[MBZ] OT: suing government
Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ยง1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complaint.pdf Do attorneys always lose their dignity when process is being served? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=105421 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: suing government
Mitch wrote: Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ?1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complaint.pd; Yes. As a matter of fact that would be the type of case we defend - IF by type you mean someone suing an municipality or other governmental entity. This case sounds very strange. I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. But, if I was defending it, I don't get to consider my own values, I represent the client. I am not very impressed with the complaint. Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
My grandmother's doctors in practice together were Drs. Cuthoff and Payne. --R Donald Snook wrote: Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
Or how about the Three Stooges law firm? Dewey, Cheatham and Howe Then there was the actual brokerage firm that had a sense of humour and was allowed to call themselves Amalgamated Urine. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
Rich Thomas wrote: My grandmother's doctors in practice together were Drs. Cuthoff and Payne. There was a Dr Quinn, MD here locally until she got married. Her first name was not Michaela though. I guess she took her husband's name to get away from Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman as portrayed by Jane Seymour. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
You'd be surprised [or maybe not] how many professionals do change their name for just that reason. Last one I ran into was a physician. Coffin became something like James. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:41 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] OT: suing government Mitch wrote: Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ?1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complai nt.pd Yes. As a matter of fact that would be the type of case we defend - IF by type you mean someone suing an municipality or other governmental entity. This case sounds very strange. I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. But, if I was defending it, I don't get to consider my own values, I represent the client. I am not very impressed with the complaint. Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
Donald Snook wrote: I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. A lot of CA police chiefs and sheriffs have a policy of denying all CCW applications, except for friends and contributors. I guess Torrance was just trying to be helpful with that letter: Here's the application you requested, but you may want to save yourself the application fee, because it's our policy to deny all applications. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
my uncle came to america as layos helmeci in the early 60s. he was a doctor working out of mt sinai hospital in nyc. another doctor there advised him that if he didn't change his name to something people could relate to, he would be hindering his career. my uncle, an ambitious man, couldn't stand the idea of having to live on the 22nd floor instead of the penthouse of his building on the east side, asked the more senior physician what name he might suggest. at the time, the other man was reading a book by lillian hellman and thought that was a good name. henceforth my uncle was dr larry hellman, and even though he did move up to the duplex penthouse on the east side, he never got out of the habit of shopping the fur department at alexanders, so i grew up wearing the funkiest ghetto fur coats from the 70s. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd be surprised [or maybe not] how many professionals do change their name for just that reason. Last one I ran into was a physician. Coffin became something like James. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:41 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] OT: suing government Mitch wrote: Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ?1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complai nt.pd Yes. As a matter of fact that would be the type of case we defend - IF by type you mean someone suing an municipality or other governmental entity. This case sounds very strange. I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. But, if I was defending it, I don't get to consider my own values, I represent the client. I am not very impressed with the complaint. Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i never will understand how anyone can support a policy where the elite and the criminals can get arms, but you can't. and yet the population continues to allow such nonsense to go on in much of this country. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. A lot of CA police chiefs and sheriffs have a policy of denying all CCW applications, except for friends and contributors. I guess Torrance was just trying to be helpful with that letter: Here's the application you requested, but you may want to save yourself the application fee, because it's our policy to deny all applications. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is it possible to sue for damages when he has not been actually damaged? Seems like the Heller V Wash DC had more plaintiffs until a judge ruled only one had been damaged by the cities law denying any guns in DC unless disassembled. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government Donald Snook wrote: I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. A lot of CA police chiefs and sheriffs have a policy of denying all CCW applications, except for friends and contributors. I guess Torrance was just trying to be helpful with that letter: Here's the application you requested, but you may want to save yourself the application fee, because it's our policy to deny all applications. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At last count I believe 40 states now have Shall Issue regulations meaning the govt must issue if the applican passes the background test and takes the training course. BTW, the training course is very helpful for someone not very familiar with guns. My wife for one. Although she had fired guns in the past she was surprised to find how difficult it is to hit a target at ~20' with a handgin small enough to be easily concealed. Her past shooting irons had 6 or longer barrels which are much easier to aim. But she passed the test - ;-) The latest numbers are : Thirty-six states have shall issue laws, requiring that carry permits be issued to applicants who meet uniform standards established by the state legislature. Three have fairly-administered discretionary-issue carry permit systems. One, Vermont, respects the right to carry without a permit. Alaska, one of the shall issue states, has its permit system for the purpose of permit-reciprocity with other states, and also adopted a no-permit-required law in 2003. . There are 10 non-RTC states. Eight have restrictively-administered discretionary-issue systems. Only two-Illinois and Wisconsin-have no permit system and prohibit carrying. The above quoted from www.nra-ila-org/issues/factsheets/read.aspx?ID=18 Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government i never will understand how anyone can support a policy where the elite and the criminals can get arms, but you can't. and yet the population continues to allow such nonsense to go on in much of this country. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. A lot of CA police chiefs and sheriffs have a policy of denying all CCW applications, except for friends and contributors. I guess Torrance was just trying to be helpful with that letter: Here's the application you requested, but you may want to save yourself the application fee, because it's our policy to deny all applications. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's actually the law firm in Harvard Square -- there is a window on the 2nd or 3rd floor of the building right in the middle of the Square with that name in gold letters on it. Been there for ages, and when they remodeled the building some years ago they replaced the window. --R Jeff Zedic wrote: Or how about the Three Stooges law firm? Dewey, Cheatham and Howe Then there was the actual brokerage firm that had a sense of humour and was allowed to call themselves Amalgamated Urine. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Professional group names: Payne Fears, LLP.-Attorneys Low, Ball Lynch-Attorneys Recht Greef-Attorneys. The name Recht is pronounced wrecked. Dewey, Cheatham Howe---http://requaweb.home.comcast.net/~requaweb/dewey/index.htm --- - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] My grandmother's doctors in practice together were Drs. Cuthoff and Payne. --R Donald Snook wrote: Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And people who listen to Car Talk thought the boys were making that up. Dan --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's actually the law firm in Harvard Square -- there is a window on the 2nd or 3rd floor of the building right in the middle of the Square with that name in gold letters on it. Been there for ages, and when they remodeled the building some years ago they replaced the window. --R Jeff Zedic wrote: Or how about the Three Stooges law firm? Dewey, Cheatham and Howe Then there was the actual brokerage firm that had a sense of humour and was allowed to call themselves Amalgamated Urine. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I always thought so, especially in light of the rest of their 'staff,' Thanks for the info. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government And people who listen to Car Talk thought the boys were making that up. Dan --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's actually the law firm in Harvard Square -- there is a window on the 2nd or 3rd floor of the building right in the middle of the Square with that name in gold letters on it. Been there for ages, and when they remodeled the building some years ago they replaced the window. --R Jeff Zedic wrote: Or how about the Three Stooges law firm? Dewey, Cheatham and Howe Then there was the actual brokerage firm that had a sense of humour and was allowed to call themselves Amalgamated Urine. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My grandmother's doctors in practice together were Drs. Cuthoff and Payne. We have a Dr. Slaughter in our local hospital ER. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A Dr. Hoare I knew as an intern never changed his name. Fortunately he married a nurse with a great sense of humor. Gerry -- You'd be surprised [or maybe not] how many professionals do change their name for just that reason. Last one I ran into was a physician. Coffin became something like James. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:41 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] OT: suing government Mitch wrote: Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ?1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complai nt.pd Yes. As a matter of fact that would be the type of case we defend - IF by type you mean someone suing an municipality or other governmental entity. This case sounds very strange. I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. But, if I was defending it, I don't get to consider my own values, I represent the client. I am not very impressed with the complaint. Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
