Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca writes: Was this board more than one layer of circuitry like computer motherboards? If not, it was likely fixable in some manner. With a dime-sized hole burned through it, doubtful. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: With a dime-sized hole burned through it, doubtful. If you knew where the missing traces went (doubtful without a schematic, it may have been possible to jumper them in with wires. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Allan Streib
That Goodman furnace Mitch linked a week or two ago was not much more than what the repair cost on this Bryant. Next time I'm going to have to think about just replacing. It's sad in a way when a major appliance like a furnace is almost a disposable item. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012, at 01:09 AM,

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Rich Thomas
You might want to call around to some other repair people, they often have boards they have pulled from old units that are still functional, as when someone upgrades or whatever. Any foreclosure houses in your neighborhood? --R On 2/17/12 10:27 AM, Allan Streib wrote: That Goodman furnace

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Allan Streib
Sadly this was a rather specialty board, a dual speed, dual output board for the high-end furnace that my parents were talked into buying when they replaced their original, but still working 30 year old furnace back in 2006 or so. My HVAC guy said there are some aftermarket generic controllers

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Scott Ritchey
82 300SD. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 12:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk Sadly this was a rather specialty board

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell
On 17/02/2012 11:18 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Sadly this was a rather specialty board, a dual speed, dual output board for the high-end furnace that my parents were talked into buying when they replaced their original, but still working 30 year old furnace back in 2006 or so. My HVAC guy said

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell
On 17/02/2012 12:43 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Gee! In the old 80% efficiency days you had one overtemp sensor (that turned off the flame) and one hot sensor (that turned on the fan) and a thermostat (that turned on the solenoid for the flame), plus a couple relays and a transformer. My, how far

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: That Goodman furnace Mitch linked a week or two ago was not much more than what the repair cost on this Bryant. Next time I'm going to have to think about just replacing. It's sad in a way when a major appliance like a furnace is almost a disposable item. Speaking of

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Scott Ritchey
] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk On 17/02/2012 12:43 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Gee! In the old 80% efficiency days you had one overtemp sensor (that turned off the flame) and one hot sensor

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell
- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk On 17/02/2012 12:43 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Gee! In the old 80% efficiency days you

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk On 17/02/2012 12:43 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Gee! In the old 80% efficiency days you had one overtemp sensor (that turned off

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-16 Thread Allan Streib
Final verdict... board melted beyond repair. Basically burned through at the relay. Motors are fine, so the relay must have gone south. The damage: new board, $387 + tax, plus diagnostic and installation labor... $600 total. Ouch, who says fancy high-efficiency furnaces save you money???

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff
The relay failure would imply that the induction motor is bad or drawing too much current. They can be prone to locking up or dragging, which would draw an excessive amount of current, as they often use cheap sleeve bearings that dry out. I had one fail in my last house, but it did so slowly.

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-11 Thread Jim Cathey
problem was then visible: a burned-out relay on the board. It had apparently gotten quite hot, as the plastic case of the relay was deformed and the board was black around where it was attached. Sounds pretty bad. So we're going to need a new controller board Not necessarily. Is the board

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Those HVAC control boards are somewhat beyond me, but I can share this -- my heat pump fan burned out, at some point a large start capacitor burned out (a silver can about the size of a small bar of soap, cig pack, deck of cards, etc.) and that caused some other problems. That capacitor

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-11 Thread Allan Streib
I had my regular furnace guy out there today (an indy, works out of his truck, one-man operation). He had a few different carrier/bryant boards in his inventory but not the proper one for that furnace. He checked the motors and they appear to be fine. Hot-wired the inducer motor so that the

[MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-10 Thread Allan Streib
Parent's Bryant (Carrier) gas furnace dead tonight. I took a look at it, and found that the controller was flashing a code 32, which tranlates to low induction pressure. The induction fan was not coming on at all, so the error code made sense from that standpoint. But why is the fan not coming

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-10 Thread Benz Hogs
If you have an ammeter, put power to the blower and see if it's pulling a high amount of current. If the blower is normal, possibly a power surge (or brownout?) took out the controller, or the board just went bad. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (322,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150