Re: [MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold

2006-02-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Hey Johnny,
   
  Have you ever tried the Powerservice 911, the stuff in the red bottle? It 
purports Reliquefies gelled fuel in minutes - no tow truck needed  I'm 
curious how that would work, like if you've got gelled fuel in the filter how 
does the stuff get there?
  They've got a great animation on their website www.powerservice.com that 
shows a test tube demo but its not like you can pick up and shake your car...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:29:19 -0500
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   I've had trouble with sitting cars starting in dead cold when they 
were last fueled prior to winterized fuel season. I let a couple of 
cars wait until spring before starting them one year.


Johnny B.
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On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 Hey Johnny,

   Have you ever tried the Powerservice 911, the stuff in the red 
 bottle? It purports Reliquefies gelled fuel in minutes - no tow truck 
 needed  I'm curious how that would work, like if you've got gelled 
 fuel in the filter how does the stuff get there?
   They've got a great animation on their website www.powerservice.com 
 that shows a test tube demo but its not like you can pick up and shake 
 your car...

   -Curt


I've used it for algae/h2o but without enough heat the fuel will not 
flow, so the cure can't get to the problem.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold

2006-02-02 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Real common for VW diesels to get sticky rings, especially if you are 
getting oil smell in the exhaust.Compression will drop and get hard to 
start and act just as you describe.
Best thing I've found is Auto RX to clean them out ( www.auto-rx.com ) 
costy but it really works. Liqui Moly sells a cleaner called Oil Schlamm 
spulung that does a fair job but doesn't get it all.


Robert

Dave M. wrote:

Hi all,

My 1981 VW Dasher diesel (1.5L, mechanical lifters) has been getting
crankier on cold starts lately. I did a valve adjustment a few months
ago to get things in spec so that shouldn't be a problem. Power and
MPG is normal (42-45mpg). It's just the cold starts that are a
problem.

When the car sits overnight, I'll do 2-3 glow cycles when it's cold
(30-40F), and I have a rudimentary 'afterglow' setup as well. But when
I start it, it runs quite rough, and smokes terribly for a good 10-15
seconds. I need to keep my foot halfway down to keep it running at all
until it smooths out. And for the first 30-45 seconds, it may even
misfire at times. The afterglow doesn't change things, it acts the
same with or with the plugs on when cold. The smoke is
blueish/whitish, and smells of both engine oil and fuel, so I can't
pin down what the cause is.

Warm starts are fine, glow plugs are all good and verified with
ohmmeter AND current draw test, and the car doesn't smoke
significantly when warm.

Any ideas?

:-(

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Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold

2006-02-02 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 03:43:03 -0600 Robert  Tara Ludwick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Real common for VW diesels to get sticky rings, especially if you are 
 getting oil smell in the exhaust.Compression will drop and get hard to 
 start and act just as you describe.
 Best thing I've found is Auto RX to clean them out ( www.auto-rx.com ) 
 costy but it really works. Liqui Moly sells a cleaner called Oil Schlamm
 spulung that does a fair job but doesn't get it all.

How about changing to Mobil 1 and driving it like you stole it?



Craig



[MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold

2006-02-01 Thread Dave M.
Hi all,

My 1981 VW Dasher diesel (1.5L, mechanical lifters) has been getting
crankier on cold starts lately. I did a valve adjustment a few months
ago to get things in spec so that shouldn't be a problem. Power and
MPG is normal (42-45mpg). It's just the cold starts that are a
problem.

When the car sits overnight, I'll do 2-3 glow cycles when it's cold
(30-40F), and I have a rudimentary 'afterglow' setup as well. But when
I start it, it runs quite rough, and smokes terribly for a good 10-15
seconds. I need to keep my foot halfway down to keep it running at all
until it smooths out. And for the first 30-45 seconds, it may even
misfire at times. The afterglow doesn't change things, it acts the
same with or with the plugs on when cold. The smoke is
blueish/whitish, and smells of both engine oil and fuel, so I can't
pin down what the cause is.

Warm starts are fine, glow plugs are all good and verified with
ohmmeter AND current draw test, and the car doesn't smoke
significantly when warm.

Any ideas?

:-(

--
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)



Re: [MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 03:21 PM, Dave M. wrote:


Any ideas?

:-(



Maybe a leaky injector. Does it feel like compression is up to snuff?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
I am having difficulty starting the Quantum the last couple of days. I think
it is due to a leaking fuel return line at the tank -- letting air into the
system. You don't have an air leak anywhere, do you?

On 2/1/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 03:21 PM, Dave M. wrote:

  Any ideas?
 
  :-(
 

 Maybe a leaky injector. Does it feel like compression is up to
 snuff?

 Johnny B.
 I Mac Therefore I am
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