Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Any of the video representations took the cleverness out of the books "Going 
Postal" is a good example.  Brilliant book, dumb movie...
Curt

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  On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 6:25 PM, Clay wrote:   Sir 
Terry was a master.  He could punish the reader mercilessly.  It is too bad his 
Discworld novels did not get better representation on TV.  The treatments that 
have surfaced just do not capture the magic well.
He saw into the future as well
In a 1995 interview with Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, Pratchett expressed 
concern about the potential spread of misinformationonline. He felt that there 
was a "kind of parity of esteem of information" on the internet, and gave the 
example of holocaust denial being presented on the same terms as peer-reviewed 
research, with no easy way to gauge reliability. Gates disagreed, saying that 
online authorities would index and check facts and sources in a much more 
sophisticated way than in print. The interview was rediscovered in 2019, and 
seen by Pratchett's biographer as prescient of fake news.[77]


Clay


On Nov 7, 2021, at 5:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:
Adams was heavily influenced by Sir Terry Pratchett, apparently they were well 
aquatinted.
Adams had at least two infocomm games.
Curt
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

[Clay via Mercedes]

Sir Terry was a master.  He could punish the reader mercilessly.  It is too bad 
his Discworld novels did not get better representation on TV.  The treatments 
that have surfaced just do not capture the magic well.

He saw into the future as well

In a 1995 interview with Microsoft  
co-founder Bill Gates , Pratchett 
expressed concern about the potential spread of misinformation 
online. He felt that there was a 
"kind of parity of esteem of information" on the internet, and gave the example 
of holocaust denial  being 
presented on the same terms as peer-reviewed 
 research, with no easy way to gauge 
reliability. Gates disagreed, saying that online authorities would index and 
check facts and sources in a much more sophisticated way than in print. The 
interview was rediscovered in 2019, and seen by Pratchett's biographer as 
prescient of fake news .[77] 




Clay


> On Nov 7, 2021, at 5:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Adams was heavily influenced by Sir Terry Pratchett, apparently they were 
> well aquatinted.
> Adams had at least two infocomm games.
> Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

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Adams was heavily influenced by Sir Terry Pratchett, apparently they were well 
aquatinted.
Adams had at least two infocomm games.
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   Douglas Adams seems to have had 
outsize impact despite books that never
really made any popular movies and dying early.

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 3:36 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I agree that he did not have a major impact on film. But he has had a
> lasting cultural influence. Was the Webb song named for his novel? And he
> certainly gave us the TANSTAAFL acronym.
>
> Greg
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>
> As much as I like and respect RAH's work, I don't see much of his influence
> in current (pop) culture _via_ the movies that were made.  (My original
> thesis.)
>
> I'm waffling on Burroughs.  The ripples are dying out.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

[Clay via Mercedes]

Adams was quite well regarded in his native England, producing both multiple 
radio and TV renditions of his writings, as well as two motion pictures of the 
Hitchhikers guide.

Clay

“A towel, [The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy] says, is about the most 
massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great 
practical value. You can wrap it around you for warmth as you bound across the 
cold moons of Jaglan Beta; you can lie on it on the brilliant marble-sanded 
beaches of Santraginus V, inhaling the heady sea vapors; you can sleep under it 
beneath the stars which shine so redly on the desert world of Kakrafoon; use it 
to sail a miniraft down the slow heavy River Moth; wet it for use in 
hand-to-hand-combat; wrap it round your head to ward off noxious fumes or avoid 
the gaze of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (such a mind-boggingly 
stupid animal, it assumes that if you can't see it, it can't see you); you can 
wave your towel in emergencies as a distress signal, and of course dry yourself 
off with it if it still seems to be clean enough.”




> On Nov 6, 2021, at 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Douglas Adams seems to have had outsize impact despite books that never
> really made any popular movies and dying early.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 3:36 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I agree that he did not have a major impact on film. But he has had a
>> lasting cultural influence. Was the Webb song named for his novel? And he
>> certainly gave us the TANSTAAFL acronym.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
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>> Cathey via Mercedes
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>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences
>> 
>> As much as I like and respect RAH's work, I don't see much of his influence
>> in current (pop) culture _via_ the movies that were made.  (My original
>> thesis.)
>> 
>> I'm waffling on Burroughs.  The ripples are dying out.
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Douglas Adams seems to have had outsize impact despite books that never
really made any popular movies and dying early.

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 3:36 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I agree that he did not have a major impact on film. But he has had a
> lasting cultural influence. Was the Webb song named for his novel? And he
> certainly gave us the TANSTAAFL acronym.
>
> Greg
>
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> Cathey via Mercedes
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences
>
> As much as I like and respect RAH's work, I don't see much of his influence
> in current (pop) culture _via_ the movies that were made.  (My original
> thesis.)
>
> I'm waffling on Burroughs.  The ripples are dying out.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

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I agree that he did not have a major impact on film. But he has had a
lasting cultural influence. Was the Webb song named for his novel? And he
certainly gave us the TANSTAAFL acronym. 

Greg

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As much as I like and respect RAH's work, I don't see much of his influence
in current (pop) culture _via_ the movies that were made.  (My original
thesis.)

I'm waffling on Burroughs.  The ripples are dying out.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

And somehow I left out Michael Crichton.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

As much as I like and respect RAH's work, I don't see much of his influence
in current (pop) culture _via_ the movies that were made.  (My original thesis.)

I'm waffling on Burroughs.  The ripples are dying out.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

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There has been a lot of discussion that the Terminator series was based on some 
of Dick's work. BTW, IMO the series is pretty great SciFi film.

Greg

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Edgar Rice Burroughs
Bradbury called him "the most influential writer in the entire history of the 
world."
-Curt

On Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 08:32:31 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 > Philip Dick

Hard to think of authors who have had more influence on our culture, pop or
otherwise, by way of movies, than him.  IMHO there's a short list he's on,
here in no particular order:

Philip K. Dick
Ian Fleming
J.K. Rowling
J.R.R. Tolkien
Mary Shelley
Stephen King

That doesn't even begin to consider those whose influence wasn't primarily via 
movies,
such as Clarke, Heinlein, Asimov, Verne, Wells, Shakespeare...

One could argue lists like these for days!  I only put a few minutes' thought 
into this,
I'm sure I left out plenty.  Or, put in too many?  Discuss.  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Don't forget "Destination Moon".
I loved Starship Troopers, both the books and the movie. Imagine my surprise 
when reading "Grumbles from the Grave" to find that RAH hated the book. Thought 
it was his weakest work to date. I guess that says something about the quality 
of his work in general.
Friday is one of my favorite RAH works...
-Curt

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 wrote:  
 
 They filmed Heinlein's Starship Troopers and Puppet Masters. I'm sort of 
hoping for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress or Stranger in a Strange Land. 
And I think Friday could be better than Blade Runner.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

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They filmed Heinlein's Starship Troopers and Puppet Masters. I'm sort of 
hoping for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress or Stranger in a Strange Land. 
And I think Friday could be better than Blade Runner.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie influences

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Edgar Rice Burroughs
Bradbury called him "the most influential writer in the entire history of the 
world."
-Curt

On Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 08:32:31 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 > Philip Dick

Hard to think of authors who have had more influence on our culture, pop or
otherwise, by way of movies, than him.  IMHO there's a short list he's on,
here in no particular order:

Philip K. Dick
Ian Fleming
J.K. Rowling
J.R.R. Tolkien
Mary Shelley
Stephen King

That doesn't even begin to consider those whose influence wasn't primarily via 
movies,
such as Clarke, Heinlein, Asimov, Verne, Wells, Shakespeare...

One could argue lists like these for days!  I only put a few minutes' thought 
into this,
I'm sure I left out plenty.  Or, put in too many?  Discuss.  :-)

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT: Movie influences

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Philip Dick

Hard to think of authors who have had more influence on our culture, pop or
otherwise, by way of movies, than him.  IMHO there's a short list he's on,
here in no particular order:

Philip K. Dick
Ian Fleming
J.K. Rowling
J.R.R. Tolkien
Mary Shelley
Stephen King

That doesn't even begin to consider those whose influence wasn't primarily via 
movies,
such as Clarke, Heinlein, Asimov, Verne, Wells, Shakespeare...

One could argue lists like these for days!  I only put a few minutes' thought 
into this,
I'm sure I left out plenty.  Or, put in too many?  Discuss.  :-)

-- Jim


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