Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-25 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-4-7-billion-nuclear-bill-that-no-one-wants-to-pay-1535194801?emailToken=598e4b5b4143150807e018ca9bef8e83sgaMeCO5FNOiu0eMabMWlqua0TyXi/InoYILr1gEb/Vd2HYEgZQtbrS274OqB5xkhew6MGvQ08tEgoQ/vw8yL4WGQac4we8D25DuzxbygVPRzi0ApPYuvz+qsWe6eGlj=article_copyURL_share --R Sent

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-25 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
So who's got the running list, most up to date, of all the politicos guilty of supporting this fraud? - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:08 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This thing is turning out to be the most massive fraud ever

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-10 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Hey have I shared my wind machine story?  So back in the early 80s before the wind tax credits expired some of the big companies were building some large wind machines and testing them out west. Company I worked for was doing some work for Hamilton Standard which was building the rotors for

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-10 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Clay, Maybe these were islands and islands sometimes sink over time, plate shifts, earth quakes, etc. I believe that the Earth is constantly changing and some of those changes result in what is sometimes deemed as climate change. Part of my property used to be under several feet of

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
My understanding is that there are whole First Nations/Native American cities about 150 miles off the coast of SC. This makes one suspect the whole Global Climate change farce is not all it seems cracked up to be. I want to know what those darn redskins were doing that made the ocean yank

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
How much farmland is ruined by a wind turbine? Does corn care about sharing the fields? Is it worse than a cell tower? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: The airspeed at the tip of the blades is what counts.  I suspect

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The airspeed at the tip of the blades is what counts. I suspect you will find that speed to be just subsonic. Your 3 turbines are not planted on the worlds best, most productive farmland, as are all the hundreds the taxpayers have purchased for Mid-American Energy. (and other companies)

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Its the goobers! No logic allowed! only feeley! ROGER HALE via Mercedes wrote: Gee, SC has a coast. Why don't they go out into the water and install the wave boards that generate electricity from the oceans waves. No nukes, coal, petro, ruined rivers, etc. Haven't seen a cost breakdown

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
tin wrote: > Tesla had ideas scuttled to duxt. What? - gmail doing funky stuff. Is duxt a bad word? shadowbanned? ...maybe I meant dust? tin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > In the early days of irrational exuberance, nuclear power was touted > as "too cheap to meter". "Too cheap to meter" is not as nice as the JPMorgan funded Tesla power to NYC a century ago. Tesla had ideas scuttled to duxt. tin ___

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes, the older wind farms that comprise small turbines close to the ground are far more deadly than modern behemoths that are more widely spaced and way taller. On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Apparently there have been some turbines

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Apparently there have been some turbines built in California right in the path of migratory birds that have been just bird slaughtering machines. Not a problem in most cases and I suspect a "migratory bird study" is now required for the building of wind turbines...I'd also guess its a bigger

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
How many MW of turbine capacity would it take for USA turbine bird kill numbers to approach house cat or motor vehicle bird kills? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Entropy always wins... On Thursday, August 9, 2018, 11:49:08 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzgIxMEo8g RB On 09/08/2018 10:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >  They did an artists rendering of the Cape Wind project which was

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Impressive! there are hundreds of wind turbines around here. Haven't seen any crash and burn yet, but will continue to watch. It is still a relatively new technology at this scale . . . On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzgIxMEo8g RB On 09/08/2018 10:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: They did an artists rendering of the Cape Wind project which was basically not visible from the Cape. The windmills would be something like an inch tall on the horizon but the rich

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
They did an artists rendering of the Cape Wind project which was basically not visible from the Cape. The windmills would be something like an inch tall on the horizon but the rich folks had already poisoned the minds of the weak willed and the project was scrapped.We're seeing wind power

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Ocean wave generators make a lot more sense than wind generators, or even solar... Thousands of miles of coast line... the waves never stop, day or night... Wind generators only work if the wind blows which it doesn't for days sometimes... solar works, if it's day and not cloudy... waves just

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Cape Wind are building machines off Cape Cod. Teddy K (D-UI) didn’t want them, he probably would have run into one with his sailboat in a drunken stupor. Mary Jo had no comment. --R Sent from iPhone > On Aug 8, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Speaking of wind

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Speaking of wind machines - They were proposed off Martha's Vineyard, but T Kennedy thought they would spoil the view and he managed to block them.  Don't know if his efforts managed to keep them away after his death. I think we are building them off the coast of Va - but that's thanks to

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
There’s been talk about wind machines offshore but I don’t think we are well suited for that. Solar could be a good option but the utilities and legislature have conspired against residential solar so that’s problematic too. SC legislature is looking to make a Great Leap Forward into the 20th

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Underwater generators have been towed behind sailboats for decades to recharge the batteries when the sun ain't shining or often in place of solar panels completely.  Sounds like a similar kind of thing  but on  a larger scale - is that what you are proposing?   There's also electricity

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Gee, SC has a coast. Why don't they go out into the water and install the wave boards that generate electricity from the oceans waves. No nukes, coal, petro, ruined rivers, etc. Haven't seen a cost breakdown on the wave board system, but it seems good as the waves work whether the Sun is

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Whoops was the acronym for a bunch of nukes that were supposed to use a cookie cutter design.  Course it never turned out that way. The original was Washington Public Power Supply System (WPPSS). Only one of 5 ever came on line.   More Billion$ down the tube. As someone once said "when the

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Then the movie "/China Syndrome/" came out.  Huge piece of pure propaganda.  But it changed a lot of people opinions. Unfortunately too many people get their view of the world through movies/TV. LarryT On 08/08/2018 10:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: In the early days of

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Do you know if Hartsville 1is up & running? I think it was one of the first nukes built and its time for retirement was coming up. At least I think it was called Hartsville 1. I guess they wouldn't call it #1 until the next reactors were approved?  I seem to recall hearing comments about what

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Charleston and Kiawah municipalities needs to secede from the State. On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Oh that’s the existing plant then. This debacle is about a new plant they > started to build and got $2 or $4bil into and

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Oh that’s the existing plant then. This debacle is about a new plant they started to build and got $2 or $4bil into and realized it was never going to work out. They actually realized that early on but kept spending on it. The key was that the legislature voted a deal where the ratepayers

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In the early days of irrational exuberance, nuclear power was touted as "too cheap to meter". On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:50 AM, clay monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Washington had a massive fraud event on a pretty egregious level. > Billions of tax payer dollars to build

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Washington had a massive fraud event on a pretty egregious level. Billions of tax payer dollars to build five power plants. Only one ever came online. The public utilities sold bonds for the build. Rate payers ended up with the bill. This was around 1984. Known as Whoops! We were going

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
When I was there they kept having alarms for "Airborne" which made everything stop until they found the problem.  Usually it was false alarms.  It's been a while since I was there - seems like Duke Power & Light was involved as a partner in the fiasco. I don't think Central SC is on a

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah I think. It was a complete disaster, not sure how far along they got. --R Sent from iPhone > On Aug 7, 2018, at 8:33 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Wow! > > Is this the Nuke near Hartsville? I work there for the contractor doing > Three Mile Island mods to the fire

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Wow! Is this the Nuke near Hartsville?  I work there for the contractor doing Three Mile Island mods to the fire suppression systems.  It was short term while between other projects.  I worked on Constructions Budgets and Schedules but the contractor I worked for was not mentioned below.

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I guess you could legally use it as a cigar cutter. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'm thinking the original design would be best. Let the scalawag in line > crank up the blade for his own party. Makes things a bit more interesting.

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I'm thinking the original design would be best.  Let the scalawag in line crank up the blade for his own party.  Makes things a bit more interesting. --FT On 8/7/18 1:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Truck freight only, due to size. Approx 4 days, unless it's "Expedite". The "Original

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We've got this: https://www.amazon.com/Avalon-Hill-5510919-Guillotine/dp/B000ARTT7S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8=1533664750=8-4=guillotineits a card game, "Fun with the French Revolution" if you will. Its got a little cardboard guillotine and executioner, I've been thinking it needs a miniature

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Truck freight only, due to size. Approx 4 days, unless it's "Expedite". The "Original design" version [taken from French archive records, and existing Guillotines in museums] is only good for one execution per 20 minutes. I have a modern re-design, full automated with hydraulic cutting blade..

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Shipping costs? Delivery time? --FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 7, 2018, at 12:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Some years ago, I designed and built a full size Guillotine, mounted on a > trailer, that was taken to Renaissance Fairs... I feel sure it could be > available for rental use

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Some years ago, I designed and built a full size Guillotine, mounted on a trailer, that was taken to Renaissance Fairs... I feel sure it could be available for rental use at a reasonable rate... Should the need arise. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
This thing is turning out to be the most massive fraud ever perpetrated on the public (SC anyway) and a goodly fraction of our elected “representatives” are totally complicit in it. The utility and its investors need to take the haircut and a whole bunch from top to bottom public and private

Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Imagine that, Greed and Government Program yield Fraud, yet again... How do you build an elephant? Order a mouse built under government contract... "I rest my case, Your Honor." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > UTILITIESScana

[MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

2018-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
UTILITIESScana accountant testifies she was made to lie about reactor costsPublished: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 A former accountant for Scana Corp. has testified that top executives at the utility pressured her to lie to regulators about how much it would cost to complete a S.C. nuclear project