Re: [MBZ] MB coolant and the 'green stuff'
out was green. It came that way been in there at least 2 - 3 years. Any damage is done, as is the effective life of the additive package. Flush and replace it with something better, and pray that nothing bad has happened already. (Corrosion, resulting in clogging, overheating, and/or leaking.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant and the 'green stuff'
George Larribeau wrote: I now have MB 'pail yellow' coolant in my 85 300SD. However the stuff I took out was green. It came that way been in there at least 2 - 3 years. If this stuff is detrimental to the radiator what should I be looking for? Something obvious like leaks, or some thing less obvious like clogs and / or loss of efficiency? The green stuff has done what it's done. Nothing to do about it. When the radiator finally breaks or leaks, then you do something! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
[MBZ] MB coolant and the 'green stuff'
I now have MB 'pail yellow' coolant in my 85 300SD. However the stuff I took out was green. It came that way been in there at least 2 - 3 years. If this stuff is detrimental to the radiator what should I be looking for? Something obvious like leaks, or some thing less obvious like clogs and / or loss of efficiency? George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
on 6/16/06 2:21 PM, John Berryman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The jug is clearly marked G-05 I'm pretty sure the jug is a goldish > color. Yes, at least here in Canada it's completely different from the regular Zerex jug. Mac
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
On Jun 16, 2006, at 1:21 PM, George Larribeau wrote: Now G-05 is not the only antifreeze product from Zerex, right? Must be sure that it is G-05? Is there a MB spec number on the bottle that indicates some documentation / requirement that it meets? Or is this info only findable from the manufacture? The jug is clearly marked G-05 I'm pretty sure the jug is a goldish color. All G-05 meets the spec, no need to strain your eyes reading all that fine print. Thank Marshall for all his hard work concerning this type of stuff. Auto-Zone had it every time I needed it. Carquest, locally stocks it too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
IN EUROPE there are about a dozen makers of anti-freeze that meet Mercedes specs. All of the MB anti-freeze sold in the US is made by Valvoline - most is sold to Mercedes and the remainder is sold as Zerex G-05. The Peak Lifetime meets the Mercedes specs as well. NOTHING Prestone makes comes even close (despite their claim to the contrary - look for the Mercedes spec number on their data sheet - it isn't there)! Marshall Now G-05 is not the only antifreeze product from Zerex, right? Must be sure that it is G-05? Is there a MB spec number on the bottle that indicates some documentation / requirement that it meets? Or is this info only findable from the manufacture? Its funny Peak was a 'discount brand' at HiLow store around here during the glycol 'shortage' in the 90's. An was considered cheaper than Prestone (in marketing terms, yes I read Dilbert) Go figure.. George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
LarryT wrote: George wrote:> According to the Pentosin adverts, they're the OEM fluid for many European cars - I wonder if it's repackaged with the MB logo on the jug? IN EUROPE there are about a dozen makers of anti-freeze that meet Mercedes specs. All of the MB anti-freeze sold in the US is made by Valvoline - most is sold to Mercedes and the remainder is sold as Zerex G-05. The Peak Lifetime meets the Mercedes specs as well. NOTHING Prestone makes comes even close (despite their claim to the contrary - look for the Mercedes spec number on their data sheet - it isn't there)! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
Marshall or somebody posted about another brand that just became mb approved, what was that one? Christopher McCann wrote: Xerex G-05. One gets it at NAPA in these parts (Western MO). It is the same color. Chris George Larribeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Recently I serviced the radiator hoses on my 85 300SD. I ordered the MB coolant from rusty. I was a bit disappointed that the coolant is almost clear. A very pail yellow, I guess I am just use to having colored green coolant. The point here is what over the counter coolants are safe in the car? If I was on the road and something happened, there has to be something that is safe in it, right? George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 245K km, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 345K km, "Wulf" -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, "One Banger" "Mercedes Diesel: Die Motorleistung wird mit dem Kilometerzähler gemessen." __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
MB coolant is a pale yellow like grease... MB wheel bearing grease is an almost neon green, like "regular" american antifreeze... Go figure :) -j.
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
George wrote:<Pentosin Blue.>> According to the Pentosin adverts, they're the OEM fluid for many European cars - I wonder if it's repackaged with the MB logo on the jug? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "George Larribeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB coolant MB won't endorse the stuff. Thus, I won't touch it. Is there a MB list of MB endorsed / spproved fluids besides stuff from MB? The Indie shop that works on wifes BMW is in love with Pentosin Blue. George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
On Jun 15, 2006, at 2:49 PM, George Larribeau wrote: Recently I serviced the radiator hoses on my 85 300SD. I ordered the MB coolant from rusty. I was a bit disappointed that the coolant is almost clear. A very pail yellow, I guess I am just use to having colored green coolant. The point here is what over the counter coolants are safe in the car? If I was on the road and something happened, there has to be something that is safe in it, right? George Larribeau Zerex G-05 for one. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
MB won't endorse the stuff. Thus, I won't touch it. Is there a MB list of MB endorsed / spproved fluids besides stuff from MB? The Indie shop that works on wifes BMW is in love with Pentosin Blue. George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
MB won't endorse the stuff. Thus, I won't touch it. On 6/15/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: > > If you use the green stuff or Dex-Cool (shudder) or anything BUT the MB > stuff or Zerex G-05 (same stuff, different jug), it'll ruin the aluminum > radiator. So pony up for the yellow-orange stuff, and save yourself a large > cooling system repair bill later. Prestone makes some stuff now that's supposed to be universal, can top off yellow, orange or green with it. When Azone quit selling (temporarily it seems) G-05, the guys there told me that the Prestone made it obselete. Knowing the differences in PH buffering between the various coolants, I don't see how a universal fluid is possible. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
Sunil Hari wrote: > > If you use the green stuff or Dex-Cool (shudder) or anything BUT the MB > stuff or Zerex G-05 (same stuff, different jug), it'll ruin the aluminum > radiator. So pony up for the yellow-orange stuff, and save yourself a large > cooling system repair bill later. Prestone makes some stuff now that's supposed to be universal, can top off yellow, orange or green with it. When Azone quit selling (temporarily it seems) G-05, the guys there told me that the Prestone made it obselete. Knowing the differences in PH buffering between the various coolants, I don't see how a universal fluid is possible.
Re: [MBZ] MB coolant
Xerex G-05. One gets it at NAPA in these parts (Western MO). It is the same color. Chris George Larribeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Recently I serviced the radiator hoses on my 85 300SD. I ordered the MB coolant from rusty. I was a bit disappointed that the coolant is almost clear. A very pail yellow, I guess I am just use to having colored green coolant. The point here is what over the counter coolants are safe in the car? If I was on the road and something happened, there has to be something that is safe in it, right? George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 245K km, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 345K km, "Wulf" -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, "One Banger" "Mercedes Diesel: Die Motorleistung wird mit dem Kilometerzähler gemessen." __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 15 19:29:58 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.190]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FqxXR-000426-VH for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:29:58 + Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so128613nfe for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:29:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sucRoJMYAUSoL7gsUdNJivFeK95OxvXQ9o7PlqxRepp04qDZg2QKahMuHEG77LhV9AF4bcf5M6y11VF/vU1WeYSRQLsLIpmH+SVd/ktX8cOe2f/KvrC6pViMuUU+8iW9BezDXlLFwc4npYk+T2Moby9Q8y0gmxcqitYrmRkkjbY= Received: by 10.48.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr876454nfq; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.9.12 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:29:51 -0400 From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB coolant X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:29:58 - If you use the green stuff or Dex-Cool (shudder) or anything BUT the MB stuff or Zerex G-05 (same stuff, different jug), it'll ruin the aluminum radiator. So pony up for the yellow-orange stuff, and save yourself a larg= e cooling system repair bill later. On 6/15/06, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Xerex G-05. One gets it at NAPA in these parts (Western MO). It is the > same color. > > Chris > > George Larribeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Recently I serviced the > radiator hoses on my 85 300SD. I ordered the MB coolant from rusty. I wa= s a > bit disappointed that the coolant is almost clear. A very pail yellow, I > guess I am just use to having colored green coolant. The point here is w= hat > over the counter coolants are safe in the car? If I was on the road and > something happened, there has to be something that is safe in it, right? > > George Larribeau > Dallas, Texas > > 1985 300SD 190K > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri > -1987 300TD, 245K km, "Rotk=E4ppchen" > -1985 300SD, 345K km, "Wulf" > -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, "One Banger" > > "Mercedes Diesel: Die Motorleistun
[MBZ] MB coolant
Recently I serviced the radiator hoses on my 85 300SD. I ordered the MB coolant from rusty. I was a bit disappointed that the coolant is almost clear. A very pail yellow, I guess I am just use to having colored green coolant. The point here is what over the counter coolants are safe in the car? If I was on the road and something happened, there has to be something that is safe in it, right? George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K
