT in 300 turbodiesels ONLY last about 140,000 miles.  I'm on my third AT
(274K miles) in a 1983 300TD but it I am not complaining because the car is
such a joy to drive.


I don't know what's wrong transmissions with some regions of the 
country, but 722.3 series transmissions in Pittsburgh usually to give 
250+kmi of service. More if the car is primarily highway driven. You can 
wreck them sooner if you work at it, and they MAY start to leak (but 
still shift fine as long as you kept them topped up) after 15-20 years 
of service irrespective of mileage.


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[MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread kevin kraly

I'm thinking of checking this one out.  Here's the link to it on CL.

http://portland.craigslist.org/car/138182748.html


This is what the guy wrote in his response.

I have had this car for about 2 years.  It is an automatic.  Has always been 
on the road.  The only major work I had done to it was to have the 
steering/ignition
lock replaced when it broke.  Brakes are ok, transmission has a little 
slipping but hasn't been a problem, no leaking..  Went to Yakama last summer 
and
it took the mountains OK.  Pretty strong engine.  Mileage has always been 
around 15-20, usually closer to 20.


Interior is not leather, I've got covers for the front seats, back seats 
don't need them.  Most gages work.  Vacuum system is not hooked up.  Great 
heater,

air conditioner not filled.

THE PROBLEM:  Has suddenly sprung an oil leak.  Always used a little oil but 
this is something else.  Not sure where it originates.  Uses about a quart
of oil every 40 miles and looses oil when parked.  My guy says he can't tell 
where it is coming from without getting into it.  I don't have the time, 
talent

or cash to get into it right now.  My guy figures seals.

I know that it is a rare turbio diesel 300CD, but is this one that could be 
somethin', or a junkyard fugitive?


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1973 220D parting out 





Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Sunil Hari
these cars aren't -that- rare, but they're definitely fun to drive.  Rarer
are the wagons, but if that isn't your bag then the coupes are nice.  Oil
leaks could be 20 minutes or 5 hours to fix; it just depends on where.

On 3/2/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm thinking of checking this one out.  Here's the link to it on CL.

 http://portland.craigslist.org/car/138182748.html


 This is what the guy wrote in his response.

 I have had this car for about 2 years.  It is an automatic.  Has always
 been
 on the road.  The only major work I had done to it was to have the
 steering/ignition
 lock replaced when it broke.  Brakes are ok, transmission has a little
 slipping but hasn't been a problem, no leaking..  Went to Yakama last
 summer
 and
 it took the mountains OK.  Pretty strong engine.  Mileage has always been
 around 15-20, usually closer to 20.

 Interior is not leather, I've got covers for the front seats, back seats
 don't need them.  Most gages work.  Vacuum system is not hooked up.  Great
 heater,
 air conditioner not filled.

 THE PROBLEM:  Has suddenly sprung an oil leak.  Always used a little oil
 but
 this is something else.  Not sure where it originates.  Uses about a quart
 of oil every 40 miles and looses oil when parked.  My guy says he can't
 tell
 where it is coming from without getting into it.  I don't have the time,
 talent
 or cash to get into it right now.  My guy figures seals.

 I know that it is a rare turbio diesel 300CD, but is this one that could
 be
 somethin', or a junkyard fugitive?

 Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

 1973 220D parting out


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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:44 AM, Sunil Hari wrote:

these cars aren't -that- rare, but they're definitely fun to  
drive.  Rarer

are the wagons, but if that isn't your bag then the coupes are nice.



	Around here the're not. I have 6 300TDs and only 2 300CDs. I will be  
parting a 123 300TD next weekend. Has a saggy rear end that pumps up.  
Lots of goodies, I'll keep y'all posted. I'm keeping engine. Trans  
already has a home.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Around here in New England 300CD's do seem to be rare. Fellow lister
John Peterson and I found one-a good 15 foot car-but had window seal
issues, trany had shift and slip issues-some of the slip may hve been
due to dragging brakes. Could be had for about 1500. It is stored in a
heated garage. Seems to be not quite pristine ecnogh for a collector and
too many mechanical questions to be a cheap dialy driver. But it is a
sweet looking car-baby blue,no visible rust from 10'. Could be a good
project though for the right owner.
Nice to be back on the list.
Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


-s aren't -that- rare, but they're definitely fun to
 drive.  

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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Luther Gulseth
I'd bet money that it's oil cooler line or oil filter canister gasket 
related.
Luther

~I'm thinking of checking this one out.  Here's the link to it on CL.
~
~http://portland.craigslist.org/car/138182748.html
~
~
~This is what the guy wrote in his response.
~
~I have had this car for about 2 years.  It is an automatic.  Has always been 
~on the road.  The only major work I had done to it was to have the 
~steering/ignition
~lock replaced when it broke.  Brakes are ok, transmission has a little 
~slipping but hasn't been a problem, no leaking..  Went to Yakama last summer 
~and
~it took the mountains OK.  Pretty strong engine.  Mileage has always been 
~around 15-20, usually closer to 20.
~
~Interior is not leather, I've got covers for the front seats, back seats 
~don't need them.  Most gages work.  Vacuum system is not hooked up.  Great 
~heater,
~air conditioner not filled.
~
~THE PROBLEM:  Has suddenly sprung an oil leak.  Always used a little oil but 
~this is something else.  Not sure where it originates.  Uses about a quart
~of oil every 40 miles and looses oil when parked.  My guy says he can't tell 
~where it is coming from without getting into it.  I don't have the time, 
~talent
~or cash to get into it right now.  My guy figures seals.
~
~I know that it is a rare turbio diesel 300CD, but is this one that could be 
~somethin', or a junkyard fugitive?
~
~Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
~
~1973 220D parting out 
~
~




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Alma, Ark 
'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) 
'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work



Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Jim Cathey

http://portland.craigslist.org/car/138182748.html
...  Pretty strong engine.  Mileage has always been
around 15-20, usually closer to 20.


That's stinky.  Something's wrong there.  The coupes are nice
looking cars, and relatively rare in general.  Looking at the
picture it seems to be similar looking to my recent acquisition.
So, is it worth $450 more than the 240D I just bought?  Probably,
but either car might be a money pit in disguise.  Still, that's
the big gamble with these things!  (Cars, I mean.)

Is a coupe the right car for you?  A good question to have the
answer to.  No, if back seat activity is important.  Not the
best family car, in other words.

Condition, condition, condition.  If the thing will clean
up acceptably, _everything_ else can be dealt with fairly
cheaply DIY, with patience and care.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Rich Thomas

Run away, it's another looser.

--R

kevin kraly wrote:


Uses about a quart
of oil every 40 miles and looses oil when parked.  
 






Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Hey Curt,
Well he plans to put it back on the market this Spring-I will watch
post. He seems wedded to the price-or his wife does. My guess is that
1200 would take it before he gets it out of the barn this spring. Also
needs brake work-

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD


Hi Dwight welcome back.
   
  I also looked at that CD but didn't drive it. Based on what Dwight
says and I saw for $800 it'd be a pretty good car, for any more the deal
declines rapidly. I think the light blue is one of the nicest colors
I've ever seen on a car, thats what my wagon was and I was sorely
tempted with that CD.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:06:51 -0500
From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Around here in New England 300CD's do seem to be rare. Fellow lister
John Peterson and I found one-a good 15 foot car-but had window seal
issues, trany had shift and slip issues-some of the slip may hve been
due to dragging brakes. Could be had for about 1500. It is stored in a
heated garage. Seems to be not quite pristine ecnogh for a collector 
and
too many mechanical questions to be a cheap dialy driver. But it is a
sweet looking car-baby blue,no visible rust from 10'. Could be a good
project though for the right owner. Nice to be back on the list. Dwight
Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI




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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread ernest breakfield
Kevin,

   depends; how much is he willing to pay you to take it?   ;-)

   about 8K turbo CDs were brought to the USA according to the figures
i've seen. whether or not that's rare in your book is relative.
   with all the things you list being out of wack it would appear that
this vehicle wasn't likely to have been owned by someone who cared for
it and took care of it as (i would think) it should have been.

   clues: why would someone *not* fix the vacuum issue? that means that
the front seats probably don't even lock down in place; a feature
unique to the coupes. that's a potential safety issue to me; and
indicative of that owners priorities,...
   why would someone *not* fix the AC? even if the issue was only that it
needed to be refilled and they didn't even do that, without freon the
seals in the system will dry out and become brittle, potentially
necessitating a complete rebuild of the entire system before it will
work properly and hold a charge again. this also means (amongst other
things) that the defroster dry air and won't work properly; probably
not something you'd consider optional in your area. price out the
repairs on that rebuild, and you'll run away screaming.
   transmission has a little slipping? could be simple, could be much
worse.
   *most* gages work? which ones don't, and why not?

   if you have many thousands of dollars set aside to repair a vehicle
that has an absolutely perfect chassis but needs lots of other help, it
*might* be worth taking, but this doesn't sound likely.
   bottom line, this doesn't sound like a car somebody cared about the way
i'd want someone to if i was thinking of buying from them.


cheers!
e


 I'm thinking of checking this one out.  Here's the link to it on CL.

 http://portland.craigslist.org/car/138182748.html


 This is what the guy wrote in his response.

 I have had this car for about 2 years.  It is an automatic.  Has always
 been
 on the road.  The only major work I had done to it was to have the
 steering/ignition
 lock replaced when it broke.  Brakes are ok, transmission has a little
 slipping but hasn't been a problem, no leaking..  Went to Yakama last
 summer
 and
 it took the mountains OK.  Pretty strong engine.  Mileage has always been
 around 15-20, usually closer to 20.

 Interior is not leather, I've got covers for the front seats, back seats
 don't need them.  Most gages work.  Vacuum system is not hooked up.  Great
 heater,
 air conditioner not filled.

 THE PROBLEM:  Has suddenly sprung an oil leak.  Always used a little oil
 but
 this is something else.  Not sure where it originates.  Uses about a quart
 of oil every 40 miles and looses oil when parked.  My guy says he can't
 tell
 where it is coming from without getting into it.  I don't have the time,
 talent
 or cash to get into it right now.  My guy figures seals.

 I know that it is a rare turbio diesel 300CD, but is this one that could
 be
 somethin', or a junkyard fugitive?

 Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

 1973 220D parting out


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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread R A Bennell
Because most people don't think a car over 5 years old is worth investing
$$ into and cannot do it themselves. We who pump $$ into old cars and work
on them ourselves are a strange breed.

Randy B

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Kevin,

   depends; how much is he willing to pay you to take it?   ;-)

   about 8K turbo CDs were brought to the USA according to the figures
i've seen. whether or not that's rare in your book is relative.
   with all the things you list being out of wack it would appear that
this vehicle wasn't likely to have been owned by someone who cared for
it and took care of it as (i would think) it should have been.

   clues: why would someone *not* fix the vacuum issue? that means that
the front seats probably don't even lock down in place; a feature
unique to the coupes. that's a potential safety issue to me; and
indicative of that owners priorities,...
   why would someone *not* fix the AC? even if the issue was only that it
needed to be refilled and they didn't even do that, without freon the
seals in the system will dry out and become brittle, potentially
necessitating a complete rebuild of the entire system before it will
work properly and hold a charge again. this also means (amongst other
things) that the defroster dry air and won't work properly; probably
not something you'd consider optional in your area. price out the
repairs on that rebuild, and you'll run away screaming.
   transmission has a little slipping? could be simple, could be much
worse.
   *most* gages work? which ones don't, and why not?

   if you have many thousands of dollars set aside to repair a vehicle
that has an absolutely perfect chassis but needs lots of other help, it
*might* be worth taking, but this doesn't sound likely.
   bottom line, this doesn't sound like a car somebody cared about the way
i'd want someone to if i was thinking of buying from them.


cheers!
e


 I'm thinking of checking this one out.  Here's the link to it on CL.

 http://portland.craigslist.org/car/138182748.html


 This is what the guy wrote in his response.

 I have had this car for about 2 years.  It is an automatic.  Has always
 been
 on the road.  The only major work I had done to it was to have the
 steering/ignition
 lock replaced when it broke.  Brakes are ok, transmission has a little
 slipping but hasn't been a problem, no leaking..  Went to Yakama last
 summer
 and
 it took the mountains OK.  Pretty strong engine.  Mileage has always been
 around 15-20, usually closer to 20.

 Interior is not leather, I've got covers for the front seats, back seats
 don't need them.  Most gages work.  Vacuum system is not hooked up.  Great
 heater,
 air conditioner not filled.

 THE PROBLEM:  Has suddenly sprung an oil leak.  Always used a little oil
 but
 this is something else.  Not sure where it originates.  Uses about a quart
 of oil every 40 miles and looses oil when parked.  My guy says he can't
 tell
 where it is coming from without getting into it.  I don't have the time,
 talent
 or cash to get into it right now.  My guy figures seals.

 I know that it is a rare turbio diesel 300CD, but is this one that could
 be
 somethin', or a junkyard fugitive?

 Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

 1973 220D parting out


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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Brian Chase
Question: Is the auto tranny an issue in the Coupes specifically? (not sure 
why it'd be peculiar to the Coupe, - just asking). Or is this common in a 
lot of auto tranny 300Ds?


The 300 CD we looked at in AZ had shifting issues too. He said it was 
slipping, but the dealer fixed it. Later, he neglected to mention the 
dealer part.


When we rode in it, it shifted very hard, seemed it wanted to chirp the 
tires. I did notice, though, that it was something like a pint - a quart low 
on ATF. But he said it had had shifting issues for some time.


Brian
83 240D

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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

Question: Is the auto tranny an issue in the Coupes specifically?  
(not sure
why it'd be peculiar to the Coupe, - just asking). Or is this  
common in a

lot of auto tranny 300Ds?



Same tranny.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread kevin kraly
Now that you put it that way, he would have to pay me around $3K to take it 
off his hands!  I do like the look of the 300CD's, but not the back seat 
room.  Now that I have a crew cab pickup which is big enough to hold 
everyone and the doggies, it would be just a fun car anyway.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1973 220D parting out, but no bites yet 





Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Don't know what the asking price is, but it better be under $1 K due to the
many issues that need attenditon.

On 3/2/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

  Question: Is the auto tranny an issue in the Coupes specifically?
  (not sure
  why it'd be peculiar to the Coupe, - just asking). Or is this
  common in a
  lot of auto tranny 300Ds?
 

Same tranny.

 Johnny B.
 I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread kevin kraly
I'd bet money that it's oil cooler line or oil filter canister gasket 
related.


Couldn't it also be the turbo drain tube seals?  losing a qt every 40 miles 
would indicate that it's high pressure oil loss or maybe even burning it 
although oil CONSUMPTION wasn't mentioned.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1973 220D parting out 





Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Brian Chase

I figured it was the same tranny.

So I guess the question becomes: Are the auto trannies in Mercedes diesels 
(particularly early - mid-eighties) often a problem? Do they not live up to 
the legendary longevity of the engines? I'm glad that I have a manual 
tranny, but the wife is enamored with the Coupes since we checked that one 
out.


Brian
83 240D


From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:27:33 -0500


On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

 Question: Is the auto tranny an issue in the Coupes specifically?
 (not sure
 why it'd be peculiar to the Coupe, - just asking). Or is this
 common in a
 lot of auto tranny 300Ds?


Same tranny.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Luther Gulseth
True, but how much oil will leak out of the turbo return line after the engine 
is off.  They said it leaks a lot when sitting

~I'd bet money that it's oil cooler line or oil filter canister gasket 
~related.
~
~Couldn't it also be the turbo drain tube seals?  losing a qt every 40 miles 
~would indicate that it's high pressure oil loss or maybe even burning it 
~although oil CONSUMPTION wasn't mentioned.
~
~Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
~1973 220D parting out 
~
~



-- 
Luther KB5QHU 
Alma, Ark 
'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) 
'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work



Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Brian Chase wrote:


I figured it was the same tranny.

So I guess the question becomes: Are the auto trannies in Mercedes  
diesels
(particularly early - mid-eighties) often a problem? Do they not  
live up to

the legendary longevity of the engines? I'm glad that I have a manual
tranny, but the wife is enamored with the Coupes since we checked  
that one

out.

Brian



	They're pretty bullet-proof. Most problems stem from vacuum and  
adjustment issues. The venerable B2 piston, K1 and K2 valve body  
spring kits. They usually stand-up to a long hard life.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:

True, but how much oil will leak out of the turbo return line after  
the engine is off.  They said it leaks a lot when sitting



It could be that it is running down after the fact.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Jim Cathey
So I guess the question becomes: Are the auto trannies in Mercedes 
diesels

(particularly early - mid-eighties) often a problem?


Yes.


Do they not live up to
the legendary longevity of the engines?


They do not.  They are by far the weakest link in the drivetrain.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Jim Cathey

When we rode in it, it shifted very hard, seemed it wanted to chirp the
tires. I did notice, though, that it was something like a pint - a 
quart low

on ATF. But he said it had had shifting issues for some time.


It was probably flaring and they disconnected the vacuum line altogether
resulting in its hardest shifting.  (Which is none too hard in the 
Chicken

Wagon where we've also done this.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Brian Chase
Good info. I'd wondered about the auto trannies in these autos. Didn't know 
if they were good or bad or somewhere inbetween. This is the main reason I 
love the peace of mind of a standard. My 727 Torqueflite auto, though, is 
known in the biz as bulletproof. Why am I getting rid of that car again?


The seller of the CD we test drove claimed it was a Borg Warner transmission 
and tough as nails. But he said a lot of stuff - he is a jewelry and fine 
metals salesman. Well, he could be a great guy, I'm just saying he's a 
salesman, so he was giving quite a pitch.


Brian
83 240D
68 Dodge Coronet 500


From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:31:45 -0800

 When we rode in it, it shifted very hard, seemed it wanted to chirp the
 tires. I did notice, though, that it was something like a pint - a
 quart low
 on ATF. But he said it had had shifting issues for some time.

It was probably flaring and they disconnected the vacuum line altogether
resulting in its hardest shifting.  (Which is none too hard in the
Chicken
Wagon where we've also done this.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Jim Cathey
Good info. I'd wondered about the auto trannies in these autos. Didn't 
know

if they were good or bad or somewhere inbetween.


They're good, certainly when compared to the ones in some mommyvans
I've heard of.  It's just when compared to the engines, which are
_great_, they don't fare quite so well.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-02 Thread Michael Hall
So its still for sale?  Can I get some more info?

Mike

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On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

Hey Curt,
Well he plans to put it back on the market this Spring-I will watch
post. He seems wedded to the price-or his wife does. My guess is that
1200 would take it before he gets it out of the barn this spring. Also
needs brake work-

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD


Hi Dwight welcome back.

  I also looked at that CD but didn't drive it. Based on what Dwight
says and I saw for $800 it'd be a pretty good car, for any more the deal
declines rapidly. I think the light blue is one of the nicest colors
I've ever seen on a car, thats what my wagon was and I was sorely
tempted with that CD.

  -Curt

  Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:06:51 -0500
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Around here in New England 300CD's do seem to be rare. Fellow lister
John Peterson and I found one-a good 15 foot car-but had window seal
issues, trany had shift and slip issues-some of the slip may hve been
due to dragging brakes. Could be had for about 1500. It is stored in a
heated garage. Seems to be not quite pristine ecnogh for a collector
and
too many mechanical questions to be a cheap dialy driver. But it is a
sweet looking car-baby blue,no visible rust from 10'. Could be a good
project though for the right owner. Nice to be back on the list. Dwight
Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI




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