Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a party and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum waterless cookware. Heavy, heavy duty stuff. Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love using it. On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in over 20 years though. i'd be surprised if there was still a lot going on there today On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
this is raw aluminum or anodized? i'm a cast iron guy myself On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a party and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum waterless cookware. Heavy, heavy duty stuff. Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love using it. On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in over 20 years though. i'd be surprised if there was still a lot going on there today On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
I took a trailer load of house building trash to the dump a few weeks back. 2 goobers pull up next to me in a pickup and proceed to start throwing box after box of art books and household goods out. I tell them they should try to sell that stuff on CL, or take it to Goodwill or something, they say some old lady died and the house needed to be cleared out ASAP so that is what they were doing. I grabbed a coupla of large-format art books, very expensive, and was poking in some of the other boxes and pulled out an unused Le Creuset dutch, oops, FRENCH oven minus lid, and a really cool pottery bowl before the bulldozer guy came over and started pushing the stuff over the edge. I looked up the dutch oven on Amazon, vendors want $270 for one. I sent LC an email asking if I could just buy a lid, they respond no, lids come with the pot, but I could trade this one in for a whole new deal for $87.50, which appears to be a good deal. Or I guess I could just use it as is with foil or something. It pains me to see good old stuff go into the landfill. --R On 11/16/13 7:07 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a party and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum waterless cookware. Heavy, heavy duty stuff. Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love using it. On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in over 20 years though. i'd be surprised if there was still a lot going on there today ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:53:36 -0500 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: this is raw aluminum or anodized? i'm a cast iron guy myself With the supposed link between aluminum and Alzheimer's, we have eliminated aluminum cookware from our house. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
Hmm. The alz.org folks don't seem to lend any credence to this. http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_myths_about_alzheimers.asp Dan On Nov 16, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Craig wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:53:36 -0500 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: this is raw aluminum or anodized? i'm a cast iron guy myself With the supposed link between aluminum and Alzheimer's, we have eliminated aluminum cookware from our house. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:43:31 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Hmm. The alz.org folks don't seem to lend any credence to this. http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_myths_about_alzheimers.asp Thank you for the link. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You're welcome. I will say that after I read a couple of papers at the NHC it would appear that there is some risk with ingesting aluminum, but researchers can't seem to agree on the effects and/or if it's a concern. It does sound like any Al ingested from cookware is well below daily limits, but that there is more of a risk from other sources, possibly drinking water. Also, it appears that other chemicals can also negate or reduce the concentration of Al, too. Something for continued monitoring, for sure. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 16, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:43:31 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Hmm. The alz.org folks don't seem to lend any credence to this. http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_myths_about_alzheimers.asp Thank you for the link. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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to ask again as you guys just talk about whatever and don't actually pay attention: is it raw or anodized? in other words, what color is the cooking surface? On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: You're welcome. I will say that after I read a couple of papers at the NHC it would appear that there is some risk with ingesting aluminum, but researchers can't seem to agree on the effects and/or if it's a concern. It does sound like any Al ingested from cookware is well below daily limits, but that there is more of a risk from other sources, possibly drinking water. Also, it appears that other chemicals can also negate or reduce the concentration of Al, too. Something for continued monitoring, for sure. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 16, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:43:31 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Hmm. The alz.org folks don't seem to lend any credence to this. http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_myths_about_alzheimers.asp Thank you for the link. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware. Aluminum certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food. We also use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and really non-stick. I recall that my mom's aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly corrosive effects of the food. Why would you want to cook with that? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a party and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum waterless cookware. Heavy, heavy duty stuff. Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love using it. On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in over 20 years though. i'd be surprised if there was still a lot going on there today On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of aluminum your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non reactive anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking about i can't imagine how ingesting aluminum is a good idea overall myself and have long ago thrown away mom's 50s/60s aluminum. the sick thing is that she abandoned descoware to go for the raw aluminum, but it's unlikely descoware will mean much to you (although it should) On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware. Aluminum certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food. We also use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and really non-stick. I recall that my mom's aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly corrosive effects of the food. Why would you want to cook with that? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a party and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum waterless cookware. Heavy, heavy duty stuff. Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love using it. On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in over 20 years though. i'd be surprised if there was still a lot going on there today On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
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At 6:43 PM -0500 11/15/13, Dan Penoff wrote: Indianapolis. Which line, I don't know. There were several that went from Indy to the then 'burbs. I could ask my Mom. Not sure if she will remember. See if you can find out. I might be interested. :) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm sorry, but I hope I didn't give the impression it was for sale, as it's not. It has far more value as a family heirloom than a watch. I can post some pictures of it this weekend if you want to see it. Not sure when I'll talk to my Mom next, but when I do I'll ask her. And just to clarify, as I originally misstated - it was my maternal great-grandfather. Along those same lines, a great uncle on my Mom's side of the family owned a tavern at the end of the interurban line in Independence, MO. He was a sheriff as well, and an active part of the Pendergast Machine in the Kansas City, MO area. I was told that Truman used to frequent his place, but I don't know how true that was. I do know that he was well placed in the community and was very well off financially, especially for someone who just owned a tavern. On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:29 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: At 6:43 PM -0500 11/15/13, Dan Penoff wrote: Indianapolis. Which line, I don't know. There were several that went from Indy to the then 'burbs. I could ask my Mom. Not sure if she will remember. See if you can find out. I might be interested. :) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
He said it was raw Al. Raw aluminum, although I do have a large number of Magnelite anodized pieces as well. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of aluminum your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non reactive anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking about i can't imagine how ingesting aluminum is a good idea overall myself and have long ago thrown away mom's 50s/60s aluminum. the sick thing is that she abandoned descoware to go for the raw aluminum, but it's unlikely descoware will mean much to you (although it should) On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware. Aluminum certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food. We also use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and really non-stick. I recall that my mom's aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly corrosive effects of the food. Why would you want to cook with that? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a party and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum waterless cookware. Heavy, heavy duty stuff. Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love using it. On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in over 20 years though. i'd be surprised if there was still a lot going on there today On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http
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yes, greg, he did say that after i asked several times and i was able to read the english. is it an altercation that you are looking for greg? On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: He said it was raw Al. Raw aluminum, although I do have a large number of Magnelite anodized pieces as well. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of aluminum your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non reactive anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking about i can't imagine how ingesting aluminum is a good idea overall myself and have long ago thrown away mom's 50s/60s aluminum. the sick thing is that she abandoned descoware to go for the raw aluminum, but it's unlikely descoware will mean much to you (although it should) On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware. Aluminum certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food. We also use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and really non-stick. I recall that my mom's aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly corrosive effects of the food. Why would you want to cook with that? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a party and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum waterless cookware. Heavy, heavy duty stuff. Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love using it. On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in over 20 years though. i'd be surprised if there was still a lot going on there today On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com
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If you don't drink the stuff, owning a tavern can be a very lucrative operation -- lots of customers no matter what the economy is like and very high profit margins. Bad management is about the only way to lose money at one, other than being so weird you drive your customers off. Nose candy has a detrimental effect as well, probably more than heavy drinking. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Certainly not. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine yes, greg, he did say that after i asked several times and i was able to read the english. is it an altercation that you are looking for greg? On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: He said it was raw Al. Raw aluminum, although I do have a large number of Magnelite anodized pieces as well. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of aluminum your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non reactive anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking about i can't imagine how ingesting aluminum is a good idea overall myself and have long ago thrown away mom's 50s/60s aluminum. the sick thing is that she abandoned descoware to go for the raw aluminum, but it's unlikely descoware will mean much to you (although it should) On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware. Aluminum certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food. We also use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and really non-stick. I recall that my mom's aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly corrosive effects of the food. Why would you want to cook with that? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a party and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum waterless cookware. Heavy, heavy duty stuff. Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love using it. On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in over 20 years though. i'd be surprised if there was still a lot going on there today On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At 3:04 PM -0500 11/16/13, Dan Penoff wrote: I'm sorry, but I hope I didn't give the impression it was for sale, as it's not. It has far more value as a family heirloom than a watch. I can post some pictures of it this weekend if you want to see it. Soitenly! I'm always interested in things electric traction related. :) Not sure when I'll talk to my Mom next, but when I do I'll ask her. And just to clarify, as I originally misstated - it was my maternal great-grandfather. Along those same lines, a great uncle on my Mom's side of the family owned a tavern at the end of the interurban line in Independence, MO. He was a sheriff as well, and an active part of the Pendergast Machine in the Kansas City, MO area. I was told that Truman used to frequent his place, but I don't know how true that was. Neat! :) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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After banging around the interwebs for two hours I sort of was able to cobble together some data. Seems to have been a Cleveland area jeweler who had swiss movements that they made watches from in the 1940-1960s. Then they moved into retail and dropped the watches. They still do repair, but make gaudy bling now. This is no way steam punk. Classic executive watch of the Mad Men era. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:58 PM, OK Don wrote: It sounds like a classic steampunk watch to me. :-) (ducking). On Thursday, November 14, 2013, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Subject is a Swiss Litwin 30 jewel Automatic. 14k gold back, maybe case as well. Good crystal. No date function. Second hand sweep, numerals are just hash marks in gold. Band is not original to the wrist watch. Pre-1970. Anybody able to offer opinion or enlightenment? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily my dodging reflexes were quite good back then On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:13 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. Everybody always made a big deal about Grandpa's pocket watch and how valuable it was. Somehow I ended up with it. Did some checking on the net to find it was a very common watch and was worth about $20. On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily my dodging reflexes were quite good back then On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:13 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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that is how it normally turns out, dan. have a similar problem with my mom's silver flatware. just cheap silverplate crap from 1950s macy's. whole set not worth 100 bucks on ebay she has decided to sell it as she no longer entertains . she assures me it is worth several thousand dollars, maybe even 5 figures. i argue that we cannot sell such a pressure heirloom. it will be a sad day for her when reality is revealed On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. Everybody always made a big deal about Grandpa's pocket watch and how valuable it was. Somehow I ended up with it. Did some checking on the net to find it was a very common watch and was worth about $20. On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily my dodging reflexes were quite good back then On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:13 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's like old Kodak cameras. I have a couple of folding bellows roll film cameras from the 1930s, both of which are in working order if you wanted to scrounge the roll film for them. They are beautiful display pieces I have on a shelf, but are so common they probably have values in the sub $20 range, at best. Sent from my iPad On Nov 15, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: that is how it normally turns out, dan. have a similar problem with my mom's silver flatware. just cheap silverplate crap from 1950s macy's. whole set not worth 100 bucks on ebay she has decided to sell it as she no longer entertains . she assures me it is worth several thousand dollars, maybe even 5 figures. i argue that we cannot sell such a pressure heirloom. it will be a sad day for her when reality is revealed On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. Everybody always made a big deal about Grandpa's pocket watch and how valuable it was. Somehow I ended up with it. Did some checking on the net to find it was a very common watch and was worth about $20. On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily my dodging reflexes were quite good back then On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:13 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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(interested look) Which interurban? -MMM- On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. Everybody always made a big deal about Grandpa's pocket watch and how valuable it was. Somehow I ended up with it. Did some checking on the net to find it was a very common watch and was worth about $20. On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily my dodging reflexes were quite good back then On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:13 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Watch values depend very much on someone's willingness to buy it -- Railroad Approved watches are quite popular and carry a fairly high price due to the demand for them, which has nothing at all to do with their timekeeping abilities (although they are generally better at keeping time than less expensive watches). Similar designs in smaller sizes are NOT as desireable, and hence have lower prices, and the name has a great deal to do with the price, again with little attention paid to timekeeping ability. Wrist watches are all over the map -- some are very desirable and can fetch quite a nice price (hundreds of dollars and up), but again this is very highly dependent on condition and make. Not all watches are high dollar, even when they are very nice watched because they don't have the correct name on the dial. Not even when the guts are from a famous maker, or are identical to the famous maker except for the markings since the famous maker bought them semi-finished from the same ebauch series. I would not depend on a jeweler to give you a price, you will have to contact someone who appraises antiques and specializes in watches. It's certainly worth the scrap value of the case (at least a couple hundred dollars), although I hate the idea of scrapping watch cases from working watches. Might be worth more, might not. With a normal service, it should be in good working order, 30 jewel watches have the vast majority of the wear areas jeweled to reduce friction and wear, so unless it was abused, it should run another 40 years in daily service. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Interurban watches were lower grade than the normal Railroad Approved ones, but always decent watches. Sadly the price depends on the demand. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Indianapolis. Which line, I don't know. There were several that went from Indy to the then 'burbs. I could ask my Mom. Not sure if she will remember. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:07 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: (interested look) Which interurban? -MMM- On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. Everybody always made a big deal about Grandpa's pocket watch and how valuable it was. Somehow I ended up with it. Did some checking on the net to find it was a very common watch and was worth about $20. On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily my dodging reflexes were quite good back then On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:13 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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the interurbans were great. harry truman used to work on the farm and then walk down the road to the interurban. in an hour he was in kansas city, which was on the tour for all cultural happenings. it opened the world up to people today you need a car. that willl cost you a couple of hundred a month any way you slice it. you need gas at 3 or 4 dollars a gallon. another thousand a year for car insurance. it's a trap and it makes you a slave i'd likve happily with a bicycle and the interurban. and for hte 4 times a year or so i really needed a private car, enterprise will come pick you up On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Indianapolis. Which line, I don't know. There were several that went from Indy to the then 'burbs. I could ask my Mom. Not sure if she will remember. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:07 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: (interested look) Which interurban? -MMM- On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. Everybody always made a big deal about Grandpa's pocket watch and how valuable it was. Somehow I ended up with it. Did some checking on the net to find it was a very common watch and was worth about $20. On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily my dodging reflexes were quite good back then On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:13 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I totally agree. I was born 20 years too late. Here the milk trains not only picked up milk from farmers but took kids to high school. Sigh. Then I do love my two MB diesels though. On Nov 15, 2013 6:58 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the interurbans were great. harry truman used to work on the farm and then walk down the road to the interurban. in an hour he was in kansas city, which was on the tour for all cultural happenings. it opened the world up to people today you need a car. that willl cost you a couple of hundred a month any way you slice it. you need gas at 3 or 4 dollars a gallon. another thousand a year for car insurance. it's a trap and it makes you a slave i'd likve happily with a bicycle and the interurban. and for hte 4 times a year or so i really needed a private car, enterprise will come pick you up On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Indianapolis. Which line, I don't know. There were several that went from Indy to the then 'burbs. I could ask my Mom. Not sure if she will remember. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:07 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: (interested look) Which interurban? -MMM- On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. Everybody always made a big deal about Grandpa's pocket watch and how valuable it was. Somehow I ended up with it. Did some checking on the net to find it was a very common watch and was worth about $20. On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily my dodging reflexes were quite good back then On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:13 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com*
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So you want all the taxpayers to subsidize your transpo choices. --R (who is becoming a latter-day expert on transpo issues, what with my agitation efforts) On 11/15/13 6:58 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: the interurbans were great. harry truman used to work on the farm and then walk down the road to the interurban. in an hour he was in kansas city, which was on the tour for all cultural happenings. it opened the world up to people today you need a car. that willl cost you a couple of hundred a month any way you slice it. you need gas at 3 or 4 dollars a gallon. another thousand a year for car insurance. it's a trap and it makes you a slave i'd likve happily with a bicycle and the interurban. and for hte 4 times a year or so i really needed a private car, enterprise will come pick you up ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Nov 15, 2013 4:22 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: So you want all the taxpayers to subsidize your transpo choices. Jabba also has no clue what life is like west of the Mississippi. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I generally keep my mouth shut and assist Mom when the bug to sell stuff hits. She has a much less inflated valuation, and tends to toss really good stuff into the trash. I had to salvage a bunch of interesting Viet Nam era items Dad had acquired while in country. When I toss out a price for posting on CL, she seems quite pleased I think somebody would pay that much. Stuff normally flies out the door with my lowball valuations. She gets some cash, stuff leaves the hoard, and none of it is my crap. Until she kicks the bucket. Then I have to deal with it. Better she cull as she can. clay On Nov 15, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: that is how it normally turns out, dan. have a similar problem with my mom's silver flatware. just cheap silverplate crap from 1950s macy's. whole set not worth 100 bucks on ebay she has decided to sell it as she no longer entertains . she assures me it is worth several thousand dollars, maybe even 5 figures. i argue that we cannot sell such a pressure heirloom. it will be a sad day for her when reality is revealed On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. Everybody always made a big deal about Grandpa's pocket watch and how valuable it was. Somehow I ended up with it. Did some checking on the net to find it was a very common watch and was worth about $20. On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily my dodging reflexes were quite good back then On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:13 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i lived in california for 3 years, but i didn't like it but, yeah, i'm really mostly an eastern guy as for taxpayers subsidizing transportation, it seems to make more sense than subsidizing perpetual war on everything, so maybe On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Nov 15, 2013 4:22 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: So you want all the taxpayers to subsidize your transpo choices. Jabba also has no clue what life is like west of the Mississippi. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in over 20 years though. i'd be surprised if there was still a lot going on there today On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no market for it until long after she dies. I can appreciate the items. Nice mid century crystal, china, silver, and plate. Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through the early 1970's. On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Alex wrote: Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! I remember my uncle collected insulators from poles along the railroad tracks in 1970. I made a hanging candle lamp in college using an insulator. Now they have value? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Anything with springs and gears instead of electrons is steam punk -- my Cessna has steam gauges. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:11 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: This is no way steam punk. Classic executive watch of the Mad Men era. clay -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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drfatty wrote: as for taxpayers subsidizing transportation, it seems to make more sense than subsidizing perpetual war on everything, so maybe I think we need a new more comprehensive law like ACA. We need an ALA - Affordable Living Act. Hey - all of you wage earners will pay more taxes, either way. Might as well stop resisting. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don wrote: Anything with springs and gears instead of electrons is steam punk -- my Cessna has steam gauges. My son refers to Lear35 that he flies as being equipped with steam gauges. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Subject is a Swiss Litwin 30 jewel Automatic. 14k gold back, maybe case as well. Good crystal. No date function. Second hand sweep, numerals are just hash marks in gold. Band is not original to the wrist watch. Pre-1970. Anybody able to offer opinion or enlightenment? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It sounds like a classic steampunk watch to me. :-) (ducking). On Thursday, November 14, 2013, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Subject is a Swiss Litwin 30 jewel Automatic. 14k gold back, maybe case as well. Good crystal. No date function. Second hand sweep, numerals are just hash marks in gold. Band is not original to the wrist watch. Pre-1970. Anybody able to offer opinion or enlightenment? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get sliveroid --nickel -- or stainless cases since they won't wear as much). Only way to tell is to have it opened up and checked out. There are a number of very nice 30 jewel automatics from the late 50's through the mid 70's out there, but also lots of 30 jewel watches that are really 17 jewel movements with a bunch of non-functional jewels in the winding mechanism or other places they do nothing to improve timekeeping. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
