Re: [MBZ] More AC woes

2009-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey

leak but who knows, maybe that's all it is.  I tried my tire core tool


It doesn't take much to leak it all away.

on it to see if I could tigten it but it would not fit around the 
barrel

of the valve.


Odd.  Mine doesn't go around the barrel, it goes down inside
and over the pin.  Works fine on tires and AC valves.  Cheap
thing, too.  Hemostats work, too.  I've had several valves that
were loose and that's all the significant leak there was.  The
vibration and heat cycling works them loose with time.


I assume that the valve cores are not interchangable with a tire valve
core, right?


No, they're not exactly the same.  Very similar.  I think NAPA
carries them.  It's where the local rip-off AC shop gets their stuff.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] More AC woes

2009-06-27 Thread Allan Streib
To add to the chorus of AC problems -- 

I've been working on getting the AC going again on my 300D.  It has not
worked in some time and when it threw the AC belt last year summer I did
not bother replacing it.

With the intention to resurrect the system, I bought some servicing
equiptment from Harbor Freight (vacuum pump and manifold gauge set).

Last week I put a new belt on and attached the gauges.  No pressure on
the high side and minimal residual pressure on the low side.

I vacuumed the system for half an hour.  Closing the valves, it appeared
to be holding.

I charged the system and got some cooling.  Pressures looked good but
never got really cold vent temps (I got maybe into the 50s).  I did
notice that a lot of the cool air was being diverted to the defrost
vents because water started condensing on the windshield.

I did not really use the AC much on the road because the cooling was so
marginal it was more comfortable to just have the windows open.

Today I put the gauges back on and there was virtually no pressure in
the system.  So I've got a major leak somewhere, as the entire charge
was lost in about 5 days, without even having had the AC on much in that
time.

What's the best way to isolate the leak or identify the source?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] More AC woes

2009-06-27 Thread Benz Hogs
A/C sniffer or dye with goggles and UV light.  Ask Kaleb about my JB 
Weld repair to the $600 a/c line in my SDL...


Luther

Allan Streib wrote:
To add to the chorus of AC problems -- 


I've been working on getting the AC going again on my 300D.  It has not
worked in some time and when it threw the AC belt last year summer I did
not bother replacing it.

With the intention to resurrect the system, I bought some servicing
equiptment from Harbor Freight (vacuum pump and manifold gauge set).

Last week I put a new belt on and attached the gauges.  No pressure on
the high side and minimal residual pressure on the low side.

I vacuumed the system for half an hour.  Closing the valves, it appeared
to be holding.

I charged the system and got some cooling.  Pressures looked good but
never got really cold vent temps (I got maybe into the 50s).  I did
notice that a lot of the cool air was being diverted to the defrost
vents because water started condensing on the windshield.

I did not really use the AC much on the road because the cooling was so
marginal it was more comfortable to just have the windows open.

Today I put the gauges back on and there was virtually no pressure in
the system.  So I've got a major leak somewhere, as the entire charge
was lost in about 5 days, without even having had the AC on much in that
time.

What's the best way to isolate the leak or identify the source?

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] More AC woes

2009-06-27 Thread Jim Cathey

With the intention to resurrect the system, I bought some servicing
equipment from Harbor Freight (vacuum pump and manifold gauge set).


So far, so good.

I vacuumed the system for half an hour.  Closing the valves, it 
appeared

to be holding.


Yep.


I charged the system and got some cooling.  Pressures looked good but
never got really cold vent temps (I got maybe into the 50s).  I did
notice that a lot of the cool air was being diverted to the defrost
vents because water started condensing on the windshield.


Effectiveness will suck if the defrost vents don't close.
You need to deal with that.  Vent temps on a 123 can get
down to 39 degrees on a long freeway.  That's what I get
with the test refrigerant, anyway.


What's the best way to isolate the leak or identify the source?


Get a jug of kids' bubble solution and start painting
it around all the joints.  Especially on the compressor
manifold and the Schrader valves.  Look for bubbles.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] More AC woes

2009-06-27 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:

 Get a jug of kids' bubble solution and start painting
 it around all the joints.  Especially on the compressor
 manifold and the Schrader valves.  Look for bubbles.

I seem to have some leaking around the low pressure schrader valve, I
saw some bubbling oil there after I removed the manifold gauge hose.  It
seemed to stop within a minute or so.  I would guess that's not my only
leak but who knows, maybe that's all it is.  I tried my tire core tool
on it to see if I could tigten it but it would not fit around the barrel
of the valve.

I assume that the valve cores are not interchangable with a tire valve
core, right?

Where can I find a replacement core?  Is this something NAPA would be
likely to stock?  Stopped in a Pep Boys this afternoon and they did not
have them.

Allan

-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] More AC woes

2009-06-27 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes:

 Where can I find a replacement core?  Is this something NAPA would be
 likely to stock?  Stopped in a Pep Boys this afternoon and they did
 not have them.

Would these work?  Mercedes didn't use some odd size core did they?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66896

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] More AC woes

2009-06-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
any parts store should have them, and Im almost certain they are pretty 
much the same as tire valves


Allan Streib wrote:

Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:

  

Get a jug of kids' bubble solution and start painting
it around all the joints.  Especially on the compressor
manifold and the Schrader valves.  Look for bubbles.



I seem to have some leaking around the low pressure schrader valve, I
saw some bubbling oil there after I removed the manifold gauge hose.  It
seemed to stop within a minute or so.  I would guess that's not my only
leak but who knows, maybe that's all it is.  I tried my tire core tool
on it to see if I could tigten it but it would not fit around the barrel
of the valve.

I assume that the valve cores are not interchangable with a tire valve
core, right?

Where can I find a replacement core?  Is this something NAPA would be
likely to stock?  Stopped in a Pep Boys this afternoon and they did not
have them.

Allan

  




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