Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-26 Thread redghost
Feller up the street a ways has a blue dodge pick me up. Same year as the take over at chrysler. He installed a star on the trunk and uses the hub caps in the same color as the truck. Took me forever to figure out what he had done and why it may be ok for him to have done that. On

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-25 Thread OK Don
I only pop up the rear end of the rof in the SDL - it let's out the hot air from sitting closed in the sun well enough (with the windows down also). Someday when I have nothing better to do, I'll clean the tracks and apply that magic lubricant On 3/24/06, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: I'd like to have one but have been told that almost nobody can afford to keep an old Saab. Aside from the Bosch k-jetronic problems, most of which usually don't happen to cars that are driven regularly, where did you get that idea? Very easy cars to work on, and the parts

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread Hendrik Riessen
That must be an early product of the Daimler Chrysler merger. Hendrik - Original Message - From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Had another look at the pic and noticed the little stickers near the rear vision mirror. Hendrik - Original Message - From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs Jim

[MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-24 Thread wilton strickland
I should have said, I couldn't FIND a GOOD USED 124 or 126 without sunroof. BTW, it's OK for some of us to like 'em and others to not like 'em. That's why we have different names. One is no more RIGHT than the other. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-24 Thread jjayj
timeout for some help...please! i put a new rubber seal around my sunroof last fall after having the roof section drop at high speeds after a bump...it came ajar the new seal went in tight and doesn't drop...but it seems there is quite a bit of wind noise on the freeway... any way to solve

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-24 Thread Jim Cathey
i put a new rubber seal around my sunroof last fall after having the roof section drop at high speeds after a bump...it came ajar the new seal went in tight and doesn't drop...but it seems there is quite a bit of wind noise on the freeway... The seal doesn't have anything to do with the

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-24 Thread OK Don
Right on! Nailed it! An earlier post mentioned something about welding and bondo-ing to hide a sun roof - I've been thinking about doing just that to the leaky one in the SLC - it won't open, and the other end of the drains are WELL hidden behind the rear window trim. (P.S. - even though I wore

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread OK Don
Of the seven that have owned me, six had/have sunroofs, and three leaked miserably. Blowing/cleaning out the drains on the 115 cars was a temporary fix. The SLC is about to make me mad --- On 3/23/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Potter, Tom E wrote: Why anyone would cut a hole in

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread David Brodbeck
John Ervine wrote: Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Honestly, I was laughing too hard to make it across the road to check it out. They remind me of the insignia you see painted on WWII-era aircraft, to signify kills.

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread David Brodbeck
I always thought sunroofs were silly until I had a car with one. Now I'm pretty fond of them. I've had two cars with one, a Honda Civic and my 300D. Neither of them have ever leaked, even in high-pressure car washes. I've heard speculation that the culprit when it comes to leaky sunroofs

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread ned kleinhenz
I agree with both sides. As much as I enjoy an open sunroof, they are a maintenance PITA. What I really miss is the sunroof on an old Saab 99 I once owned. It was a modern sliding steel hatch, but it had no mechanisms, no cables, no motors, almost nothing to fail. To open it, you just reach up,

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread Sunil Hari
On w123 cars and earlier, some of them (240D's and 300TD's come to mind) had manual sliding roofs - just lower the latch, spin around to unlock, and slide back. Reverse to close and lock shut. Really really simple, very robust. No tricks to latch shut, either. Swedish engineering - ha! On

[MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-24 Thread wilton strickland
OK Don, I wore chute all the time in B-52; certainly never TEMPTED to jump for the fun of it, but was prepared to punch out if necessary only. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-24 Thread jjayj
jeepers, jim...throw me a bone here... -- Original message -- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] i put a new rubber seal around my sunroof last fall after having the roof section drop at high speeds after a bump...it came ajar the new seal went in tight and

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 23, 2006, at 10:56 PM, ned kleinhenz wrote: Compared to new Saabs, that old one was so simple and robust. Guess it is the same situation for Mercedes. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD Doesn't your TD have a manual sunroof? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread David Brodbeck
Sunil Hari wrote: Swedish engineering - ha! I discovered a while back that 'Swedish engineering' has the same connotations for Finns that 'Polish engineering' would for us English speakers. I do kinda prefer the Swedish 'pull up on the ring' reverse lock-outs to the German 'push down

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 3/23/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do kinda prefer the Swedish 'pull up on the ring' reverse lock-outs to the German 'push down on the shift lever' ones, although the former are admittedly much harder to operate when wearing mittens. I loved the front seatbelt buckles in

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread ned kleinhenz
Doesn't your TD have a manual sunroof? The 1980 300TD - NO Sunroof. Is that unusual? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread Neal Kramarcy
Ned, My 1980 300TD has a manual sunroof. Works great, locks in place. Neal 1980 300TD 375K, but getting tired ned kleinhenz wrote: Doesn't your TD have a manual sunroof? The 1980 300TD - NO Sunroof. Is that unusual? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 24, 2006, at 8:32 AM, ned kleinhenz wrote: The 1980 300TD - NO Sunroof. Is that unusual? Ned Kleinhenz Yes, although I have one 1984 300TD without and had a 1982 purchased in South Carolina without one too. I can't even count how many TDs have passed through my hands (I

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Mar 2006 19:26:13 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I always thought sunroofs were silly until I had a car

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread Curt Raymond
] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sunil Hari wrote: Swedish engineering - ha! I discovered a while back that 'Swedish engineering' has the same

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread Curt Raymond
: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I loved the front seatbelt buckles in my late lamented 1980 Saab 900, which consisted of a sort of swinging arm, at the top of a fixed post next

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-24 Thread Jim Cathey
jeepers, jim...throw me a bone here... Sorry dude! If it jumped on a bump something is broken. Our SDL's sunroof blew chunks out of its mechanism, but we were able to convince it to shut properly once more. I just unplugged it. Maybe someday... -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-24 Thread Marshall Booth
ned kleinhenz wrote: Doesn't your TD have a manual sunroof? The 1980 300TD - NO Sunroof. Is that unusual? Most 1980 300TDs delivered in the US came with a sunroof (mine did). Later (by 1982 when I bought another new 300TD) the sunroof was standard equipment, but in 1980 it might not have

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-24 Thread Peter T . Arnold
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:09:14 -0800, you wrote: jeepers, jim...throw me a bone here... Sorry dude! If it jumped on a bump something is broken. Our SDL's sunroof blew chunks out of its mechanism, but we were able to convince it to shut properly once more. I just unplugged it. Maybe someday...

[MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Bondo is a helluva lot cheaper than new gaskets. RLE

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Peter Frederick
If the sunroof leaks, check for a deteriorated drain pan or plugged drains (all four corners, drains out the doorposts. The sunroof gasket is a fiber faced thing, it does NOT seal out water. The water is collected by the drain pan and drained out four plastic pipes to the ground. If they

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Potter, Tom E
(aka leaky rust initiators) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Bondo

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Marshall Booth
Potter, Tom E wrote: Why anyone would cut a hole in the top of a perfectly good vehicle is beyond me! I did find them handy here in Texas. When you first get in the vehicle, you can open the sunroof to let the hot air out quickly. You then have to close it so you can operate the AC. I've

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Leave them closed, service them not. Unplug the connector. Voila! DBAG would build

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Marshall Booth
Potter, Tom E wrote: Doc, Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Not saddled at all! Mercedes offered all the US models at

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
I strongly disagree! A sliding roof is one of the great joys of Mercedes optiondom. Nothing beats it for ventilation, esp. on a hot day when the temp. can exceed 160 inside a car parked in the sun. In fact, it's almost a necessity. [flames sure to follow]. On 3/23/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Were you the one guy? Did the idiot sell MBs for a living? No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. -- Jim

[MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-23 Thread wilton strickland
The practical engineer part of me also can't understand why anyone would cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top, then pay mucho $ for it. I've never opened the ridiculous sun roofs on my 124 and 126 - 'wish they didn't have 'em. 'Couldn't get 124 and 126 without 'em. Wilton (P. S. 'Also

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread John Ervine
Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance:

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari
I thought you could get a 124 or 126 without a sliding roof, BUT you had to specially order it from the factory, then wait 6-8 weeks for your car to be built and shipped over. That, or you take Euro delivery. Marshall, what's the official word? On 3/23/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari
That picture made me laugh so hard, I peed a little. On 3/23/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Chuck Landenberger
John, Your website is great.. Can relate to the pix of the 300SD.. Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Chuck Phoenix AZ 1986 190E 2.3 16V 1980 300SD On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:57 PM, John Ervine wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: No, I

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread John Ervine
Chuck Landenberger wrote: John, Your website is great.. Can relate to the pix of the 300SD.. Glad you like it! Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Honestly, I was laughing too hard to make it across the road to check it