VW started using FI with the 1968 type 111, continued with the type 4, type 1 I
think in 1974 maybe 73, type 2
FI around 76. All very reliable but a bit over complicated.
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1. Re: OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
linotype, intertype, and other old presses (Jim Cathey)
2. Re: OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
linotype, intertype, and other old presses (G Mann)
3. Re: OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
linotype, intertype, and other old presses (Jim Cathey)
4. Re: OT: Don't see these too often (dan penoff.com)
5. 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500 (Allan Streib)
6. Re: 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500 (dan penoff.com)
7. 2003 SLK320 - 54k miles - $12,500 (Allan Streib)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:03:47 -0700
From: Jim Cathey <jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
linotype, intertype, and other old presses
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> I think you're putting a lot of faith into your ability to refuel, especially
> after, say, a month...
Again, not MY ability to refuel. Just that enough people would be able to
refuel,
probably by violence and theft, to help spread the fall of civilization. With
EV
the rot is a day's travel from home, and then it's on foot. With ICE, the rot
is a
month's travel from home before it's on foot. Which damages more of the
somewhat self-sufficient rural community?
-- Jim
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:11:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
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I presume your survival vehicle is a pre-computer controlled diesel , and
part of your survival tool kit is a reliable fuel transfer [multiple
options] mechanical device? Aux tanks to extend range?
See Mad Max movie... ;))
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 1:04 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> > I think you're putting a lot of faith into your ability to refuel,
> especially after, say, a month...
>
> Again, not MY ability to refuel. Just that enough people would be able to
> refuel,
> probably by violence and theft, to help spread the fall of civilization.
> With EV
> the rot is a day's travel from home, and then it's on foot. With ICE, the
> rot is a
> month's travel from home before it's on foot. Which damages more of the
> somewhat self-sufficient rural community?
>
> -- Jim
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:28:03 -0700
From: Jim Cathey <jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
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My _personal_ survival vehicle would be my trusty '97 Dodge 4wd diesel pickup.
100% mechanical if you lash up the P7100's fuel cutoff solenoid, and you can
push/tow-start it if need be. (Steep hill recommended!) But I am not a
prepper, in any real sense, so I don't have all that other stuff. With any
advance
notice, my first response would be, while civilization still held, to load up
valuables and supplies in said truck/camper, with trailer, and move family and
self to the old family farm. Then help the locals blow bridges and such, in
fine Lucifer's Hammer tradition. Trade my sentry, and engineering, services
such as they are for food, hope they'd let me stay. Alive.
-- Jim
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:38:48 +0000
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often
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As I recall, which is a dangerous thing for times so long ago, FI didn?t appear
in VWs until the early 70s, and it started in the Super Beetle and Type IV
(fastback/squareback/411).
-D
> On Sep 15, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> A friend of mine in high school had a clapped-out Scirocco that he had
> removed the FI from and installed a carburetor. I gather was a pretty common
> home-mechanic approach to dealing with FI problems before engines got so
> computerized that it was no longer possible.
>
> Neighbors growing up had a green, late '60s Type III. I assume it was
> carbureted but don't know for sure. Pretty cool car, it had rust perforation
> by the mid 1970s and they traded it for a Chevy Vega -- a downgrade IMO.
>
> Allan
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021, at 3:03 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I had a 71 Fastback that was the requisite VW orange. Great car after I
>> yanked the Bosch FI and installed dual carbs. In fairness, the PO had
>> boogered up the FI somehow and it was beyond my budget at the time to
>> resolve, so I went the way of dual carbs.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rode in one of these in Mpls. back when they first were sold. Very
>>> sprightly yet also cheap and inconsequential car.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 2:44 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In 1973, I was 13. My friend?s father bought a 1968 Squareback even though
>>>> he had never driven a manual transmission before (he didn?t even get a DL
>>>> until he was 35). That summer I taught him, his wife and several other
>>>> people in the neighborhood how to drive a manual in that Squareback. I love
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> AZBob
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/581135949912790/
>>>>> Interestingly both Angie's and my mother had VW Type III fastbacks when
>>>> we were born. In realizing that Angie has decided it'd be cool to have a
>>>> Type III. I've always thought the wagons were cool.I've never seen one that
>>>> wasn't wicked rusty though. I bet good ones go for big money.
>>>>> -Curt
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 17:29:03 -0400
From: "Allan Streib" <astr...@fastmail.fm>
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Subject: [MBZ] 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500
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Rusty fender but otherwise doesn't look too bad. Tow hitch.
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-1998-mercedes-ml320/7380763341.html
Allan
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 21:31:22 +0000
From: dan penoff.com <d...@penoff.com>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500
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Pre-2000 MLs are to be avoided. They have a lot of "new model" issues, I?ve
been told.
-D
> On Sep 15, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Rusty fender but otherwise doesn't look too bad. Tow hitch.
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-1998-mercedes-ml320/7380763341.html
>
> Allan
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 17:32:49 -0400
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Subject: [MBZ] 2003 SLK320 - 54k miles - $12,500
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"Perfect condition" but has a rug on the dash. Looks nice otherwise though.
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-slk-320-mercedes-benz/7380718605.html
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