Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-22 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That right there is why we beat the godless commies.  Well, at least the 
rooshan version.  I think Milt should re-enlist as Pootie is starting to 
become an annoyance again.


--R


On 11/21/14 1:11 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

   The usual dining fare at Strategic Air Command (SAC) alert 
facilities was most often very good, possibly too good.  The dining 
room was set up as a small cafeteria, with a short list of choices on 
the serving line: for example, for breakfast; cereal, scrambled eggs, 
grits, sausage, bacon, ham; for lunch and/or dinner, steak, hot dogs, 
hamburgers, cheeseburgers, baked potatoes, French fries, carrots, 
beans, corn, etc.
   One day in 1974 at Kincheloe AFB, MI, because I had not had 
breakfast, I was first in line for lunch.  The airman/cook/server (his 
master sergeant supervisor leaning against the wall behind him 
watching and listening) on the serving line asked me what I would like 
to have.

   “A steak and French fries, please.”
   His reply, “Sir, you can’t have French fries with steak.”
   I asked, “Why not?”
   He replied, “Sir, if you want French fries, you’ll have to get a 
hamburger or a cheeseburger.  If you want potato with steak, you’ll 
have to get a baked potato - French fries go with hamburger or 
cheeseburger; baked potato goes with steak.”

   I told him, “I don’t want a baked potato, I want French fries.”
   He put my steak back and started to put a hamburger on my plate.  I 
reminded him that I had asked for a steak and, “I’m going to get some 
French fries with it.”
   He insisted, “The French fries go with the hamburger/cheeseburger; 
the baked potato goes with the steak.”
   Now, I began to lose my patience, “I’m a highly-trained 
professional whom Congress has entrusted with some of the nation’s 
topmost secrets.  Our commanders have confined me here on alert ready 
to launch at a moment’s notice and strike targets in the Soviet Union 
with nuclear weapons, and you’re telling me I’m forbidden to have 
French fries with my steak?  You put some French fries on that plate 
with a steak right NOW!”  (Never before nor since have I ordered an 
enlistee in such a manner, and am embarrassed to have done so.  I said 
it more so in protest of the dining facility’s policy and for the 
benefit of the master sergeant supervisor rather than so much to the 
young airman, who was merely following the sergeant’s instructions.)
   The server complied immediately, and I went on my way to enjoy the 
lunch of my choice.  Henceforth, all diners at the alert facility had 
their choice of fries or baked potato.
Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The 
Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me). He told me 
that the story of the “highly-trained professional who insisted on 
having French fries with his steak” was well known in the halls of 
that highest of US military headquarters.  He said that he had related 
the story to the SECDEF and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom had a 
good laugh over it.
I would rather have been known there for having been an 
outstanding officer and warrior than to have been notorious for having 
won a silly battle over French fries, but we often have little control 
over what history records.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-22 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
He's far from an annoyance - using 1930's Hitler tactics to expand his 
territory.  He figures, Dolphie got away with it (Munich, etc), why can't 
I?  So far, it's working as long as we merely wring our hands.


Uh-oh!  'Leaning toward political!  In trouble now.

Wilt

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That right there is why we beat the godless commies.  Well, at least the 
rooshan version.  I think Milt should re-enlist as Pootie is starting to 
become an annoyance again.


--R


On 11/21/14 1:11 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

   The usual dining fare at Strategic Air Command (SAC) alert facilities 
was most often very good, possibly too good.  The dining room was set up 
as a small cafeteria, with a short list of choices on the serving line: 
for example, for breakfast; cereal, scrambled eggs, grits, sausage, 
bacon, ham; for lunch and/or dinner, steak, hot dogs, hamburgers, 
cheeseburgers, baked potatoes, French fries, carrots, beans, corn, etc.
   One day in 1974 at Kincheloe AFB, MI, because I had not had breakfast, 
I was first in line for lunch.  The airman/cook/server (his master 
sergeant supervisor leaning against the wall behind him watching and 
listening) on the serving line asked me what I would like to have.

   “A steak and French fries, please.”
   His reply, “Sir, you can’t have French fries with steak.”
   I asked, “Why not?”
   He replied, “Sir, if you want French fries, you’ll have to get a 
hamburger or a cheeseburger.  If you want potato with steak, you’ll have 
to get a baked potato - French fries go with hamburger or cheeseburger; 
baked potato goes with steak.”

   I told him, “I don’t want a baked potato, I want French fries.”
   He put my steak back and started to put a hamburger on my plate.  I 
reminded him that I had asked for a steak and, “I’m going to get some 
French fries with it.”
   He insisted, “The French fries go with the hamburger/cheeseburger; the 
baked potato goes with the steak.”
   Now, I began to lose my patience, “I’m a highly-trained professional 
whom Congress has entrusted with some of the nation’s topmost secrets. 
Our commanders have confined me here on alert ready to launch at a moment’s 
notice and strike targets in the Soviet Union with nuclear weapons, and 
you’re telling me I’m forbidden to have French fries with my steak?  You 
put some French fries on that plate with a steak right NOW!”  (Never 
before nor since have I ordered an enlistee in such a manner, and am 
embarrassed to have done so.  I said it more so in protest of the dining 
facility’s policy and for the benefit of the master sergeant supervisor 
rather than so much to the young airman, who was merely following the 
sergeant’s instructions.)
   The server complied immediately, and I went on my way to enjoy the 
lunch of my choice.  Henceforth, all diners at the alert facility had 
their choice of fries or baked potato.
Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The 
Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me). He told me 
that the story of the “highly-trained professional who insisted on having 
French fries with his steak” was well known in the halls of that highest 
of US military headquarters.  He said that he had related the story to 
the SECDEF and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom had a good laugh over it.
I would rather have been known there for having been an outstanding 
officer and warrior than to have been notorious for having won a silly 
battle over French fries, but we often have little control over what 
history records.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-22 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I suspect the response is much more what do I do to stop someone who  
is obviously a lunatic and has a large stockpile of nuclear weapons he  
might well use.


No easy answers, like usual.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I can think of one easy answer: resume installing the defensive
anti-ballistic missile system that Bush started.  Putin hates that...

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Nov 22, 2014 10:18 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I suspect the response is much more what do I do to stop someone who is
obviously a lunatic and has a large stockpile of nuclear weapons he might
well use.

 No easy answers, like usual.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
R. Reagan figured out how to cage the bear.  It can be done again. 
It just takes someone with a spine.  Someone more spineless than 
jimmy Cahtah will be chased and/or eaten by the bear.





I can think of one easy answer: resume installing the defensive
anti-ballistic missile system that Bush started.  Putin hates that...

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Nov 22, 2014 10:18 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 I suspect the response is much more what do I do to stop someone who is

obviously a lunatic and has a large stockpile of nuclear weapons he might
well use.



  No easy answers, like usual.


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[MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

   The usual dining fare at Strategic Air Command (SAC) alert facilities 
was most often very good, possibly too good.  The dining room was set up as 
a small cafeteria, with a short list of choices on the serving line: for 
example, for breakfast; cereal, scrambled eggs, grits, sausage, bacon, ham; 
for lunch and/or dinner, steak, hot dogs, hamburgers, cheeseburgers, baked 
potatoes, French fries, carrots, beans, corn, etc.
   One day in 1974 at Kincheloe AFB, MI, because I had not had breakfast, I 
was first in line for lunch.  The airman/cook/server (his master sergeant 
supervisor leaning against the wall behind him watching and listening) on 
the serving line asked me what I would like to have.

   “A steak and French fries, please.”
   His reply, “Sir, you can’t have French fries with steak.”
   I asked, “Why not?”
   He replied, “Sir, if you want French fries, you’ll have to get a 
hamburger or a cheeseburger.  If you want potato with steak, you’ll have to 
get a baked potato - French fries go with hamburger or cheeseburger; baked 
potato goes with steak.”

   I told him, “I don’t want a baked potato, I want French fries.”
   He put my steak back and started to put a hamburger on my plate.  I 
reminded him that I had asked for a steak and, “I’m going to get some French 
fries with it.”
   He insisted, “The French fries go with the hamburger/cheeseburger; the 
baked potato goes with the steak.”
   Now, I began to lose my patience, “I’m a highly-trained professional 
whom Congress has entrusted with some of the nation’s topmost secrets.  Our 
commanders have confined me here on alert ready to launch at a moment’s 
notice and strike targets in the Soviet Union with nuclear weapons, and you’re 
telling me I’m forbidden to have French fries with my steak?  You put some 
French fries on that plate with a steak right NOW!”  (Never before nor since 
have I ordered an enlistee in such a manner, and am embarrassed to have done 
so.  I said it more so in protest of the dining facility’s policy and for 
the benefit of the master sergeant supervisor rather than so much to the 
young airman, who was merely following the sergeant’s instructions.)
   The server complied immediately, and I went on my way to enjoy the lunch 
of my choice.  Henceforth, all diners at the alert facility had their choice 
of fries or baked potato.
Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The 
Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me).  He told me that 
the story of the “highly-trained professional who insisted on having French 
fries with his steak” was well known in the halls of that highest of US 
military headquarters.  He said that he had related the story to the SECDEF 
and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom had a good laugh over it.
I would rather have been known there for having been an outstanding 
officer and warrior than to have been notorious for having won a silly 
battle over French fries, but we often have little control over what history 
records. 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked potato 
with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 30# back from camp 
with me.
and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to make french 
fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to french fries. Its also 
very very easy to make fries in lard, easier than vegetable oil actually 
although I'm not sure I understand why...
-Curt
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wilt...@nc.rr.com 
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:11 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
   
SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

   
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a 
baked potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought 
around 30# back from camp with me.

and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to 
make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to 
french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier 
than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why...

-Curt

#2:  Yes sir!  Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use 
lard?   I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made 
without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff.   It 
makes an amazing difference.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Vivan was going on about lard a coupla shows ago.  My grandmother used 
lard in everything, biscuits, cornbread, frying, pie dough, cooking, 
burns, and just about everything else.  Nothing is better.


--R


On 11/21/14 1:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked 
potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 
30# back from camp with me.

and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to 
make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to 
french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier 
than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why...

-Curt

#2:  Yes sir!  Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use 
lard?   I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made 
without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff.   It 
makes an amazing difference.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 21/11/2014 12:11 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The 
Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me). He told me 
that the story of the “highly-trained professional who insisted on 
having French fries with his steak” was well known in the halls of 
that highest of US military headquarters.  He said that he had related 
the story to the SECDEF and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom had a 
good laugh over it.
I would rather have been known there for having been an 
outstanding officer and warrior than to have been notorious for having 
won a silly battle over French fries, but we often have little control 
over what history records.


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I should think, that the folks high up at the Pentagon were in total 
agreement with you and enjoyed hearing the tale of how you stood up for 
your yourself and essentially defeated a petty rule.

Obviously evidence of your training and fitness to command.

Good Job!

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
   Which reminds me:  Mama always made some mighty fine buttermilk 
biscuits.  One afternoon a few months before she died at 99 years and 3 
months in April of '96, I visited her for a couple of hours.  During that 
time, I asked her to tell me the details, step-by-step, how she made 
biscuits.
   She replied, Well, you get your breadboard (a scooped-out, elongated, 
wooden bowl that Daddy made for her soon after they married in 1915), and 
you put some flour in it and push the flour out from the center to make a 
low place where you start pouring the buttermilk and start mixing.  You pour 
some buttermilk (use water if you don't have buttermilk,  but it's a lot 
better with buttermilk) in the low place in the middle of the flour.  Then 
start mixing the buttermilk and the flour with your fingers.  As you get a 
little bit mixed, swirl it around a little bit and pull in a little more 
flour.  Soon after you get the mixing going, reach into the lard pail and 
get a pinch of lard and add it to the mixture.
   This was the point I was waiting for and interjected, with laughter, A 
pinch, Hell, Mama, it was a hand full!
   Then she jumped me, Where did you learn to cuss like that?  You didn't 
learn to talk like that around here!
   I retorted, again, with laughter, Well, I'll be damned, Mama, all I 
said was 'Hell.'

   She continued, Well, there's no need to cuss like that.
   I continued, Yes, I know, Mama, I was just testing you - wondering if 
you were still as feisty about that as always.  I was just kidding.  But I 
think you'll have to agree that the lard in the biscuits was a little more 
than a pinch.

   She agreed, Yes, that and the buttermilk are what made 'em so good.
   We had a good laugh and hugged enthusiastically.


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Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked 
potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 30# 
back from camp with me.

and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to make 
french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to french 
fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier than 
vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why...

-Curt

#2:  Yes sir!  Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use lard? 
I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made without home 
rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff.   It makes an amazing 
difference.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
ATTABOY  +1 for Randy's comment.  Obviously evidence of your 
training and fitness to command.



SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

   The usual dining fare at Strategic Air Command (SAC) alert 
facilities was most often very good, possibly too good.  The dining 
room was set up as a small cafeteria, with a short list of choices 
on the serving line: for example, for breakfast; cereal, scrambled 
eggs, grits, sausage, bacon, ham; for lunch and/or dinner, steak, 
hot dogs, hamburgers, cheeseburgers, baked potatoes, French fries, 
carrots, beans, corn, etc.
   One day in 1974 at Kincheloe AFB, MI, because I had not had 
breakfast, I was first in line for lunch.  The airman/cook/server 
(his master sergeant supervisor leaning against the wall behind him 
watching and listening) on the serving line asked me what I would 
like to have.

   A steak and French fries, please.
   His reply, Sir, you can't have French fries with steak.
   I asked, Why not?
   He replied, Sir, if you want French fries, you'll have to get a 
hamburger or a cheeseburger.  If you want potato with steak, you'll 
have to get a baked potato - French fries go with hamburger or 
cheeseburger; baked potato goes with steak.

   I told him, I don't want a baked potato, I want French fries.
   He put my steak back and started to put a hamburger on my plate. 
I reminded him that I had asked for a steak and, I'm going to get 
some French fries with it.
   He insisted, The French fries go with the 
hamburger/cheeseburger; the baked potato goes with the steak.
   Now, I began to lose my patience, I'm a highly-trained 
professional whom Congress has entrusted with some of the nation's 
topmost secrets.  Our commanders have confined me here on alert 
ready to launch at a moment's notice and strike targets in the 
Soviet Union with nuclear weapons, and you're telling me I'm 
forbidden to have French fries with my steak?  You put some French 
fries on that plate with a steak right NOW!  (Never before nor 
since have I ordered an enlistee in such a manner, and am 
embarrassed to have done so.  I said it more so in protest of the 
dining facility's policy and for the benefit of the master sergeant 
supervisor rather than so much to the young airman, who was merely 
following the sergeant's instructions.)
   The server complied immediately, and I went on my way to enjoy 
the lunch of my choice.  Henceforth, all diners at the alert 
facility had their choice of fries or baked potato.
Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The 
Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me).  He told 
me that the story of the highly-trained professional who insisted 
on having French fries with his steak was well known in the halls 
of that highest of US military headquarters.  He said that he had 
related the story to the SECDEF and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom 
had a good laugh over it.
I would rather have been known there for having been an 
outstanding officer and warrior than to have been notorious for 
having won a silly battle over French fries, but we often have 
little control over what history records.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Oh!  I forgot about pie dough.  We actually tried to make a better 
dough with lard, and ended up using butter flavor crisco.  BUT (a big 
one)  the lard we used was store plasticized lard.  It is not much 
different than the vein pluggin crisco.  I suspect if I were to 
repeat the trials with real home rendered lard (that will spoil) the 
results would be different.


The store lard is hydrogenated  the same as crisco so it won't spoil. 
Anything that does not spoil is not really food, and is not good for 
you.  Margarine, shortening, store lard, McD hamburger etc.



Vivan was going on about lard a coupla shows ago.  My grandmother 
used lard in everything, biscuits, cornbread, frying, pie dough, 
cooking, burns, and just about everything else.  Nothing is better.


--R


On 11/21/14 1:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a 
baked potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought 
around 30# back from camp with me.

and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to 
make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to 
french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, 
easier than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I 
understand why...

-Curt

#2:  Yes sir!  Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use 
lard?   I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made 
without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff.   It 
makes an amazing difference.


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