Re: [MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-12-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No explosion - since they were out of fuel. This allowed for some lives to be spared. On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:26 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > Medellin is 4900’ above MSL, plane had 4k to hit the ground. City is in a > valley surrounded by mountains. > > > clay > > >

Re: [MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-11-30 Thread clay via Mercedes
Medellin is 4900’ above MSL, plane had 4k to hit the ground. City is in a valley surrounded by mountains. clay > On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On November 30, 2016 at 8:03 PM OK Don via Mercedes >>

Re: [MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-11-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
An early report said the plane made several circles and then crashed. If they were in a holding pattern while low on fuel, that explains a lot. > On November 30, 2016 at 8:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > They had circled the airport several times, as the

Re: [MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-11-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
They would have been descending from 30,000-35,000 feet typically for awhile. They wouldn't want to be too high that close to the airport. Some jets have APUs (auxiliary power unit) that might or might not have it's own fuel supply, but I don't know what the operating procedures are for them. On

Re: [MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-11-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
They had circled the airport several times, as the weather was crappy and Medellin is a real nightmare of an airport to fly in and out of due to elevation and the presence of mountains, I believe. It’s 7,027 feet AMSL. Dan On Nov 30, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-11-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On November 30, 2016 at 8:03 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > That would be 9000' MSL - mean sea level. I don't have a clue what the > ground level altitude is there, nor what was between them and the airport. Maybe they'd been gliding quite some time to have

Re: [MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-11-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That would be 9000' MSL - mean sea level. I don't have a clue what the ground level altitude is there, nor what was between them and the airport. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > "A female controller could be heard giving instructions as

Re: [MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-11-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Uh, yeah, the Andes are over 9k ft in many places, some up to 20kft or more. I don't know about that area but 9000ft doesn't get you much as they found out. --FT On 11/30/16 6:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: "A female controller could be heard giving instructions as the aircraft lost

Re: [MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-11-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
"A female controller could be heard giving instructions as the aircraft lost speed and altitude about eight miles from the Medellin airport. Just before going silent the pilot said he was flying at an altitude at 9,000 feet." 9000' AGL should be an easy enough glide for only 8 miles, assuming you

[MBZ] OT Plane crash

2016-11-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pilot-told-colombia-controllers-no-fuel-before-crash/ar-AAkW1Pr?li=BBmkt5R=spartanntp "Before being taken offline, the website of LaMia, the Bolivian-based charter company, said the Avro RJ85 jetliner's maximum range was 2,965 kilometers (1,600 nautical

[MBZ] OT: Plane crash

2013-11-12 Thread Gerry Archer
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net A Mu2 crashed the other day in the woods near the airport here killing one our senators son. Have not heard about one crashing in a while. I have flown a lot on one of them back in the early 90s. ___ Concerns have