Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-20 Thread R A Bennell
or so. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft I am surprised it is so small. I would expect

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-20 Thread Tyler Backman
I'd say it's the performance of the hardware that makes your sons new HP laptop run vista well (rather than the quality). Vista is so bloated and slow that it requires all of the resources of the fastest new computers to just perform basic tasks like web browsing. A truly excellent

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-20 Thread R A Bennell
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tyler Backman Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft I'd say it's the performance of the hardware that makes your sons new HP laptop run vista well

[MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Over 1/3 of people who buy Vista end up downgrading to XP. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9112885 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
not quite surprising. consider the idea of apple making os x available for all machines. now would be the time. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over 1/3 of people who buy Vista end up downgrading to XP.

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Loren Faeth
I am surprised it is so small. I would expect at least 1/2 of the sucker to side-grade (upgrade?) to XP. If 1/3 change, and 1/3 switch to make vista behave as 2000 (classic) then the rest are just stuck, or maybe a few actually like it. At 03:12 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote: Over 1/3 of people

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Peter T . Arnold
As for me, I'd like to sidegrade from XPMedia to XP-pro, I just need the disc as I bought 4 legitimate product code. I've been unabvle to get a bootable disc. Pete On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:12:20 -0400, you wrote: Over 1/3 of people who buy Vista end up downgrading to XP.

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:12:20 -0400, Allan wrote: Over 1/3 of people who buy Vista end up downgrading to XP. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9112885 I wonder how many see the light and give up on Microsoft altogether and use a

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Peter T . Arnold
The problem with that is that many of us are tethered to M/S due to our career choices. If a system you are using to earn the money that you need to buy food and beer is only M/S comparable, you have no whichway to turn. Pete On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:27:42 -0500, you wrote: It seems than at Tue,

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Redghost
OS X of the Leopard style is pretty much compatible with current intel chips. This has allowed a bunch of folks to build OS X peecee for $600 that blows the doors off the Apple computers. Not at all legal as far as EULA, but who gives a rip? clay On 19 Aug 2008, at 13:16, Gary Hurst

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have been thinking about downgrading myself. Wonder what kind of hassle that would be on an established machine? I tried wiping the drive and installing xp when I first got this machine but my sound and video did not work right. Loren Faeth wrote: I am surprised it is so small. I would

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
my guess is few. casual users tend not to be aware that they have options beyond MS even i have to use xp more than i'd like as some stuff i need to use seems to only work on xp. i'd use mandriva 90% of hte time otherwise. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
Glory, glory hallelujah! D. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how many see the light and give up on Microsoft altogether and use a real OS like GNU/Linux or BSD? -- Philip -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
Crossover Office. Period. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with that is that many of us are tethered to M/S due to our career choices. If a system you are using to earn the money that you need to buy food and beer is only M/S comparable,

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
it doesn't work with lots of stuff. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crossover Office. Period. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with that is that many of us are tethered to M/S due to our career

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Lee Einer
Count me among them. Unless you count that whole spontaneous crash thing, there is not much you can do on Micro$oft that you can't do on Linux. I haven't used Microsoft at home for at least a decade. Lee On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how many

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
i have connections to vendors that only seem to work on windoze. i also run my P2P television stuff on windoze. im' sure there are a few other things as well. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Count me among them. Unless you count that whole spontaneous

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Lee Einer
Googling P2P television linux returns 1.7 million hits. I have no interest myself, but I am pretty sure if you want p2p television on linux you can have it. Lee Gary Hurst wrote: i have connections to vendors that only seem to work on windoze. i also run my P2P television stuff on windoze.

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, but not always exactly what i'm looking for On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Googling P2P television linux returns 1.7 million hits. I have no interest myself, but I am pretty sure if you want p2p television on linux you can have it. Lee Gary

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Kevin Kraly
My Toshiba laptop (one of the last XP models) is doing just fine, and I had to search all over town to find it since Pista...er...Vista had already taken hold. I bought it after returning a model that was running Vista which was incompatible with my screenreader and speech synthesizer. My

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft

2008-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
i got my laptop on the last day dell was shipping XP without a premium charge for it On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Toshiba laptop (one of the last XP models) is doing just fine, and I had to search all over town to find it since Pista...er...Vista