Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

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On Monday, August 3, 2020, 10:15:18 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
Speaking of shotguns, where in the world are these made?
Turkey? China?
My Mossberg (Western Field) pump was $100 in the Wards catalog, in 1976
dollars.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Speaking of shotguns, where in the world are these made?
Turkey? China?
My Mossberg (Western Field) pump was $100 in the Wards catalog, in 1976
dollars.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We have a couple of high school teams that shoot at my club, and they typically 
start the newbies out on a 20ga so they can build their technique. Some of them 
are very, very good.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sporting clays would be tough with a bolt action, it's all doubles.Actually 
> I'd like to see somebody try it, or with one of the Henry lever guns.
> Interestingly a 20 or 28ga isn't at a serious disadvantage in sporting clays 
> the way it is in trap. A lot of folks shoot a 20ga.
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, August 3, 2020, 7:32:11 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> On Mon, August 3, 2020 6:42 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U
>> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one
>> guy in my squad had a 28... -Curt
> 
> My brother bought a rather nice 28 double back in the 1980s. I'm trying to
> remember if it was O/U or S-S.
> 
> If only I were seriously good with a shotgun, I'd deal with fools like
> Dan's Beretta snob by outshooting them with my dad's bolt action Mossberg
> .410. But I'm the guy who hits 8 out of 25 with a 12ga pump.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've got one in 16ga.The problem, and the real reason I didn't buy a used gun, 
is that steel shot will pound the choke out of that gun in a season of heavy 
hunting. You could use bismuth shot at only $40 a box, steel is like $16...

-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 7:38:37 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 This is what you want :
IIRC, it also takes the 3 ½" shells. I had one in 12 ga. many years ago -
great gun.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/949392477/MARLIN-55-12GA-THE-ORIGINAL-MARLIN-GOOSE-GUN-36-INCH-FULL-CHOKE-EXCELLENT.htm

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_55

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking
> on my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I
> didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a
> win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably
> shouldn't have been shooting.
>
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really
> well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a
> BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver.
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool
> semi-humped receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the
> then chief of Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive
> gun I've ever bought.
>
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Sporting clays would be tough with a bolt action, it's all doubles.Actually 
I'd like to see somebody try it, or with one of the Henry lever guns.
Interestingly a 20 or 28ga isn't at a serious disadvantage in sporting clays 
the way it is in trap. A lot of folks shoot a 20ga.
-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 7:32:11 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, August 3, 2020 6:42 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

>
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one
> guy in my squad had a 28... -Curt

My brother bought a rather nice 28 double back in the 1980s. I'm trying to
remember if it was O/U or S-S.

If only I were seriously good with a shotgun, I'd deal with fools like
Dan's Beretta snob by outshooting them with my dad's bolt action Mossberg
.410. But I'm the guy who hits 8 out of 25 with a 12ga pump.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Dad had a Valmet for awhile. It didn't fit him well but I shot well with it. 
That's the only gun I ever remember him selling.I'm not saying he sold it 
because I shot it well, but...

-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 7:26:45 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, August 3, 2020 7:18 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>  started in with the "nothing but a Beretta" crap
> while everyone rolled their eyes.

You misspelled that. There's no "B" (or "T") in Perazzi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBDkRd-wJ78

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 There was a Mossberg in the running for this purchase but the long term 
reliability reports on it were poor where the reviews for the Browning included 
several torture tests "I shot 1100 rounds with no cleaning or added 
lubrication" and one "I shot 500+ rounds in the rain". Since this will be a 
field gun I wanted something that can take a licking which is also why I opted 
for a composite stock instead of wood.
My slug gun is a Mossberg 500, 1980s vintage, this purchase allows me to keep 
the slug barrel on that full time and not need to worry about losing scope zero 
changing barrels.
Oh, the other reason for an autoloader, at some point I'd like to go shoot snow 
geese. For that I'll get a 5 shot extension tube (10 shots total). Snow geese 
are such a plague that they have "conservation hunts" which are not to conserve 
snow geese, they're to preserve the habitat that snow geese destroy. The 
purpose of the hunts is to eliminate as many geese as possible so all the 
normal rules about ammunition limits and bag limits are gone.
I want to see the "goose tornado" where the sky blacks out with geese...

-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 7:19:31 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I’ve never paid a lot of attention, but it seems that the hard core guys that 
come out every weekend with their own golf carts and shooting vests and such 
all use O/Us. I got grouped with a guy at a fundraising shoot last year that 
was trashing everyone who didn’t have a Beretta. He made fun of my “import gun” 
even though he had never heard of Lanber (very well known in Europe and Down 
Under despite being out of business now). As most shooters would do, I offered 
to let him shoot it, but he refused and started in with the “nothing but a 
Beretta” crap while everyone rolled their eyes.

We all shot better than this guy. He was pretty quiet by the time we got to the 
last stand. It was clear he was a hack, as his stance, pull and other aspects 
of his form were all out of kilter. One of the other guys in our group offered 
in a very diplomatic manner to give him some pointers but the guy blew him off.

My former boss was the guy with the Mossberg and my shooting coach. He’s still 
shooting well with that gun, and has no desire to buy anything else. The idea 
that the more expensive a gun is makes you a better shooter will never offset 
poor technique or fit.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
> so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
> that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
> pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
> symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
> much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That at 
> least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
> 
> For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
> dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
> count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting 
> buddy has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 
> 
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one guy 
> in my squad had a 28...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
> that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due 
> to the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays 
> it has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a 
> stand anyway.
> 
> Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
> really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
> spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
> which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.
> 
> A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
> You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit 
> the side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but 
> after my urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with 
> a Mossberg that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and 
> right on his first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and 
> worth every penny.
> 
> Pictures or it didn’t happen….
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> > my over and under 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Mon, August 3, 2020 7:32 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Heh. Or it could be like the English hand made side by side one of my
> former business partners had that set him back some stupid amount of
> money, like $8k.

Do high born Brits still look down on you if you show up to shoot live
birds with an O/U instead of a SxS? Or these days, are they just happy you
didn't bring a pump or autoloader?

I shouldn't pick on the Brits.
They did, after all, invent the Shooting Brake.
https://www.motor1.com/news/94205/one-off-ferrari-daytona-shooting-brake-heads-to-auction/
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[OK Don via Mercedes]

This is what you want :
IIRC, it also takes the 3 ½" shells. I had one in 12 ga. many years ago -
great gun.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/949392477/MARLIN-55-12GA-THE-ORIGINAL-MARLIN-GOOSE-GUN-36-INCH-FULL-CHOKE-EXCELLENT.htm

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_55

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking
> on my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I
> didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a
> win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably
> shouldn't have been shooting.
>
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really
> well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a
> BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver.
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool
> semi-humped receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the
> then chief of Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive
> gun I've ever bought.
>
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m sort of like Ty, Chevy Chase’s character in Caddyshack. Not that I’m that 
good, but I go shooting to have fun and enjoy myself. I rarely keep score 
unless I’m required to, like in a fundraiser meet or something like that. When 
I do I’m usually around 6-7 out of 10, maybe 8 on a really good day.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, August 3, 2020 6:42 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U
>> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one
>> guy in my squad had a 28... -Curt
> 
> My brother bought a rather nice 28 double back in the 1980s. I'm trying to
> remember if it was O/U or S-S.
> 
> If only I were seriously good with a shotgun, I'd deal with fools like
> Dan's Beretta snob by outshooting them with my dad's bolt action Mossberg
> .410. But I'm the guy who hits 8 out of 25 with a 12ga pump.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heh. Or it could be like the English hand made side by side one of my former 
business partners had that set him back some stupid amount of money, like $8k. 
I shot grouse with him a couple of seasons and shot the gun myself. It was nice 
and a beautiful firearm, but I did almost as well as he did with a gun that 
cost probably a tenth of what he paid.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, August 3, 2020 7:18 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> started in with the "nothing but a Beretta" crap
>> while everyone rolled their eyes.
> 
> You misspelled that. There's no "B" (or "T") in Perazzi.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBDkRd-wJ78
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Mon, August 3, 2020 6:42 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

>
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one
> guy in my squad had a 28... -Curt

My brother bought a rather nice 28 double back in the 1980s. I'm trying to
remember if it was O/U or S-S.

If only I were seriously good with a shotgun, I'd deal with fools like
Dan's Beretta snob by outshooting them with my dad's bolt action Mossberg
.410. But I'm the guy who hits 8 out of 25 with a 12ga pump.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Mon, August 3, 2020 7:18 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>  started in with the "nothing but a Beretta" crap
> while everyone rolled their eyes.

You misspelled that. There's no "B" (or "T") in Perazzi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBDkRd-wJ78

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve never paid a lot of attention, but it seems that the hard core guys that 
come out every weekend with their own golf carts and shooting vests and such 
all use O/Us. I got grouped with a guy at a fundraising shoot last year that 
was trashing everyone who didn’t have a Beretta. He made fun of my “import gun” 
even though he had never heard of Lanber (very well known in Europe and Down 
Under despite being out of business now). As most shooters would do, I offered 
to let him shoot it, but he refused and started in with the “nothing but a 
Beretta” crap while everyone rolled their eyes.

We all shot better than this guy. He was pretty quiet by the time we got to the 
last stand. It was clear he was a hack, as his stance, pull and other aspects 
of his form were all out of kilter. One of the other guys in our group offered 
in a very diplomatic manner to give him some pointers but the guy blew him off.

My former boss was the guy with the Mossberg and my shooting coach. He’s still 
shooting well with that gun, and has no desire to buy anything else. The idea 
that the more expensive a gun is makes you a better shooter will never offset 
poor technique or fit.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
> so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
> that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
> pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
> symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
> much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That at 
> least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
> 
> For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
> dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
> count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting 
> buddy has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 
> 
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one guy 
> in my squad had a 28...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
> that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due 
> to the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays 
> it has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a 
> stand anyway.
> 
> Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
> really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
> spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
> which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.
> 
> A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
> You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit 
> the side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but 
> after my urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with 
> a Mossberg that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and 
> right on his first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and 
> worth every penny.
> 
> Pictures or it didn’t happen….
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> > my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
> > poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I 
> > didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a 
> > win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably 
> > shouldn't have been shooting.
> > 
> > I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really 
> > well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a 
> > BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
> > https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html 
> > 
> > The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool semi-humped 
> > receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the then chief of 
> > Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> > The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones 
> > are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee 
> > here I'll be just over $1000.
> > I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive 
> > gun I've ever bought.
> > 
> > Hopefully 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That at 
least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting buddy 
has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 

Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one guy 
in my squad had a 28...
-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due to 
the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays it 
has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a stand 
anyway.

Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.

A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit the 
side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but after my 
urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with a Mossberg 
that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and right on his 
first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and worth every 
penny.

Pictures or it didn’t happen….

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I didn't 
> even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a win. In my 
> defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably shouldn't have been 
> shooting.
> 
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really well 
> that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a BUNCH of 
> research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool semi-humped 
> receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the then chief of 
> Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones 
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee 
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive gun 
> I've ever bought.
> 
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due to 
the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays it 
has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a stand 
anyway.

Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.

A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit the 
side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but after my 
urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with a Mossberg 
that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and right on his 
first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and worth every 
penny.

Pictures or it didn’t happen….

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I didn't 
> even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a win. In my 
> defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably shouldn't have been 
> shooting.
> 
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really well 
> that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a BUNCH of 
> research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool semi-humped 
> receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the then chief of 
> Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones 
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee 
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive gun 
> I've ever bought.
> 
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks very nice to me, never shot an auto-loader shotgun though.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking
> on my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I
> didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a
> win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably
> shouldn't have been shooting.
>
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really
> well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a
> BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver.
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool
> semi-humped receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the
> then chief of Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive
> gun I've ever bought.
>
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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[MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on my 
over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot poorly 
enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I didn't even 
bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a win. In my 
defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably shouldn't have been 
shooting.

I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really well 
that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a BUNCH of 
research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool semi-humped 
receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the then chief of 
Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones are 
but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee here I'll 
be just over $1000.
I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive gun 
I've ever bought.

Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
-Curt
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