Re: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule
Is there any discussion? Are there any amendments? Where is the Chairman and why isn't he running this meeting? - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:07 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Second > > > clay > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > 1986 SDL - Polei > 1982 300 SD - Allen > > retired models- > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Mr Chairman! > > > > I move that this august body (known as OkieBenz) adopt the following > rule: > > > > WHEREAS The collective wisdom of this body is exceedingly good at > > diagnosing all things Diesel MB, remotely and with little "on the ground" > > information, and; > > > > WHEREAS The frugal nature of this body is such that many members squirrel > > away many things, including MB technical literature, new parts, used > parts, > > and even entire used cars (sometimes acres of used cars, visible by > > satellite), and; > > > > WHEREAS The generous nature of this body is such that said items that > have > > been squirreled away are typically exchanged for the cost of shipping or > > maybe a little more, and; > > > > WHEREAS The flip side of the human nature of frugality is too often an > > ornery stubborn independence (dare I say prideful?) which is especially > > exhibited in those members who ask lots of questions but then usually do > > their own thing regardless of input from this body, often with the result > > of spending more time and money and list bandwidth exploring options that > > ultimately fail and lead to the original solution proposed weeks or > months > > earlier, and THEN considerable "I told you so" ensues, taking up more > list > > bandwidth, which some members find quite entertaining and others find > > rather a waste and others probably think even less of the whole sad > > situation; > > > > THEREFORE when Mr. Strasfogel asks more than three questions about a > fault > > with any MB automobile, and the collective wisdom of OkieBenz has > narrowed > > the possible root cause(s) of said fault, and said fault could be > remedied > > with a serviceable used part(s) or extra new part(s) that a member has in > > store (like a block heater cord, one of my favorite things to harvest > from > > the Knackers), then the member may voluntarily and freely ship or deliver > > the part(s) to Mr. Strasfogel, and then either openly or anonymously > > announce to OkieBenz that the part(s) are en-route, and Mr. Strasfogel > > shall then be invited to report on the success or failure of this > > assistance. > > > > Do I hear a second? > > > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule
Second clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mr Chairman! > > I move that this august body (known as OkieBenz) adopt the following rule: > > WHEREAS The collective wisdom of this body is exceedingly good at > diagnosing all things Diesel MB, remotely and with little "on the ground" > information, and; > > WHEREAS The frugal nature of this body is such that many members squirrel > away many things, including MB technical literature, new parts, used parts, > and even entire used cars (sometimes acres of used cars, visible by > satellite), and; > > WHEREAS The generous nature of this body is such that said items that have > been squirreled away are typically exchanged for the cost of shipping or > maybe a little more, and; > > WHEREAS The flip side of the human nature of frugality is too often an > ornery stubborn independence (dare I say prideful?) which is especially > exhibited in those members who ask lots of questions but then usually do > their own thing regardless of input from this body, often with the result > of spending more time and money and list bandwidth exploring options that > ultimately fail and lead to the original solution proposed weeks or months > earlier, and THEN considerable "I told you so" ensues, taking up more list > bandwidth, which some members find quite entertaining and others find > rather a waste and others probably think even less of the whole sad > situation; > > THEREFORE when Mr. Strasfogel asks more than three questions about a fault > with any MB automobile, and the collective wisdom of OkieBenz has narrowed > the possible root cause(s) of said fault, and said fault could be remedied > with a serviceable used part(s) or extra new part(s) that a member has in > store (like a block heater cord, one of my favorite things to harvest from > the Knackers), then the member may voluntarily and freely ship or deliver > the part(s) to Mr. Strasfogel, and then either openly or anonymously > announce to OkieBenz that the part(s) are en-route, and Mr. Strasfogel > shall then be invited to report on the success or failure of this > assistance. > > Do I hear a second? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule
To clarify, the advice simply wasn't applicable to my case. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 05/01/2018 10:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> snip >> >> For the record, most of the assistance posted to resolve issues I have >> described have been off the mark. >> > > Now that, I truly doubt. The expertise on this list is such that there is > always good advice on what to look for and how to look for it. > > RB > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule
On 05/01/2018 10:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: snip For the record, most of the assistance posted to resolve issues I have described have been off the mark. Now that, I truly doubt. The expertise on this list is such that there is always good advice on what to look for and how to look for it. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule
I'd think on inspection we're doing pretty good for not being able to see the issue. Got the block heater cord right. Got the problem with replacing only one sphere... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: And thirdly, I pledge to do likewise. In that vein, thanks to Fred for providing me with amber turn signal lenses and to Dan for his generosity in shipping me useful parts too numerous to mention. If I am forgetting someone else I'm sure "Curley" will remind me. For the record, most of the assistance posted to resolve issues I have described have been off the mark. When someone does nail it I try to reward that person with a gift of slightly more than nominal value, or at least an Attaboy. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Tres drole. > > Seconded. > > > Fred Moir. > Lynn MA. > Diesel preferred. > > > > From: Mercedes on behalf of Meade Dillon > via Mercedes > Sent: 05 January 2018 08:47 > To: Mercedes > Cc: Meade Dillon > Subject: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule > > Mr Chairman! > > I move that this august body (known as OkieBenz) adopt the following rule: > > WHEREAS The collective wisdom of this body is exceedingly good at > diagnosing all things Diesel MB, remotely and with little "on the ground" > information, and; > > WHEREAS The frugal nature of this body is such that many members squirrel > away many things, including MB technical literature, new parts, used parts, > and even entire used cars (sometimes acres of used cars, visible by > satellite), and; > > WHEREAS The generous nature of this body is such that said items that have > been squirreled away are typically exchanged for the cost of shipping or > maybe a little more, and; > > WHEREAS The flip side of the human nature of frugality is too often an > ornery stubborn independence (dare I say prideful?) which is especially > exhibited in those members who ask lots of questions but then usually do > their own thing regardless of input from this body, often with the result > of spending more time and money and list bandwidth exploring options that > ultimately fail and lead to the original solution proposed weeks or months > earlier, and THEN considerable "I told you so" ensues, taking up more list > bandwidth, which some members find quite entertaining and others find > rather a waste and others probably think even less of the whole sad > situation; > > THEREFORE when Mr. Strasfogel asks more than three questions about a fault > with any MB automobile, and the collective wisdom of OkieBenz has narrowed > the possible root cause(s) of said fault, and said fault could be remedied > with a serviceable used part(s) or extra new part(s) that a member has in > store (like a block heater cord, one of my favorite things to harvest from > the Knackers), then the member may voluntarily and freely ship or deliver > the part(s) to Mr. Strasfogel, and then either openly or anonymously > announce to OkieBenz that the part(s) are en-route, and Mr. Strasfogel > shall then be invited to report on the success or failure of this > assistance. > > Do I hear a second? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > [http://okiebenz.com/mbzlogo.gif]<http://www.okiebenz.com/> > > Welcome to Okiebenz.com, your online resource for the ...< > http://www.okiebenz.com/> > www.okiebenz.com > Looking for a place to hang out and talk about Mercedes? You have come to > the right place. If you need help repairing your car, are looking for new > or used parts, or ... > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule
And thirdly, I pledge to do likewise. In that vein, thanks to Fred for providing me with amber turn signal lenses and to Dan for his generosity in shipping me useful parts too numerous to mention. If I am forgetting someone else I'm sure "Curley" will remind me. For the record, most of the assistance posted to resolve issues I have described have been off the mark. When someone does nail it I try to reward that person with a gift of slightly more than nominal value, or at least an Attaboy. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Tres drole. > > Seconded. > > > Fred Moir. > Lynn MA. > Diesel preferred. > > > > From: Mercedes on behalf of Meade Dillon > via Mercedes > Sent: 05 January 2018 08:47 > To: Mercedes > Cc: Meade Dillon > Subject: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule > > Mr Chairman! > > I move that this august body (known as OkieBenz) adopt the following rule: > > WHEREAS The collective wisdom of this body is exceedingly good at > diagnosing all things Diesel MB, remotely and with little "on the ground" > information, and; > > WHEREAS The frugal nature of this body is such that many members squirrel > away many things, including MB technical literature, new parts, used parts, > and even entire used cars (sometimes acres of used cars, visible by > satellite), and; > > WHEREAS The generous nature of this body is such that said items that have > been squirreled away are typically exchanged for the cost of shipping or > maybe a little more, and; > > WHEREAS The flip side of the human nature of frugality is too often an > ornery stubborn independence (dare I say prideful?) which is especially > exhibited in those members who ask lots of questions but then usually do > their own thing regardless of input from this body, often with the result > of spending more time and money and list bandwidth exploring options that > ultimately fail and lead to the original solution proposed weeks or months > earlier, and THEN considerable "I told you so" ensues, taking up more list > bandwidth, which some members find quite entertaining and others find > rather a waste and others probably think even less of the whole sad > situation; > > THEREFORE when Mr. Strasfogel asks more than three questions about a fault > with any MB automobile, and the collective wisdom of OkieBenz has narrowed > the possible root cause(s) of said fault, and said fault could be remedied > with a serviceable used part(s) or extra new part(s) that a member has in > store (like a block heater cord, one of my favorite things to harvest from > the Knackers), then the member may voluntarily and freely ship or deliver > the part(s) to Mr. Strasfogel, and then either openly or anonymously > announce to OkieBenz that the part(s) are en-route, and Mr. Strasfogel > shall then be invited to report on the success or failure of this > assistance. > > Do I hear a second? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > [http://okiebenz.com/mbzlogo.gif]<http://www.okiebenz.com/> > > Welcome to Okiebenz.com, your online resource for the ...< > http://www.okiebenz.com/> > www.okiebenz.com > Looking for a place to hang out and talk about Mercedes? You have come to > the right place. If you need help repairing your car, are looking for new > or used parts, or ... > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule
Tres drole. Seconded. Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: 05 January 2018 08:47 To: Mercedes Cc: Meade Dillon Subject: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule Mr Chairman! I move that this august body (known as OkieBenz) adopt the following rule: WHEREAS The collective wisdom of this body is exceedingly good at diagnosing all things Diesel MB, remotely and with little "on the ground" information, and; WHEREAS The frugal nature of this body is such that many members squirrel away many things, including MB technical literature, new parts, used parts, and even entire used cars (sometimes acres of used cars, visible by satellite), and; WHEREAS The generous nature of this body is such that said items that have been squirreled away are typically exchanged for the cost of shipping or maybe a little more, and; WHEREAS The flip side of the human nature of frugality is too often an ornery stubborn independence (dare I say prideful?) which is especially exhibited in those members who ask lots of questions but then usually do their own thing regardless of input from this body, often with the result of spending more time and money and list bandwidth exploring options that ultimately fail and lead to the original solution proposed weeks or months earlier, and THEN considerable "I told you so" ensues, taking up more list bandwidth, which some members find quite entertaining and others find rather a waste and others probably think even less of the whole sad situation; THEREFORE when Mr. Strasfogel asks more than three questions about a fault with any MB automobile, and the collective wisdom of OkieBenz has narrowed the possible root cause(s) of said fault, and said fault could be remedied with a serviceable used part(s) or extra new part(s) that a member has in store (like a block heater cord, one of my favorite things to harvest from the Knackers), then the member may voluntarily and freely ship or deliver the part(s) to Mr. Strasfogel, and then either openly or anonymously announce to OkieBenz that the part(s) are en-route, and Mr. Strasfogel shall then be invited to report on the success or failure of this assistance. Do I hear a second? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com [http://okiebenz.com/mbzlogo.gif]<http://www.okiebenz.com/> Welcome to Okiebenz.com, your online resource for the ...<http://www.okiebenz.com/> www.okiebenz.com Looking for a place to hang out and talk about Mercedes? You have come to the right place. If you need help repairing your car, are looking for new or used parts, or ... To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule
I second that emotion! --FT On 1/5/18 8:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Mr Chairman! I move that this august body (known as OkieBenz) adopt the following rule: WHEREAS The collective wisdom of this body is exceedingly good at diagnosing all things Diesel MB, remotely and with little "on the ground" information, and; WHEREAS The frugal nature of this body is such that many members squirrel away many things, including MB technical literature, new parts, used parts, and even entire used cars (sometimes acres of used cars, visible by satellite), and; WHEREAS The generous nature of this body is such that said items that have been squirreled away are typically exchanged for the cost of shipping or maybe a little more, and; WHEREAS The flip side of the human nature of frugality is too often an ornery stubborn independence (dare I say prideful?) which is especially exhibited in those members who ask lots of questions but then usually do their own thing regardless of input from this body, often with the result of spending more time and money and list bandwidth exploring options that ultimately fail and lead to the original solution proposed weeks or months earlier, and THEN considerable "I told you so" ensues, taking up more list bandwidth, which some members find quite entertaining and others find rather a waste and others probably think even less of the whole sad situation; THEREFORE when Mr. Strasfogel asks more than three questions about a fault with any MB automobile, and the collective wisdom of OkieBenz has narrowed the possible root cause(s) of said fault, and said fault could be remedied with a serviceable used part(s) or extra new part(s) that a member has in store (like a block heater cord, one of my favorite things to harvest from the Knackers), then the member may voluntarily and freely ship or deliver the part(s) to Mr. Strasfogel, and then either openly or anonymously announce to OkieBenz that the part(s) are en-route, and Mr. Strasfogel shall then be invited to report on the success or failure of this assistance. Do I hear a second? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Motion for consideration: Strasfogel's Rule
Mr Chairman! I move that this august body (known as OkieBenz) adopt the following rule: WHEREAS The collective wisdom of this body is exceedingly good at diagnosing all things Diesel MB, remotely and with little "on the ground" information, and; WHEREAS The frugal nature of this body is such that many members squirrel away many things, including MB technical literature, new parts, used parts, and even entire used cars (sometimes acres of used cars, visible by satellite), and; WHEREAS The generous nature of this body is such that said items that have been squirreled away are typically exchanged for the cost of shipping or maybe a little more, and; WHEREAS The flip side of the human nature of frugality is too often an ornery stubborn independence (dare I say prideful?) which is especially exhibited in those members who ask lots of questions but then usually do their own thing regardless of input from this body, often with the result of spending more time and money and list bandwidth exploring options that ultimately fail and lead to the original solution proposed weeks or months earlier, and THEN considerable "I told you so" ensues, taking up more list bandwidth, which some members find quite entertaining and others find rather a waste and others probably think even less of the whole sad situation; THEREFORE when Mr. Strasfogel asks more than three questions about a fault with any MB automobile, and the collective wisdom of OkieBenz has narrowed the possible root cause(s) of said fault, and said fault could be remedied with a serviceable used part(s) or extra new part(s) that a member has in store (like a block heater cord, one of my favorite things to harvest from the Knackers), then the member may voluntarily and freely ship or deliver the part(s) to Mr. Strasfogel, and then either openly or anonymously announce to OkieBenz that the part(s) are en-route, and Mr. Strasfogel shall then be invited to report on the success or failure of this assistance. Do I hear a second? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
