Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
Jim (James) Mahaffey - the older dude that taught at Georgia Tech and wrote the book about the atomic accidents. He used to repair and rebuild clocks for older MBs. -D > On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Nothing coming up on my searches in Atlanta. > > Found this place... http://dandmrestoration.com/services/clocks/ > > Sent them an email > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, at 2:34 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> There’s always Jim what's his face in Atlanta. Doesn’t he work on these >> clocks? >> >> -D >> >>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Had the clock running on a battery for a week or so. It was consistently >>> losing about 1-2 minutes per hour. Tried the adjustment screw but it didn't >>> make much difference. Yesterday the clock completely stopped working. >>> Apparently there's an internal fuse but I had the thought of trying to find >>> a quartz movement to replace the guts of it. Anyone know of a shop that >>> does that sort of "modernization" of vintage car clocks? >>> >>> Other option is to just use that spot on the instrument panel for something >>> else such as a cylinder head temperature gauge if I can find one. Any >>> modern radio I might install is going to give me a clock, I don't really >>> need one on its own. >>> >>> Allan >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I think I found the calibration screw after all, it was under a sticker. Not going to mess with it just yet though. Allan On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I > say that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually > ended up making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going > to come remotely close to meeting accurate time standards. > > -D > >> On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time >> again will keep monitoring it. >> >> I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't >> see one, at least not one that's externally accessible. >> >> Allan >> >> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: >>> Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They >>> are very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if >>> it's keeping time the lubricants are good. >>> >>> It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so >>> low loading. >>> >>> If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean >>> all the pivots and jewels (and I think it's a jeweled movement, at >>> least the fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY >>> small amounts of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler. That >>> is, a small wire with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers >>> the correct amount of oil. You only need enough oil to fill the space >>> between the pivot and the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the >>> pivot (the pin like bit that goes in the hole). >>> >>> Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete >>> cleaning. Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the >>> hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding. New oil usually won't >>> thin out gummy old oil either. >>> >>> I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in >>> the first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s. >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
Nothing coming up on my searches in Atlanta. Found this place... http://dandmrestoration.com/services/clocks/ Sent them an email On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, at 2:34 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > There’s always Jim what's his face in Atlanta. Doesn’t he work on these > clocks? > > -D > > > On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Had the clock running on a battery for a week or so. It was consistently > > losing about 1-2 minutes per hour. Tried the adjustment screw but it didn't > > make much difference. Yesterday the clock completely stopped working. > > Apparently there's an internal fuse but I had the thought of trying to find > > a quartz movement to replace the guts of it. Anyone know of a shop that > > does that sort of "modernization" of vintage car clocks? > > > > Other option is to just use that spot on the instrument panel for something > > else such as a cylinder head temperature gauge if I can find one. Any > > modern radio I might install is going to give me a clock, I don't really > > need one on its own. > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > >> I think I found the calibration screw after all, it was under a sticker. > >> Not going to mess with it just yet though. > >> > >> Allan > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >>> I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I > >>> say that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually > >>> ended up making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going > >>> to come remotely close to meeting accurate time standards. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time > again will keep monitoring it. > > I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't > see one, at least not one that's externally accessible. > > Allan > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: > > Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They > > are very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if > > it's keeping time the lubricants are good. > > > > It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so > > low loading. > > > > If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean > > all the pivots and jewels (and I think it's a jeweled movement, at > > least the fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY > > small amounts of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler. That > > is, a small wire with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers > > the correct amount of oil. You only need enough oil to fill the space > > between the pivot and the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the > > pivot (the pin like bit that goes in the hole). > > > > Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete > > cleaning. Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the > > hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding. New oil usually won't > > thin out gummy old oil either. > > > > I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in > > the first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
There’s always Jim what's his face in Atlanta. Doesn’t he work on these clocks? -D > On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Had the clock running on a battery for a week or so. It was consistently > losing about 1-2 minutes per hour. Tried the adjustment screw but it didn't > make much difference. Yesterday the clock completely stopped working. > Apparently there's an internal fuse but I had the thought of trying to find a > quartz movement to replace the guts of it. Anyone know of a shop that does > that sort of "modernization" of vintage car clocks? > > Other option is to just use that spot on the instrument panel for something > else such as a cylinder head temperature gauge if I can find one. Any modern > radio I might install is going to give me a clock, I don't really need one on > its own. > > Allan > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> I think I found the calibration screw after all, it was under a sticker. Not >> going to mess with it just yet though. >> >> Allan >> >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I say >>> that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually ended >>> up making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going to come >>> remotely close to meeting accurate time standards. >>> >>> -D >>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time again will keep monitoring it. I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't see one, at least not one that's externally accessible. Allan On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: > Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They are > very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if it's > keeping time the lubricants are good. > > It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so low > loading. > > If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean > all the pivots and jewels (and I think it's a jeweled movement, at least > the fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY small > amounts of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler. That is, a > small wire with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers the > correct amount of oil. You only need enough oil to fill the space > between the pivot and the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the > pivot (the pin like bit that goes in the hole). > > Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete > cleaning. Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the > hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding. New oil usually won't > thin out gummy old oil either. > > I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in the > first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
Had the clock running on a battery for a week or so. It was consistently losing about 1-2 minutes per hour. Tried the adjustment screw but it didn't make much difference. Yesterday the clock completely stopped working. Apparently there's an internal fuse but I had the thought of trying to find a quartz movement to replace the guts of it. Anyone know of a shop that does that sort of "modernization" of vintage car clocks? Other option is to just use that spot on the instrument panel for something else such as a cylinder head temperature gauge if I can find one. Any modern radio I might install is going to give me a clock, I don't really need one on its own. Allan On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > I think I found the calibration screw after all, it was under a sticker. Not > going to mess with it just yet though. > > Allan > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I say > > that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually ended > > up making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going to come > > remotely close to meeting accurate time standards. > > > > -D > > > > > On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > > > wrote: > > > > > > Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time > > > again will keep monitoring it. > > > > > > I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't > > > see one, at least not one that's externally accessible. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: > > >> Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They are > > >> very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if it's > > >> keeping time the lubricants are good. > > >> > > >> It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so > > >> low loading. > > >> > > >> If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean > > >> all the pivots and jewels (and I think it's a jeweled movement, at > > >> least the fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY > > >> small amounts of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler. That > > >> is, a small wire with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers > > >> the correct amount of oil. You only need enough oil to fill the space > > >> between the pivot and the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the > > >> pivot (the pin like bit that goes in the hole). > > >> > > >> Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete > > >> cleaning. Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the > > >> hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding. New oil usually won't > > >> thin out gummy old oil either. > > >> > > >> I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in > > >> the first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s. > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
I think I found the calibration screw after all, it was under a sticker. Not going to mess with it just yet though. Allan On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I say > that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually ended up > making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going to come > remotely close to meeting accurate time standards. > > -D > > > On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time > > again will keep monitoring it. > > > > I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't see > > one, at least not one that's externally accessible. > > > > Allan > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: > >> Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They are > >> very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if it's > >> keeping time the lubricants are good. > >> > >> It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so low > >> loading. > >> > >> If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean all > >> the pivots and jewels (and I think it's a jeweled movement, at least the > >> fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY small amounts > >> of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler. That is, a small wire > >> with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers the correct amount > >> of oil. You only need enough oil to fill the space between the pivot and > >> the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the pivot (the pin like bit > >> that goes in the hole). > >> > >> Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete > >> cleaning. Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the > >> hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding. New oil usually won't > >> thin out gummy old oil either. > >> > >> I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in the > >> first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s. > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I say that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually ended up making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going to come remotely close to meeting accurate time standards. -D > On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time again > will keep monitoring it. > > I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't see > one, at least not one that's externally accessible. > > Allan > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: >> Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They are >> very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if it's >> keeping time the lubricants are good. >> >> It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so low >> loading. >> >> If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean all >> the pivots and jewels (and I think it's a jeweled movement, at least the >> fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY small amounts of >> synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler. That is, a small wire with >> the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers the correct amount of oil. >> You only need enough oil to fill the space between the pivot and the hole, >> and just barely the shoulder behind the pivot (the pin like bit that goes in >> the hole). >> >> Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete cleaning. >> Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the hole by the new >> oil, and it will start grinding. New oil usually won't thin out gummy old >> oil either. >> >> I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in the >> first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time again will keep monitoring it. I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't see one, at least not one that's externally accessible. Allan On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: > Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They are very > well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if it's keeping time > the lubricants are good. > > It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so low > loading. > > If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean all > the pivots and jewels (and I think it's a jeweled movement, at least the > fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY small amounts of > synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler. That is, a small wire with > the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers the correct amount of oil. > You only need enough oil to fill the space between the pivot and the hole, > and just barely the shoulder behind the pivot (the pin like bit that goes in > the hole). > > Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete cleaning. > Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the hole by the new > oil, and it will start grinding. New oil usually won't thin out gummy old > oil either. > > I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in the > first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They are very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if it's keeping time the lubricants are good. It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so low loading. If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean all the pivots and jewels (and I think it's a jeweled movement, at least the fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY small amounts of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler. That is, a small wire with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers the correct amount of oil. You only need enough oil to fill the space between the pivot and the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the pivot (the pin like bit that goes in the hole). Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete cleaning. Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding. New oil usually won't thin out gummy old oil either. I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in the first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
I've repaired many, but never had one keep accurate time over any significant period of time. Now I just repair them so they work because I like how they sound. (crunch, tick tick tick tick tick...). I just set the time each time I get into the car. On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:28 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah I set it to the correct time and I'll let it run overnight. If it's > not too far off in the morning I'll probably just leave it alone. I need to > clean the glass and bezel like I did the fuel gauge. > > The ticking seems to be a bit stronger and more evenly now. Maybe it > needed a few cycles to get the spring wound a bit. > > Allan > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > Pretty simple mechanism. Lever tied to the spring mechanism. As the > spring winds down, lever makes contact with a stationary contact, > completing a circuit that energizes a coil. Coil pulls on the lever, > lifting it off the contact and winding the spring. Lather, rinse, repeat. > > > > If you do open it, don’t mess with anything if it’s working sort of > applying a good quality watch oil with a needle applicator. > > > > -D > > > > > On Sep 13, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Looking at the clock in my Ghia. It is a VDO "Kienzle" clock. I > thought it was not working, but problem seemed mainly poor grounding. I > removed it from the car and hooked it up to 12V. It's ticking like an old > style windup clock, and the hands are moving at least somewhat. Not sure > how accurately yet. The ticking seems to slow down and speed up a bit, > cyclically. > > > > > > Every two minutes or so there sort of a clunk which I think is the > spring being wound. > > > > > > I found an article about how to open it up and common problems. It > suggested "spray the entire mechanism with WD-40" which I'm pretty sure is > a bad idea. > > > > > > Probably a case of "leave well enough alone" if it keeps reasonably > accurate time. But wondering what I would use to clean and then lubricate > the mechanism if it came to that. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
Yeah I set it to the correct time and I'll let it run overnight. If it's not too far off in the morning I'll probably just leave it alone. I need to clean the glass and bezel like I did the fuel gauge. The ticking seems to be a bit stronger and more evenly now. Maybe it needed a few cycles to get the spring wound a bit. Allan On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Pretty simple mechanism. Lever tied to the spring mechanism. As the spring > winds down, lever makes contact with a stationary contact, completing a > circuit that energizes a coil. Coil pulls on the lever, lifting it off the > contact and winding the spring. Lather, rinse, repeat. > > If you do open it, don’t mess with anything if it’s working sort of applying > a good quality watch oil with a needle applicator. > > -D > > > On Sep 13, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Looking at the clock in my Ghia. It is a VDO "Kienzle" clock. I thought it > > was not working, but problem seemed mainly poor grounding. I removed it > > from the car and hooked it up to 12V. It's ticking like an old style windup > > clock, and the hands are moving at least somewhat. Not sure how accurately > > yet. The ticking seems to slow down and speed up a bit, cyclically. > > > > Every two minutes or so there sort of a clunk which I think is the spring > > being wound. > > > > I found an article about how to open it up and common problems. It > > suggested "spray the entire mechanism with WD-40" which I'm pretty sure is > > a bad idea. > > > > Probably a case of "leave well enough alone" if it keeps reasonably > > accurate time. But wondering what I would use to clean and then lubricate > > the mechanism if it came to that. > > > > Allan > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
Pretty simple mechanism. Lever tied to the spring mechanism. As the spring winds down, lever makes contact with a stationary contact, completing a circuit that energizes a coil. Coil pulls on the lever, lifting it off the contact and winding the spring. Lather, rinse, repeat. If you do open it, don’t mess with anything if it’s working sort of applying a good quality watch oil with a needle applicator. -D > On Sep 13, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Looking at the clock in my Ghia. It is a VDO "Kienzle" clock. I thought it > was not working, but problem seemed mainly poor grounding. I removed it from > the car and hooked it up to 12V. It's ticking like an old style windup clock, > and the hands are moving at least somewhat. Not sure how accurately yet. The > ticking seems to slow down and speed up a bit, cyclically. > > Every two minutes or so there sort of a clunk which I think is the spring > being wound. > > I found an article about how to open it up and common problems. It suggested > "spray the entire mechanism with WD-40" which I'm pretty sure is a bad idea. > > Probably a case of "leave well enough alone" if it keeps reasonably accurate > time. But wondering what I would use to clean and then lubricate the > mechanism if it came to that. > > Allan > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
> a VDO "Kienzle" clock. Those are trivial to open up, and is worth doing just to see how it works. Lubrication, properly, is the tricky part. Otherwise there's not too much to go wrong. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication
Looking at the clock in my Ghia. It is a VDO "Kienzle" clock. I thought it was not working, but problem seemed mainly poor grounding. I removed it from the car and hooked it up to 12V. It's ticking like an old style windup clock, and the hands are moving at least somewhat. Not sure how accurately yet. The ticking seems to slow down and speed up a bit, cyclically. Every two minutes or so there sort of a clunk which I think is the spring being wound. I found an article about how to open it up and common problems. It suggested "spray the entire mechanism with WD-40" which I'm pretty sure is a bad idea. Probably a case of "leave well enough alone" if it keeps reasonably accurate time. But wondering what I would use to clean and then lubricate the mechanism if it came to that. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
