Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-29 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
*From:* LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* clay redgh...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel Yeah, I can see the problem with VW diesels are more owner problems

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel Is the VW Taureg held in the same low esteem as the rest of the VWs? Larry On 7/26/2014 7:57 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: The Audi diesels are VW TDIs. Many of the parts on my Jetta have both the VW badge and the Audi linked rings. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-29 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
of the BS. Service is due at 10,000 miles but will probably be performed in Bedford.YMMV Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:21:26 -0700 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel From: mercedes@okiebenz.com I briefly considered a Touareg

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2014-07-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel From: mercedes@okiebenz.com I briefly considered a Touareg to replace my Ranger. Theres a video on Youtube of one in some serious offroad situations where it does remarkably well considering its a fairly simple soft roader. I think

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-29 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Andrew.Yup, Rock on! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:02:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com They still make Beetles?? On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Fred Moir via

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2014-07-27 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
The 210's are a rust bucket. I have one that the rocker rotted out from the inside at the jack point. (It will eventually be going, but that's another story.) Also those om606's have the snap-off glow plugs. (I was actually torquing the head bolts on the other one and had to stand down; the

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Wow - that's really interesting -- that VW owners are so uncaring about the upkeep of their cars. I wonder if they were leases or owned? Of course the data to be analyzed is pretty extensive. IMO most car shoppers are interestied oin one thing - what's my ,onthly payment? Advertisers

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2014-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That is insightful, as some time ago when I was looking for a car for the youngest son I seriously considered both Jettas and Passats. Nearly every used one I looked at had issues or a history of lousy maintenance (if any.) My brother owned an early 2000s Passat that he bought new. It was a

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel That is insightful, as some time ago when I was looking for a car for the youngest son I

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2014-07-26 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
I agree - begore reading the comments on this list I would have had a VW diesel near the top of my list. Sounds like I am back to MB -- if I can find one I can afford... Its a shame -- I also was a fan of Passats an Jettas - would have liked a wagon .. Larry On 7/26/2014 9:01 AM, Dan

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2014-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
In fairness to VW, I've never heard much bad about the TDIs in any flavor. I had a friend who was a dolphin trainer for Busch Gardens when they had a dolphin show some years back. They closed down the show and moved the animals to Sea World over in Orlando, a good hour's drive from here. He was

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I suspect that most lower end cars are not maintained the same as the higher end cars. VW is lower (despite their attempts at up-scaling their advertising) and Mercedes are upper end cars. There are VWs that have been maintained well, but you're going to have to search for one, and know what

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread clay via Mercedes
I was in the market for the passat TDI wagon a few years back, but decided to check with my cousin, since he sold them. That was the swiftest scratch off the list conversation. Ended up holding onto the E300D, and SWBMA purchased some korean sedan loaded with bells and whistles. She is now

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Yeah, I can see the problem with VW diesels are more owner problems than VW problems although VW's are made to be utility vehicles - some look better than others so they can sell as family cars but they are still economical cars (read cheap) and they have always been. when I was working at

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I believe that Audi VW are still one and the same if not, someone please correct me. I believe, based on what I have learned since my W140 and R129 ownership, that from 1996-7 through the early 2000s MB had most of the kinks worked out of their cars. This would not apply to the M class,

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2014-07-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
LarryT via Mercedes wrote: I agree - begore reading the comments on this list I would have had a VW diesel near the top of my list. Sounds like I am back to MB -- if I can find one I can afford... Its a shame -- I also was a fan of Passats an Jettas - would have liked a wagon .. 12 years

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2014-07-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
, July 26, 2014 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel Yeah, I can see the problem with VW diesels are more owner problems than VW problems although VW's are made to be utility vehicles - some look better than others so they can sell as family cars but they are still economical cars

[MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-25 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Hi Ya'll, One of these days I will have to give up on the 91 300D and start looking for something newer for my wife. I prefer to stay with Diesels and while I would like to stay with MB I'm not sure the quality is there, but that's just based on anecdotal comments. I'd probably want

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2014-07-25 Thread clay via Mercedes
Sounds about as rare as Unicorns. A CDI benz should fit the bill fine. Most of the other diesel cars available in USA are going to be junk or worse as used examples. My cousin sold VW, and loved them fresh off the lot. He was less than impressed with what showed up in trades or how rare it

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2014-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
clay via Mercedes wrote: Sounds about as rare as Unicorns. A CDI benz should fit the bill fine. Most of the other diesel cars available in USA are going to be junk or worse as used examples. My cousin sold VW, and loved them fresh off the lot. He was less than impressed with what showed up

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2014-07-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
A one or two year old Passat TDI should not be too bad - ours have been great, except when we took it to the stealer :-( On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:48 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sounds about as rare as Unicorns. snip My cousin sold VW, and loved them fresh off the lot.