Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-06 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Dec 5, 2014 8:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Could be legit. I wonder if rubber cement would work or if the solvent would eat the record. Maybe liquid latex? Its pretty benign stuff. This cat says wood glue, I've heard that before also:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-05 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not that I know, but then again, I buy enterprise grade drives for my RAIDs. I guess the consumer grade stuff could be wonky like that. Enterprise grade fails too, but shipping mixes them up so customers

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-05 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: For what it's worth, Sansa portable audio players, and BlackBerry phones are able to play FLAC files. (Another excellent reason to ditch Android and Apple). I've played FLAC on Android. I normally use MX

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-05 Thread clay via Mercedes
It may be fake, but I recall a CSI episode where elmers glue was used on a rare jazz record to clean it up. Spread it along the grooves to make a thin skin, which goes deep into the groove and grabs all the kruft. Once dry, just peal it up and the recording is like new. OR just hollywood

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
, December 5, 2014 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital It may be fake, but I recall a CSI episode where elmers glue was used on a rare jazz record to clean it up.  Spread it along the grooves to make a thin skin, which goes deep into the groove and grabs all the kruft.  Once dry

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
If you want to store the files on a hard drive, and never need to make a cd or dvd, (or mp3 player) wouldn't it be possible to save the file as a .wav analog file and play that on demand? Or is the .wav way to big to do this? It seems to me that other than file size, the .wav might be the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: If you want to store the files on a hard drive, and never need to make a cd or dvd, (or mp3 player) wouldn't it be possible to save the file as a .wav analog file and play that on demand? Or is the .wav way to big to do this? If you want to get rid of the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Put them on a RAID. Dan who backs up backups Sent from my iPad On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you want to get rid of the LPs, you don't want to put it on ONE hard drive. Nor do you want to put it on two hard drives which were made on

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
or 3 raids, each in a different state. A single raid can be taken out when the controller fails. But, you didn't answer my questions about archiving and file size. Put them on a RAID. Dan who backs up backups Sent from my iPad On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread G. M. Brown via Mercedes
I can remember when I was somewhat of an audiophile that one could still prefer vinyl over a CD played via a Mark Levinson ($25K) CD player, so I can't relate to the interest(s) in converting to digital files. Other than live performances, I prefer good recordings played back via good

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Put them on a RAID. Any truth to the stories of people buying a pair of matching disks, configuring them in RAID 1, and having them both die within a day of each other? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not that I know, but then again, I buy enterprise grade drives for my RAIDs. I guess the consumer grade stuff could be wonky like that. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 4, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Put them on a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Does anyone have the answer to Curly's question? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you want to store the files on a hard drive, and never need to make a cd or dvd, (or mp3 player) wouldn't it be possible to save the file as a .wav

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Yes! I have even had identical hard drives in different machines die within days of each other. These were seagate ide. It appears they had a cyanide pill programmed into the software to kill the drive after 10 years. I don't believe that each drive just happened to die of natural causes

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
FLAC files are like a WAV file, but smaller. Here's a good explanation: http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-flac-the-high-def-mp3-explained/ Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:05 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone have the answer to Curly's question?

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
OK Don wrote: Keep us informed of your progress - I have a bunch of 78's to digitize, as well as some LPs, but haven't gotten started yet. Perhaps someday when I get bored . . . Don - I have stacks of classical 78s that are waiting to be played on my antique Dual turntable once I set it up in my

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G. M. Brown via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 10:06 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital I can remember when I was somewhat of an audiophile

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Put them on a RAID. Any truth to the stories of people buying a pair of matching disks, configuring them in RAID 1, and having them both die within a day of each other? Mitch. ___ http

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I think the MSFT player will do wav OK, and VLC will play about anything. I listened in my truck this afternoon to a ripped vinyl -- CD of Mississippi Fred McDowell I Do Not Play No Rock'n'Roll I made years ago. Sounded quite good aside from a few burps here and there that might have been

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Audacity will take a 78 played at 45 and turn it into the proper speed. I ripped some old 78s I got at a yard sale on my turntable that only does 33 and 45, nothing particularly interesting, but it worked OK. --R On 12/4/14 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: OK Don wrote: Keep

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Curly wrote: If you want to store the files on a hard drive, and never need to make a cd or dvd, (or mp3 player) wouldn't it be possible to save the file as a .wav analog file and play that on demand? Or is the .wav way to big to do this? You could. But a FLAC is a smaller file plus has

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
OK wrote: Does anyone have the answer to Curly's question? Yes. I'm just slow. *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Greg wrote: Much of our collection other than classical music has been rode hard and put away wet. The audio restoration software of Sound Forge produces a remarkable improvement in the listenability of these LPs. A step I forgot to mention is to wash the LP. Use dish soap, warm water,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎  Original Message   From: fmiser via Mercedes Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital A step I forgot to mention is to wash the LP. Record cleaners (NOT CHEAP!) http://www.musicdirect.com/c-562-record-cleaning-machines.aspx http://www.nittygrittyinc.com/index.html http

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Aren't 78s shellac? Do you wash them with water also? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ‎ Original Message From: fmiser via Mercedes Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital A step I forgot to mention is to wash the LP

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
or 3 raids, each in a different state. A single raid can be taken out when the controller fails. Our RAID is purely software, built into Mac OSX. You can take one of the disks and put it into any SATA Mac and read it, no problems. Though not the highest-performance solution, it was the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-04 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
OK Don wrote: Keep us informed of your progress - I have a bunch of 78's to digitize, as well as some LPs, but haven't gotten started yet. Perhaps someday when I get bored . . . Rich wrote: Audacity will take a 78 played at 45 and turn it into the proper speed. I ripped some old

[MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Listers: I know that some of you are audiophiles to some degree. So this is directed at you. We have an eclectic collection of LPs of all types of music. A while back I bought my wife (the main music lover) a cheap ION USB turntable. She already had a good quality component turntable, but

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I have my 40yo Pioneer turntable (quite nice) hooked up to my 20yo Sony receiver and thence to my iMac. I occasionally rip a vinyl album using Audacity then export an MP3 to iTunes, which is sorta crappy way to do it but it works OK. I have some CDs I have made in the past using the same

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I don't, other than to say that most of the music I currently have in electronic form has been transcoded from analog to FLAC. I can hear the difference between MP3 and FLAC formats, and my hearing is pretty lousy in one ear. I used to have a pretty big vintage setup with a Fisher 400,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎  Original Message   From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:40 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital ‎Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I am curious if any of you have experience

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The EAC would be used in place of Audacity? Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:40 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
, 2014 4:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital I don't, other than to say that most of the music I currently have in electronic form has been transcoded from analog to FLAC. I can hear the difference between MP3 and FLAC formats, and my hearing

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Keep us informed of your progress - I have a bunch of 78's to digitize, as well as some LPs, but haven't gotten started yet. Perhaps someday when I get bored . . . On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks for the FLAC tip, as Rick also

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message   From: Curly McLain via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 7:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital   The EAC would be used in place of Audacity?‎ In addition to. Audacity is used to create wav

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
LPs to Digital ‎Original Message From: Curly McLain via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 7:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital The EAC would be used in place of Audacity?‎ In addition to. Audacity is used to create

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
: Transcoding LPs to Digital The EAC would be used in place of Audacity? In addition to. Audacity is used to create wav (analog) files from the vinyl records. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is used to convert the wav files to mp3, flac, etc. digital files. I have used EAC for converting (ripping) cd's

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Greg wrote: We have an eclectic collection of LPs of all types of music. ... then saved them to MP3 files Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I am curious if any of you have experience with this activity to share. Yeah. Don't use MP3, certainly not for archive master. If you

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Curly McLain wrote: The EAC would be used in place of Audacity?‎ Rick wrote: In addition to. Audacity is used to create wav (analog) files from the vinyl records. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is used to convert the wav files to mp3, flac, etc. digital files. I have used EAC for converting

Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-03 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
to FLAC. Thanks to all. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of fmiser via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 10:12 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rick Knoble Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital Curly McLain wrote