Re: [MBZ] O.T. Acura's Cold Tapping

2007-11-03 Thread James Zavesky
One thermostat. If it was used for local travel and the motor was never
warmed up I could see that. Didn't thing the EGR valves would cause that.

Jim 

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> I bought  the 1992 600SEL with a tick in the motor three 
> years ago. Replaced all the  wirng under the hood. Started to 
> deal with the ticking earlier this summer.  Dropped the oil 
> pan and it was FULL of carbon upto the oil pickup, never a  
> good sign. Cleaned it out, significant drop in lifter  noise
> 
> 
> WOW!  That is weird!  Did you ever figure out what caused all 
> the  carbon?  A weak thermostat (I suppose the V12 has two) 
> would let the engine  run cold.  
> Problems with EGR could be a cause, too.
>  
> Inquiring minds  
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> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
> 98 ML 320, 152 K  miles
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Acura's Cold Tapping

2007-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
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> In a message dated 11/2/2007 2:07:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
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> WOW!  That is weird!  Did you ever figure out what caused all the  carbon?  A
> weak thermostat (I suppose the V12 has two) would let the engine  run cold.
> Problems with EGR could be a cause, too.

Never changing the oil could do it too. 
When people pay $100k (in 1992 dollars) for a car, they seem to either
take it to the dealer when recommended, (look for the stamps in the book)
or ignore it.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Acura's Cold Tapping

2007-11-02 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 11/2/2007 2:07:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I bought  the 1992 600SEL with a tick in the motor three years ago. Replaced
all the  wirng under the hood. Started to deal with the ticking earlier this
summer.  Dropped the oil pan and it was FULL of carbon upto the oil pickup,
never a  good sign. Cleaned it out, significant drop in lifter  noise


WOW!  That is weird!  Did you ever figure out what caused all the  carbon?  A 
weak thermostat (I suppose the V12 has two) would let the engine  run cold.  
Problems with EGR could be a cause, too.
 
Inquiring minds  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 152 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Acura's Cold Tapping

2007-11-02 Thread James Zavesky
I bought the 1992 600SEL with a tick in the motor three years ago. Replaced
all the wirng under the hood. Started to deal with the ticking earlier this
summer. Dropped the oil pan and it was FULL of carbon upto the oil pickup,
never a good sign. Cleaned it out, significant drop in lifter noise. Put a
can of Seafoam in the oil ran it for a 1000 miles did an oil change and
noise was better. Guys on Benzworld were talking about a site
http://www.Auto-Rx.com selling a product called auto-Rx. Bought the
recommended amount added it to the oil. Noise is almost completely gone.
Will do the flush and another treatment and should be done.

James Zavesky


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> In a message dated 11/2/2007 7:14:37 A.M. US Mountain 
> Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> Had to  schlep the youngest girl child to cheer practice this 
> morning. The spousal  unit's '87 Legend, 189K miles now, was 
> parked behind my car so I drove the  Legend for the first 
> time in awhile. Knowing my wife had driven it last I  first 
> turned off the AC and radio, then started the engine. I 
> instantly got  an unnerving tap, tap, tap. I shut 'er off and 
> checked the oil and it was  SAT. I restarted 'er and the 
> tapping (you all know this  tapping.) continued. So I took 
> off for the school as the tapping continued.  The moment the 
> temp gage came off the cold peg, the tapping  stopped.
> 
> What the heck does this indicate?
> 
> 
> 
> Bob,
>  
> Could be carbon build up from low speed driving.  Or a dirty 
> hydraulic lifter.  A couple trips out to the site and back 
> should clear it up.  
> 
> Jim  Friesen
> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
> 98 ML 320, 152 K  miles
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Acura's Cold Tapping

2007-11-02 Thread Robert Rentfro
That's an easy fixwell easy up to the point where I have to convince her
to drive my car for a couple of days. "Your cars are always so slow" and
"the kids call it the Mustardmobile you know..."

A little Techron and a couple of pretend-like-I'm-late trips out
there...sweet.

Thanks, Mr. Jim. 

Bob R.


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In a message dated 11/2/2007 7:14:37 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Had to  schlep the youngest girl child to cheer practice this morning. The
spousal  unit's '87 Legend, 189K miles now, was parked behind my car so I
drove the  Legend for the first time in awhile. Knowing my wife had driven
it
last I  first turned off the AC and radio, then started the engine. I
instantly got  an unnerving tap, tap, tap. I shut 'er off and checked the
oil
and it was  SAT. I restarted 'er and the tapping (you all know this
tapping.)
continued. So I took off for the school as the tapping continued.  The
moment
the temp gage came off the cold peg, the tapping  stopped.

What the heck does this indicate?



Bob,
 
Could be carbon build up from low speed driving.  Or a dirty hydraulic  
lifter.  A couple trips out to the site and back should clear it up.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 152 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Acura's Cold Tapping

2007-11-02 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 11/2/2007 7:14:37 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Had to  schlep the youngest girl child to cheer practice this morning. The
spousal  unit's '87 Legend, 189K miles now, was parked behind my car so I
drove the  Legend for the first time in awhile. Knowing my wife had driven it
last I  first turned off the AC and radio, then started the engine. I
instantly got  an unnerving tap, tap, tap. I shut 'er off and checked the oil
and it was  SAT. I restarted 'er and the tapping (you all know this  tapping.)
continued. So I took off for the school as the tapping continued.  The moment
the temp gage came off the cold peg, the tapping  stopped.

What the heck does this indicate?



Bob,
 
Could be carbon build up from low speed driving.  Or a dirty hydraulic  
lifter.  A couple trips out to the site and back should clear it up.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 152 K  miles




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[MBZ] O.T. Acura's Cold Tapping

2007-11-02 Thread Robert Rentfro
Had to schlep the youngest girl child to cheer practice this morning. The
spousal unit's '87 Legend, 189K miles now, was parked behind my car so I
drove the Legend for the first time in awhile. Knowing my wife had driven it
last I first turned off the AC and radio, then started the engine. I
instantly got an unnerving tap, tap, tap. I shut 'er off and checked the oil
and it was SAT. I restarted 'er and the tapping (you all know this tapping.)
continued. So I took off for the school as the tapping continued. The moment
the temp gage came off the cold peg, the tapping stopped.

What the heck does this indicate?

 

Bob R. in AZ

'77 300D 183K

'87 Acura Legend 189K

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