Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-07 Thread Max Dillon
From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 12:39:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing...NOW training/education) On Feb 4, 2011, at 23:11, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-06 Thread Craig
On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 00:39:36 -0500 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: (I've also been slipping in some things like Isn't 13+14 the same as 13 +4+10?... mainly as a way of speeding up mental arithmetic) Good idea. go across the lake pontchartrain causeway, abusing a gps for

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-06 Thread John Reames
I'll look into that! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:31, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 00:39:36 -0500 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: (I've also been slipping in some things like Isn't

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-05 Thread John Reames
On Feb 4, 2011, at 23:11, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:27:02 -0500 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: It isn't like the workbooks don't come close to it ( __ + 3 = 5 is identical to x+3=5; solve for x, except people make a bigger fuss about the latter

[MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread John Reames
That is one bone I have to pick with our schools system(s); they do not promote, foster, or encourage those that attend to acquire the skill of teaching themselves; it almost seems like it is viewed as undesirable and therefor quashed at a very early stage. But then the true understanding

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Mitch Haley
John Reames wrote: That is one bone I have to pick with our schools system(s); they do not promote, foster, or encourage those that attend to acquire the skill of teaching themselves; it almost seems like it is viewed as undesirable and therefor quashed at a very early stage. We're off the

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:17 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: That is one bone I have to pick with our schools system(s); they do not promote, foster, or encourage those that attend to acquire the skill of teaching themselves; it almost seems like it is viewed as undesirable and

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread John Reames
Instead of disagreeing with you, I will instead wonder what McCarthy would think of the idea of everyone being treated as if they were an interchangeable little cog in a big machine. If you look far enough down that road, you can probably see that sanitation engineers would had salaries that

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread John Reames
Yeah, I read about that; isn't one fundamental flaw in the argument that the guy not only did not claim to be an engineer, but that the report itself stated that it was prepared by the citizens? If that prosecution holds any water, then using your own judgment on how to deal with a cut,

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread WILTON
, February 04, 2011 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing...NOW training/education) On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:17 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: That is one bone I have to pick with our schools system(s); they do not promote, foster, or encourage

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Rich Thomas
Dead-Stick Landing...NOW training/education) On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:17 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: That is one bone I have to pick with our schools system(s); they do not promote, foster, or encourage those that attend to acquire the skill of teaching themselves

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Craig
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:51:43 -0500 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What is the area under a singular point under a curve? (Isn't the area under a point effectively zero?) No, it's identically zero. If no one can be disadvantaged relative to others, can you even have a concept such

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Craig
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:43:07 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Lacy needs to find something productive to do for the nice salary we're paying him. Sounds like your next project, Wilton, is to make sure that happens. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread John Reames
Ding ding ding! (we have a winner!) I'm glad to be corrected there... I haven't integrated in... Well I wont go there ... So, once a kid has the specifics of arithmetic evaluations done, would it be wrong to start introducing more general forms of expressions (aka algebra...)?? It isn't like

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Walt Zarnoch
In my psych class a year back, I learned something. Strictly speaking, a well-employed person with a degree, is abnormal. The definition of normal slides depending on the geographic location as well, so normal is different all the time. If we keep everyone normal, then we're on the fast track to

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread WILTON
I'd love to. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing...NOW training/education) On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:43:07 -0500 WILTON wilt

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Craig
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:27:02 -0500 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: So, once a kid has the specifics of arithmetic evaluations done, would it be wrong to start introducing more general forms of expressions (aka algebra...)?? Wrong? Why would it be wrong if you just pointed out

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Craig
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:55:12 -0500 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: In my psych class a year back, I learned something. Strictly speaking, a well-employed person with a degree, is abnormal. Abnormal, or not average? Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Craig
] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing...NOW training/education) On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:43:07 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Lacy needs to find something productive to do for the nice salary we're paying him. Sounds like your next project, Wilton, is to make sure

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Abnormal, I remember it well. Walt On Feb 4, 2011 11:13 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:55:12 -0500 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: In my psych class a year back, I learned something. Strictly speaking, a well-employed person with a degree, is abnormal.

Re: [MBZ] OT Rant (was F-16 Dead-Stick Landing.......NOW training/education)

2011-02-04 Thread Mountain Man
John wrote: The schools system(s) don't seem to know... Systems are good for some things, but education does not seem to lend itself to systems approaches. If you want that kid to learn, best get him out of the systems approach as you have already identified too many problems in their