Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
I don't know that we forget so much as we just do not appreciate what it is like to be older until we get there ourselves. I remember my father kept saying he was getting old and I did not think much of it as he seemed the same to me as he always had. Now, at my age, I understand what he was trying to tell me. He died young and I am now 4 years older than he ever got to be. Randy On 02/05/2019 1:45 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: We do forget. Being a dumb young punk in Europe visiting my parents many decades ago, my father and I spent a day castle touring. We got to Nueschwanstein and I was too impatient to wait for the carriage ride up, so we climbed the mountain. Rough terrain, but I was young and strong. Dad followed along behind. I am an idiot. Dad had just come off extended convalescence from open heart surgery and kidney failure not three months before. Before I had arrived, so I did not experienced his hospital stay and recovery. Out of sight, out of mind. By the time we got up the hill, I was sure I had killed the poor man. He looked to be at death's door. That switch was permanently welded to “Old Man is not to be abused that way”. He survived another 25 years and many more cardiac issues. None my doing. clay On May 2, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: For what it is worth, Wilton, I expect your son does not see you as an old man and thought you might enjoy the acceleration. A few years ago my Dad (now deceased) was visiting me at work, and we walked to lunch 'the back way'. Very quiet, away from the main arterial and thus nice, but there was a low (4') chain link emergency vehicle access fence gate to hop over. Farm kid, I didn't think twice about it and I'd done it a thousand times, but he had real trouble getting over that. It was a real wrench for me to flip the "Don't do that ever again." switch in my brain. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
We do forget. Being a dumb young punk in Europe visiting my parents many decades ago, my father and I spent a day castle touring. We got to Nueschwanstein and I was too impatient to wait for the carriage ride up, so we climbed the mountain. Rough terrain, but I was young and strong. Dad followed along behind. I am an idiot. Dad had just come off extended convalescence from open heart surgery and kidney failure not three months before. Before I had arrived, so I did not experienced his hospital stay and recovery. Out of sight, out of mind. By the time we got up the hill, I was sure I had killed the poor man. He looked to be at death's door. That switch was permanently welded to “Old Man is not to be abused that way”. He survived another 25 years and many more cardiac issues. None my doing. clay > On May 2, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> For what it is worth, Wilton, I expect your son does not see you as an old >> man and thought you might enjoy the acceleration. > > A few years ago my Dad (now deceased) was visiting me at work, and we walked > to lunch 'the back way'. Very quiet, away from the main arterial and thus > nice, but there was a low (4') chain link emergency vehicle access fence gate > to hop over. Farm kid, I didn't think twice about it and I'd done it a > thousand times, but he had real trouble getting over that. It was a real > wrench for me to flip the "Don't do that ever again." switch in my brain. > > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
> For what it is worth, Wilton, I expect your son does not see you as an old > man and thought you might enjoy the acceleration. A few years ago my Dad (now deceased) was visiting me at work, and we walked to lunch 'the back way'. Very quiet, away from the main arterial and thus nice, but there was a low (4') chain link emergency vehicle access fence gate to hop over. Farm kid, I didn't think twice about it and I'd done it a thousand times, but he had real trouble getting over that. It was a real wrench for me to flip the "Don't do that ever again." switch in my brain. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
On 01/05/2019 10:16 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: 'Haven't heard 'bout "free" charging, but haven't seen 'im for 3 or 4 months. BTW, it was annoying when he took me for a ride when he got it several months ago and could not resist demonstrating its acceleration. W For what it is worth, Wilton, I expect your son does not see you as an old man and thought you might enjoy the acceleration. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
OK Don via Mercedes writes: > I read somewhere that a minor accident can cause a 6 month repair - > parts are unobtanium ... There are also no dealers, and few service centers. In Indiana for example, there is one service center in the state. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
'Haven't heard 'bout "free" charging, but haven't seen 'im for 3 or 4 months. BTW, it was annoying when he took me for a ride when he got it several months ago and could not resist demonstrating its acceleration. W - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Mitch Haley" Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla On May 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM WILTON via Mercedes wrote: BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3. Did he get in on the deal where he gets free Supercharging like the Model S and Model X, or does he have to pay for his electricity? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
I read somewhere that a minor accident can cause a 6 month repair - parts are unobtanium ... On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 2:17 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On May 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM WILTON via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3. > > Did he get in on the deal where he gets free Supercharging like the Model > S and Model X, or does he have to pay for his electricity? > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
> On May 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > > > BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3. Did he get in on the deal where he gets free Supercharging like the Model S and Model X, or does he have to pay for his electricity? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Mitch Haley" Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla It seems there are plenty of superchargers available to drive a Model 3 from Florida to Washington State. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Just-drove-a-Tesla-across-coutry-Florida-to-Washington-State-Ask-me-anything-/134-2216621/?r=-1=1=78627740 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
It seems there are plenty of superchargers available to drive a Model 3 from Florida to Washington State. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Just-drove-a-Tesla-across-coutry-Florida-to-Washington-State-Ask-me-anything-/134-2216621/?r=-1=1=78627740 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
That’s channeling Kaleb. -D > On Apr 30, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Me too but sometimes I think their soul is that of a demon from hell > > --FT > >> On 4/30/19 10:24 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >> I like my older cars. They have a soul. >> >> -D > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes writes: > What’s a Tesla‘s towing capacity? Minimal. Towing anything will sap the range due to extra weight and aerodynamic drag. I've never seen one fitted with a towing hitch. > I have lately seen a bunch of these things around here, mostly apparently > associated with the luxury gated lifestyle resort communities down the road. > None of them towing anything though. All black or white, seems like there are > no other colors. I've seen them in red and sort of a silver/gray. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
> On April 30, 2019 at 7:05 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > So has anyone prototyped a trailer with a generator, tow behind your Tesla > and charge as you drive down the highways and byways? I don't think any of these cars will move with something plugged into the charge port. I can imagine tapping straight into the battery with a couple of 3500W generators on a trailer hitch mounted cargo rack, 240v rectified and wired in series to charge the 400v traction battery as I fly down the freeway at 75mph and 12-15kw draw. I can also imagine myself walking away from the car, forgetting about the generators, and setting the battery on fire. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
Me too but sometimes I think their soul is that of a demon from hell --FT On 4/30/19 10:24 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: I like my older cars. They have a soul. -D -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
Electric jellybean. Expensive electric jellybean. I like my older cars. They have a soul. -D > On Apr 30, 2019, at 10:01 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > I see a Tesla, I think oh just another boring modern luxury car, I see a > classic Mercedes, etc I get excited. My w123s get several compliments per > week. How many does a boring Tesla driver get on his boring blah already > dated styling Tesla get? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 30, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> What’s a Tesla‘s towing capacity? >> >> I have lately seen a bunch of these things around here, mostly apparently >> associated with the luxury gated lifestyle resort communities down the road. >> None of them towing anything though. All black or white, seems like there >> are no other colors. >> >> I am awaiting the day I get run over by one while I’m riding my bike, like >> almost happened with a Pious running on battery. Can’t hear the damn things >> coming up behind. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> >>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> It was Rabbit, not Beetle, to match the EV. Front half, and with a Cabrio >>> tailgate grafted >>> on to the pusher/trailer. Looked like a very practical arrangement, a >>> permanent tailwind. >>> >>> I think one of those receiver-hitch luggage carriers with a nice little >>> rope-pull genny in it >>> would make a nice statement on a Tesla. >>> >>> I doubt that any of the new EV's could make use of, or even tolerate, its >>> presence in any >>> kind of functional sense. >>> >>> IMHO the Chevy Volt was the best of the bunch, concept-wise. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
I see a Tesla, I think oh just another boring modern luxury car, I see a classic Mercedes, etc I get excited. My w123s get several compliments per week. How many does a boring Tesla driver get on his boring blah already dated styling Tesla get? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > What’s a Tesla‘s towing capacity? > > I have lately seen a bunch of these things around here, mostly apparently > associated with the luxury gated lifestyle resort communities down the road. > None of them towing anything though. All black or white, seems like there are > no other colors. > > I am awaiting the day I get run over by one while I’m riding my bike, like > almost happened with a Pious running on battery. Can’t hear the damn things > coming up behind. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Apr 30, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It was Rabbit, not Beetle, to match the EV. Front half, and with a Cabrio >> tailgate grafted >> on to the pusher/trailer. Looked like a very practical arrangement, a >> permanent tailwind. >> >> I think one of those receiver-hitch luggage carriers with a nice little >> rope-pull genny in it >> would make a nice statement on a Tesla. >> >> I doubt that any of the new EV's could make use of, or even tolerate, its >> presence in any >> kind of functional sense. >> >> IMHO the Chevy Volt was the best of the bunch, concept-wise. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
What’s a Tesla‘s towing capacity? I have lately seen a bunch of these things around here, mostly apparently associated with the luxury gated lifestyle resort communities down the road. None of them towing anything though. All black or white, seems like there are no other colors. I am awaiting the day I get run over by one while I’m riding my bike, like almost happened with a Pious running on battery. Can’t hear the damn things coming up behind. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Apr 30, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > It was Rabbit, not Beetle, to match the EV. Front half, and with a Cabrio > tailgate grafted > on to the pusher/trailer. Looked like a very practical arrangement, a > permanent tailwind. > > I think one of those receiver-hitch luggage carriers with a nice little > rope-pull genny in it > would make a nice statement on a Tesla. > > I doubt that any of the new EV's could make use of, or even tolerate, its > presence in any > kind of functional sense. > > IMHO the Chevy Volt was the best of the bunch, concept-wise. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
Tesla smesla, a streamlined toaster. I’ll take a four speed 240D over this cheese ball wanna be hollyweird director type car any day. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2019, at 7:05 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > So has anyone prototyped a trailer with a generator, tow behind your Tesla > and charge as you drive down the highways and byways? I remember a guy that > rigged up some kind of pusher for his 'lectric car, used the back half of a > VW beetle and I think it had their autobox in it, so he could easily > manipulate it with cables from the driver's seat of the car being pushed. > Looked like a real death trap. I wonder if you-toob has it online? > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> The whole point of Tesla is it's not supposed to be a local only car, >> although I bet that's how 95% of the miles are driven in them. >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
It was Rabbit, not Beetle, to match the EV. Front half, and with a Cabrio tailgate grafted on to the pusher/trailer. Looked like a very practical arrangement, a permanent tailwind. I think one of those receiver-hitch luggage carriers with a nice little rope-pull genny in it would make a nice statement on a Tesla. I doubt that any of the new EV's could make use of, or even tolerate, its presence in any kind of functional sense. IMHO the Chevy Volt was the best of the bunch, concept-wise. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
So has anyone prototyped a trailer with a generator, tow behind your Tesla and charge as you drive down the highways and byways? I remember a guy that rigged up some kind of pusher for his 'lectric car, used the back half of a VW beetle and I think it had their autobox in it, so he could easily manipulate it with cables from the driver's seat of the car being pushed. Looked like a real death trap. I wonder if you-toob has it online? - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The whole point of Tesla is it's not supposed to be a local only car, > although I bet that's how 95% of the miles are driven in them. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
Pretty much do now AFAIK. The issue is that not all chargers have the same ability to output to the port nor do all batteries have the ability to accept charge. -Curt On Monday, April 29, 2019, 10:56:11 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: At what point will all EVs have universal charging ports? On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 8:14 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On April 29, 2019 at 7:57 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > The autopilot was kind of frightening to have operational. I think I'd > probably never use it, the car is lovely to drive, if I had one I'd want to > drive it myself. > > Did you try Ludicrous Mode? > From what I hear, it removes the soft start function and slams you forward > like you got smacked in the butt with a giant sledgehammer. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
At what point will all EVs have universal charging ports? On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 8:14 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On April 29, 2019 at 7:57 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > The autopilot was kind of frightening to have operational. I think I'd > probably never use it, the car is lovely to drive, if I had one I'd want to > drive it myself. > > Did you try Ludicrous Mode? > From what I hear, it removes the soft start function and slams you forward > like you got smacked in the butt with a giant sledgehammer. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
> On April 29, 2019 at 7:57 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > The autopilot was kind of frightening to have operational. I think I'd > probably never use it, the car is lovely to drive, if I had one I'd want to > drive it myself. Did you try Ludicrous Mode? >From what I hear, it removes the soft start function and slams you forward >like you got smacked in the butt with a giant sledgehammer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
The whole point of Tesla is it's not supposed to be a local only car, although I bet that's how 95% of the miles are driven in them. IIRC, a car with 200 mile range should be able to go all over Michigan's lower peninsula (far from a hotbed of EV activity) stopping at Tesla Superchargers along the way. It's the J1772 plugs that are too hard to find around here. EDIT: I just checked, and Tesla availability is about what I remember from 2 1/2 years ago, but the 240V Level 2 J1772 population is several times bigger than it was in 2016. DC Combo (J1772 based level 3 fast chargers) are still useless once you get north of Grand Rapids however, everything up north that I can find on Chargepoint is Level 1, Level 2, or Tesla. https://na.chargepoint.com/charge_point If I had a Spark EV with its slow speed 3.3kW level 2 charger (Level 2 on a Spark is about 15 miles per hour or 7 hours for a full charge) I could travel all over Michigan now. But I'd be limited to about 100 miles on an overnight charge if I ventured past Grand Rapids or Lansing into the great north. As long as I stay in the highly populated region, I can drive around and grab a 20 minute half charge off a Level 3 station every 40-50 miles. But that still doesn't compare to putting gas in a car every 400-600 miles. It's a huge improvement though, for in 2016 I'd pretty much have to go to Windsor or Chicago to find a Chevy compatible Level 3 station. Mitch. > On April 29, 2019 at 7:28 PM archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > There are a number of Tesla owners on another list. > They spend a lot of time justifying all the hoops they have to jump through > before and during a trip beyond the Teslas range. > Others think Tesla and it's coming clones from MB, BMW, VW, and others will > become "local" cars which seldom make long trips; barring the invention of > much higher capacity batteries or other power storing devices. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
The autopilot was kind of frightening to have operational. I think I'd probably never use it, the car is lovely to drive, if I had one I'd want to drive it myself. -Curt On Monday, April 29, 2019, 2:55:16 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > One wonders at the vehicle maintenance and repair costs In theory, they should be low. Electric drivetrain is relatively simple and robust, software is updated over-the-air. The stuff I've heard of going wrong is mostly nuisance stuff such as door handles, and the Autopilot occasionally driving into a stationary object at 70mph. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:54:29 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > > > One wonders at the vehicle maintenance and repair costs > > In theory, they should be low. > > Electric drivetrain is relatively simple and robust, software is updated > over-the-air. > > The stuff I've heard of going wrong is mostly nuisance stuff such as > door handles, and the Autopilot occasionally driving into a stationary > object at 70mph. > > Allan > ___ There are a number of Tesla owners on another list. They spend a lot of time justifying all the hoops they have to jump through before and during a trip beyond the Teslas range. Others think Tesla and it's coming clones from MB, BMW, VW, and others will become "local" cars which seldom make long trips; barring the invention of much higher capacity batteries or other power storing devices. Gerry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
On 29/04/2019 1:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: One wonders at the vehicle maintenance and repair costs If one can afford a Tesla, one does not worry about maintenance and repair costs . . . . AND one would not be able to find parts or knowledgeable service folks anyway so . . . . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > One wonders at the vehicle maintenance and repair costs In theory, they should be low. Electric drivetrain is relatively simple and robust, software is updated over-the-air. The stuff I've heard of going wrong is mostly nuisance stuff such as door handles, and the Autopilot occasionally driving into a stationary object at 70mph. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
One wonders at the vehicle maintenance and repair costs On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:19 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I asked that and yes, it puts on the brake lights during regen braking. > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:14 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes: > > > The regenative braking is quit aggressive, a bit like riding the brake > as you come off the accelerator which means you rarely need the brakes in > normal driving. I imagine the brakes will last a long time... > > Offset by the number of people who run into you from behind because they > don't see any brake lights and don't realize you're slowing down. > > Or does the Tesla illuminate the brake lights when it's doing regen > braking? > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
I asked that and yes, it puts on the brake lights during regen braking. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:14 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes: > The regenative braking is quit aggressive, a bit like riding the brake as you > come off the accelerator which means you rarely need the brakes in normal > driving. I imagine the brakes will last a long time... Offset by the number of people who run into you from behind because they don't see any brake lights and don't realize you're slowing down. Or does the Tesla illuminate the brake lights when it's doing regen braking? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes: > The regenative braking is quit aggressive, a bit like riding the brake as you > come off the accelerator which means you rarely need the brakes in normal > driving. I imagine the brakes will last a long time... Offset by the number of people who run into you from behind because they don't see any brake lights and don't realize you're slowing down. Or does the Tesla illuminate the brake lights when it's doing regen braking? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
As long as you don't drive it to the Q. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 12:50 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Took an Tesla S for a test drive yesterday. I'd asked about it last year > and out of the blue they gave me a call. It never hurts to try right? > Outside of the politics or environmental considerations it's a very nice > car to drive, wicked fast, 0-60 in like 4 sec. AWD with loads of grip, they > send you out with a co-pilot so you can't really open it up but he did > encourage me to give it some go and it sure did. Ride is not a Mercedes, > more like my Jetta, tight but not harsh. > I dislike that all the environmental controls are onscreen which requires > you to take your eyes off the road but that's compensated by the auto-pilot > which is astonishing. I never took my hands off the wheel but it did a > perfect job in pretty busy traffic. > The regenative braking is quit aggressive, a bit like riding the brake as > you come off the accelerator which means you rarely need the brakes in > normal driving. I imagine the brakes will last a long time... > The battery on the long range unit I tested is supposed to be good for > more than 300 miles, in very cold or hot conditions that would decrease. > While driving the range finder seemed pretty accurate. Normal (220v) > chargers are supposed to add 40-60 miles per hour of charge. > We played with the price calculator and came up with $98,000 after taxes, > etc or roughly 10x the price of my Jetta which admittedly was used. > I'm obviously not buying one but I get what people see in them... > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
> On April 28, 2019 at 12:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Took an Tesla S for a test drive yesterday. I'd asked about it last year and > out of the blue they gave me a call. It never hurts to try right? > Outside of the politics or environmental considerations it's a very nice car > to drive, wicked fast, 0-60 in like 4 sec. AWD with loads of grip, they send > you out with a co-pilot so you can't really open it up but he did encourage > me to give it some go and it sure did. Did you just drive it, or did you go Ludicrous? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0=48s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiqI0Wm1Tjc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla
Took an Tesla S for a test drive yesterday. I'd asked about it last year and out of the blue they gave me a call. It never hurts to try right? Outside of the politics or environmental considerations it's a very nice car to drive, wicked fast, 0-60 in like 4 sec. AWD with loads of grip, they send you out with a co-pilot so you can't really open it up but he did encourage me to give it some go and it sure did. Ride is not a Mercedes, more like my Jetta, tight but not harsh. I dislike that all the environmental controls are onscreen which requires you to take your eyes off the road but that's compensated by the auto-pilot which is astonishing. I never took my hands off the wheel but it did a perfect job in pretty busy traffic. The regenative braking is quit aggressive, a bit like riding the brake as you come off the accelerator which means you rarely need the brakes in normal driving. I imagine the brakes will last a long time... The battery on the long range unit I tested is supposed to be good for more than 300 miles, in very cold or hot conditions that would decrease. While driving the range finder seemed pretty accurate. Normal (220v) chargers are supposed to add 40-60 miles per hour of charge. We played with the price calculator and came up with $98,000 after taxes, etc or roughly 10x the price of my Jetta which admittedly was used. I'm obviously not buying one but I get what people see in them... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
