Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-20 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Attaboy!! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 2019 Sprinter 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, no news yet Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 20, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Success! At least partially. > > I ran the offending

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 01:08:20 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Craig wrote: > > Hah! backhoe.65.jpg sure looks like a green tree growing from > that root wad! You are right! I never noticed that before. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Success! At least partially. I ran the offending zone this morning for a minute or two and the repair is not leaking. However, I’ve got another (known) leak in the same circuit at a line out by the street where it got nicked when some plants were being dug. Easy access to that one and a fairly

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Good point. However, if it leaks I’ll just shut that circuit off. I haven’t been using it up to now anyway. -D > On Apr 19, 2020, at 6:05 PM, fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Dan wrote: > >> Worst case, it continues to leak. Best case, it doesn’t. If I >> end up with just a few small leaks

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Dan wrote: > Worst case, it continues to leak. Best case, it doesn’t. If I > end up with just a few small leaks around the patch I’ll get > more epoxy and slather it around wherever there are leaks. Don't wait too long if it leaks. The tree will send a lot of roots to the source of a leak.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
PVC is more rigid than polyethylene, it may make it easier to install before you start pushing dirt over it. I know that ours, black poly, needed a lot of hand manipulation to get the heads properly aligned in the ground as you buried it. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Beats me. Here you’re typically putting the sprinklers in before the sod, and it doesn’t have to be more than a few inches deep since we don’t have to worry about freezing. Not sure if that’s why they use PVC or not. Never seen the black poly used here, although I am familiar with it. -D > On

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
On Sun, April 19, 2020 2:45 pm, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > Get some of that black plastic landscaping pipe, that stuff is really > flexible, and patch in a new section Good point. The Saab indy I worked for in the 1980s was also an irrigation installer. Everything was black poly. And if

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Went out and did some work on this today. Was able to clean some more of the growth away from the pipes so I could get all the way around the pipe and tee. The tee and pipe are clearly separated, and quite cleanly. It was easy to tell once I got the dirt away from both and hosed them down with

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Get some of that black plastic landscaping pipe, that stuff is really flexible, and patch in a new section --FT On 4/19/20 2:03 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Dan wrote: Both lines are surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’ from an oak tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Oak tress tend to die around here when the roots are disturbed, so keep this in mind. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 2:24 AM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > As you say, at this point, you have nothing to lose, so try this. > Search Craigs List local to you for an electric chain saw, used and cheap. > Or,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
As you say, at this point, you have nothing to lose, so try this. Search Craigs List local to you for an electric chain saw, used and cheap. Or, buy a new one at Harbor Freight, new but cheap. You are going to sacrifice the blade and chain, in the next step. Spray paint a rectangle box on the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Craig wrote: Hah! backhoe.65.jpg sure looks like a green tree growing from that root wad! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-19 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Dan wrote: > Both lines are surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’ > from an oak tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of > the tree have distorted and stressed the lines, > I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4” > surrounding these lines. To do so

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What Michael said - I vote for the sawsall, followed by wrapping the break with heavy cloth saturated with the plastic epoxy, like jeans? On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:55 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Use and old chain/chain saw or a cheap sawsall all and cut the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-18 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
Use and old chain/chain saw or a cheap sawsall all and cut the roots. It’s a bit of work but then it’s done. > On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point… > > I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:53:00 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point… > See it here just after we had a good hard rain: > http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 > >

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Don, My local FLAPS has the stuff on the shelf, so I ordered some for pickup tomorrow morning. I’m thinking I can cut some small scraps of 1” tubing to place over the crack to close the hole up a bit before I apply the stuff. This is far simpler than trying to wrap something around it. And if

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Thanks, Don, I may check that out. What makes this repair especially challenging, other than the roots and such, is that the pipe has either cracked or pulled out of the tee, so the crack or opening is right at where the transition from the pipe goes into the fitting - so I’ve got different

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'm really impressed with this stuff. Permatex 84115 5-minute Plastic Weld Adhesive, 0.84 oz. They say it doesn't work with polyethylene, but it did great for me. It's not so runny that it will drip away from where you are trying to join pipes, unlike JB Weld Plastic Weld, which it runny. Great

Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Can you cut a tee in half and epoxy or solvent weld the pieces to the broken piece? --FT Sent from iPhone > On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point… > > I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler line

[MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

2020-04-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point… I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler line that is broken open at a joint at a “T” fitting. Normally I would dig up a portion of the line, cut the offending portion out and replace it with new pieces. But… There are two 1”