Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I seem to recall that Shemya was four hours different from Anchorage at one time. I know the difference between there and east coast was substantial, as I recall watching evening network shows on satellite feeds in the late morning. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:45 PM, Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-11 Thread clay via Mercedes
For giggles Alaska has one time zone. They used to have four, but that made for issues doing business.Now it is all based on SE. Sun up in Juneau is the same time as the last island in the Aleutian chain. Sun will not get up for four more hours. And to make it all even stupider, they do

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:14:22 -0700 clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: For giggles Alaska has one time zone. They used to have four, but that made for issues doing business.Now it is all based on SE. Sun up in Juneau is the same time as the last island in the Aleutian chain.

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
They do show the western Aleutians as being in a separate time zone. I was wondering about that, since they used to be several time zones west of Anchorage when I visited them. That is a LONG way out there from the mainland. Nice place to visit, but believe me, you don't want to stay

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-11 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The time zones get pretty small when you get far north, and the Aleutian Islands string out over several. I had a friend stationed on Attu, I think, same time as the west coast only 4 daylight hours off. Not a problem in the summer when night is only a few hours long, but made for very

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Ahhh Now I finally understand the mentality behind it all... Social engineering through legislation We all know that works to everyones advantage, don't we. IMHO, it's on the same scale as slave masters forcing their slaves to pick cotton under a full moon to get a few extra hours

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If it had been Sen. Grassley I am sure you both would have embraced the legislation. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's Sen. Malarkey (or Malahkey) --R On 3/9/15 12:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Excited about

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The response to this post is if anything, more disappointing than I had imagined. Try putting aside your partisanship and evaluate an idea on its merits for a change. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If it had been Sen. Grassley I am sure you both

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
More blue sky thinking from the folks that (briefly) thought that seat belts on motorcycles was a good idea.Cynical? Me? Nah! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 12:31:06 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That's Sen. Malarkey (or Malahkey) --R On 3/9/15 12:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Excited about daylight saving time? Thank Sen. Markey ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
There you have the crux of the matter - there is no country without DC. You might like your State, but mine is run by total wacko's that make DC look like paradise. The idea of States was born when each one thought it ought to be it's own country. It wouldn't work then and won't work now. I don't

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Da GMann sez: Statehood? The country would be better served if the Corporation of DC would do a succession. By all appearance, it has declared war on the 50 states, I propose that DC be dissolved completely and that federal government be conducted in a different state capital on a

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I lived in the Peoples Demokratic Republik of Massachusetts for a number of years and lived and worked in the Peoples Republik of Kambridge for some years as well. I know all about Malarkey, but somehow I missed that he had become a senatah, having won the position vacated by the

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Right. our kids went to school in the dark anyway - special activities, etc. So what. I went to school and work in the dark. So what. Yes, there is no economic reason for the change one way or the other, only gaining more daylight in the evening - which is great for those locked in an office all

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Only political responses have been from you, andrew. Rich changing Markey to Malarky is not political. I don't know anything about Markey or his politics. Don't know if Rich does. Nothing political about it sucks The response to this post is if anything, more disappointing than I had

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
With perpetual DST, there would be a lot of children walking to school and waiting for the bus in the dark, especially on the western edges of time zones. Frankly (unlike 1940) most jobs do not depend on daylight and office buildings are artificially lit regardless of outside light (so energy

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Everyone should move into the same time zone - the Washington, D.C. metro area This not only obviates the need to bicker about time zones but also broadens our tax base while providing a broad constituency to grant D.C. Statehood. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
evaluate an idea on its merits for a change. I'll be glad to. With no partisanship, because, regardless of what government genius came up with this idea to save energy they were thoughtless and clueless. 1. Thousands of man hours of work are diverted each day with daylight savings plan simply

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Click and Clack had a great idea for replacing DST, basically it was a week-day thing, so we spent less time at work and more time at home (or napping at work). I think they also figured out how to make the work-week shorter and weekends longer. Now THERE is an idea with merit! -Max

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I agree with some of what you say - specifically, the lobbying part. Why don't you move here and start an anti lobbying lobby group, funded by thrifty libertarian owners of used Mercedes diesels? On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 3:57 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Statehood? The country would be

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We should advance the clocks an hour evey year. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 3:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: DST is not the problem, the problem is changing the clocks twice a year. DST is great, since we would never get all the businesses and government offices to work

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Ouch. That was a low blow. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Da GMann sez: Statehood? The country would be better served if the Corporation of DC would do a succession. By all appearance, it has declared war on the 50 states, I

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Malahkey is what Howie Carr (Cah) calls him, it's a time-honored tradition in the Bahstahn area. Is he a senatah now? I don't know Grassley or anything about him, and even if I did, DST is a stupid idea no matter which of the congresscritters supports it. --R (a timely non-partisan) On

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
DST is not the problem, the problem is changing the clocks twice a year. DST is great, since we would never get all the businesses and government offices to work 7-4 instead of 8-5. Getting home earlier to have another hour before dark is great. Emotionally it's harder to get to work at 7 than 8,

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Statehood? The country would be better served if the Corporation of DC would do a succession. By all appearance, it has declared war on the 50 states, I propose that DC be dissolved completely and that federal government be conducted in a different state capital on a rotational basis, like the

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 15:41:32 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: With perpetual DST, there would be a lot of children walking to school and waiting for the bus in the dark, especially on the western edges of time zones. I remember waiting for the Inglewood City Bus

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Or we could simply use the natural hours of daylight in the equal spaced time zones the railroads invented a century and a half ago and leave the damned clocks alone. If you think it needs to be light when the kids get on the bus to go to school, adjust

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time. The response to this post is if anything, more disappointing than I had imagined.  Try putting aside your partisanship and evaluate an idea on its merits for a change. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Actually almost all the real work (education, transportation, professional regulation, law enforcement, etc.) is done at the state level and below. God help us if we try to run all that from DC. Didn't the USSR try something similar? -Original Message- From: OK Don via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You mean that doesn't work? On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Or we could simply use the natural hours of daylight in the equal spaced time zones the railroads invented a century and a half ago and

Re: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings time.

2015-03-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
time. More blue sky thinking from the folks that (briefly) thought that seat belts on motorcycles was a good idea.Cynical? Me? Nah! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 12:31:06 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: The force behind early daylight savings