Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes! I thought AZ did NOT recognize DST. On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:03 AM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: it's even more fun as you drive through the reservations,... driving into the Navajo nation from Arizona, you have to adjust to Navajo Time, since the

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
The State of Arizona does not participate in Daylight savings fraud ... The Indian Nations located within the borders of Arizona are not under the jurisdiction of the state and have their own laws, police, and governments. Each Native American Nation sets it's own rules as it sees fit [pretty

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-15 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
it's even more fun as you drive through the reservations,... driving into the Navajo nation from Arizona, you have to adjust to Navajo Time, since the Navajo nation straddles several states and they observe DST. drive into the Hopi nation (which is completely surrounded by the Navajo

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:02:39 -0700 ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: correct. AZ doesn't observe DST, and neither do the Hopi, while the Navajo nation (part of which overlaps AZ and surrounds the Hopi Rez) does. A fellow pointed out at church today that if

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-15 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
correct. AZ doesn't observe DST, and neither do the Hopi, while the Navajo nation (part of which overlaps AZ and surrounds the Hopi Rez) does. cheers! e On 15/Mar/15 09:30, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Yes! I thought AZ did NOT recognize DST. On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:03 AM, ernest

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 00:57:33 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: fmiser wrote: I think HI and AZ are the only states that still don't. NM is seriously considering no DST - just to be like their neighbor, perhaps. Correct? Craig? I have heard nothing about it.

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's always great sport trying to figure out local Arizona time. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: fmiser wrote: I think HI and AZ are the only states that still don't. NM is seriously considering no DST - just to be like their

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-09 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Rich wrote: Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome? It bugs me so much all my friends have learned to not mention it out of fear for the earful they will get from me on the topic. Remember,

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
filip sez: Yeah - but even Indiana has succumbed to the pressure and now follows the rest of Central time zone. I think HI and AZ are the only states that still don't. ___ Yes, the last I knew, HI had opted out of golf time. The Hawaiian kulture is a bit different anyhow. If the

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-09 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 09/03/2015 4:33 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Rich wrote: Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome? It bugs me so much all my friends have learned to not mention it out of fear for the earful

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-09 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
fmiser wrote: I think HI and AZ are the only states that still don't. NM is seriously considering no DST - just to be like their neighbor, perhaps. Correct? Craig? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Craig wrote: Our recent experience was on Friday, before the change. Yabbbuttt... That is too close. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 18:40:39 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig wrote: There have been studies done which show that Daylight Time: - Causes automobile accidents, DO NOT SAY that again, given your recent experience, please. mao Our recent experience was

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:51:45 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome? YES!!! Muey stupido It was done so the bankers can play

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--R wrote: Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Yes. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:51:45 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome? YES!!! I grew up in Indiana, the time never changed so in

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I live in Arizona, where the sun shines on average 360 days out of the year. Arizona does not have daylight savings. Our Legislature was wise enough to understand that we have enough sunshine and we have no need to save it.. I personally note that Daylight Savings is a government program, which

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Craig wrote: There have been studies done which show that Daylight Time: - Causes automobile accidents, DO NOT SAY that again, given your recent experience, please. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Indiana changes now, and it's stupid. I've heard every excuse in the book for why we do it, but none of them are factual. Another better idea that wasn't, but got stuck in the works so we have to deal with it. Same as summers off in college so the kids can go work on the farm, which

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
While I really don't like bankers, I do like more light in the evening. I also hate changing the clocks and having to adjust my schedule twice a year. I vote to permanently implement the one hour ahead - make high noon sun time happen at 1PM clock time. Of course, now that I'm retired and don't

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I was totally BLINDSIDED this morning - the clock on my cell phone leapt ahead without warning!! I lost an hour but it sure was nice to enjoy sunshine at 6:30 PM. On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: While I really don't like bankers, I do like more

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
No, actually the modern version came about during WWI when factory owners could run another hour in the summer on second shift without using electric lighting. Of course they were running three shifts so it made absolutely no difference anyway. Peter

[MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome? I grew up in Indiana, the time never changed so in the winter we were on Central Time and in the summer we were on Eastern time, or maybe the other way

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Same here. Grew up in Dayton, went to school in Indiana and grew really fond of no time change. On Mar 8, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does anyone else find this whole business

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-08 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
No. Doesn't bother me. Perhaps I've become immune with all my worldly travels and sailing the seven seas (actually only sailed in four of them, so far). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 8, 2015 6:51:45 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is