Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-19 Thread Brian Toscano
Looks like the pulley holder for the 603. On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2013 12:39:20 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I'm talking about my S500, so that is the M119. Is there a place for a pin or something to lock the

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-19 Thread John Reames
Iirc Baum makes one of them, and El Paso tools (Baum?) sells them on eBay from time to time, ~40 or so. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 16, 2013, at 0:01, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2013 12:39:20 -0400 Dan Penoff

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Thanks, Craig. Something occurred to me on this: Is the bolt that holds the fan clutch to the water pump right hand or left hand thread? If it's left hand I wasn't turning in the correct direction considering that the rated torque is only 10 nm for this fastener, I should have been able

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-15 Thread Dan Penoff
I wanted to check and top off the oil in my fan clutch if necessary, but I simply could not loosen the Allen head bolt that goes through it. I had no problem holding it in place, but I just couldn't get enough torque on the little devil to break it loose. If anyone has a suggestion on how to

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-15 Thread Dieselhead
I wanted to check and top off the oil in my fan clutch if necessary, but I simply could not loosen the Allen head bolt that goes through it. I had no problem holding it in place, but I just couldn't get enough torque on the little devil to break it loose. If anyone has a suggestion on how to

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-15 Thread Dan Penoff
My problem was keeping the fan from turning. I had a piece of steel that I fashioned for holding it, but trying to hold it and apply pressure to the extension holding the Allen wrench and keeping it square so it wouldn't come out and round off the bolt proved difficult. If I had a way of

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-15 Thread Craig
On Wed, 15 May 2013 10:44:50 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My problem was keeping the fan from turning. I had a piece of steel that I fashioned for holding it, but trying to hold it and apply pressure to the extension holding the Allen wrench and keeping it square so it wouldn't

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-15 Thread Dan Penoff
I'm talking about my S500, so that is the M119. Is there a place for a pin or something to lock the pulley? Dan Sent from my iPad On May 15, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2013 10:44:50 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My problem was keeping

[MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Dieselhead
Alles, The fan on one of my 603s is getting noisy. I found a clutch and fan from an M104 3 Liter gasser. I am wondering if the fan and clutch will work reasonably well on the 3 liter Diesel. That is Q1. The second question is: Is it possible to replace the bearings on the fan clutch? I

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Nope, totally different design. If a replacement clutch doesn't fix the noise, you have a bad water pump, as the fan attaches to the water pump on the diesels. On the gassers, it's sitting on a bearing, water pump is on the other side. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Craig
On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:03:58 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Nope, totally different design. If a replacement clutch doesn't fix the noise, you have a bad water pump, as the fan attaches to the water pump on the diesels. On the gassers, it's sitting on a bearing, water

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Yes, just take the bolt out of the center. If you loosen the belt (easy on a 603) you can tell if the water pump is bad. Usually leaks if the bearings are out of it though. If the fan clutch rattles, replace it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Dieselhead
On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:03:58 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Nope, totally different design. If a replacement clutch doesn't fix the noise, you have a bad water pump, as the fan attaches to the water pump on the diesels. On the gassers, it's sitting on a bearing, water

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
Is it possible to replace the bearings on the fan clutch? I did on a 450 engine's clutch that is now in the Frankenheap. It looked particularly rebuildable, which is why I dug into it. After I finished I figured out that it was not thermostatic, and only RPM-driven. Not really what I wanted.

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Craig
On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:36:04 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to remove the clutch and fan, leaving only the water pump, so you can run the engine and see if the water pump is the problem? Craig Done. It is the fan. Don't want it to go through the radiator...