The rods I was talking about are specifically
for aluminum. I think with cast iron you
might be better off with brazing with brass
rods. Usually pretty strong in cast iron.
Lots of old engine blocks were fixed with
that. I'm talking like 30's and 40's stuff.
Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
Brass works well, but I don't think you're going to get there without acetylene.
-- Jim
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Troybilt Portable Generator Question
Suggestion:
Since you have the broken piece, which likely broke due to casting
porosity, clean the engine case really well, and the broken off piece, then
send Mr. JB Weld to work.
I would use a grinding
Suggestion:
Since you have the broken piece, which likely broke due to casting
porosity, clean the engine case really well, and the broken off piece, then
send Mr. JB Weld to work.
I would use a grinding burr to rough up the surface to be "glued on" so you
get past the casting porosity area, and m
> Think that'll stick to cast iron? Pretty sure that's what the case is made
> of but I have the specs around here I can check.
I doubt you could get the block hot enough for it to stick using a propane
torch.
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I've had poor luck with the regular red Sta-bil, at one point I had a bottle
that clotted, there were little red blobs floating around. What do you do when
your stabilizer needs stabilizer?That said I've got a bottle of blue marine
Sta-bil at camp thats probably 5 years old and seems fine.I mos
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> Cc: MG
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Troybilt Portable Generator Question
>
> How about using some of that aluminum solder rod that the AC people use to
> solder the aluminum lines in AC units. You could solder the perch right back
> onto the case. You may even be able to
Hi Jim,
Wow! You have managed to perfectly describe my social scene, my
financial status and how I manage my time (and some other stuff I
suspect). Yikes, it's spooky!
You're quite the Savant!
;-)
Larry
On 02/12/2019 5:17 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
When talking to your friends
Cool! That's actually the exact size/configuration I need! I'll watch
HF for their sales. Thanks for the heads up!
Larry
On 02/12/2019 4:56 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
If you are looking for a new engine you might want to look at Harbor
freight. If you buy at the right time you could get 25%
If one was loose it came that way from the factory. I guess their QC
program might be lacking... One of the things that impressed me when I
started taking things apart was how snug (tight actually) the fasteners
were. I'm sure there must be some torque wrench settings that aren't
set proper
Yeah, push button is nice. but the battery wasn't charging properly on
1 jan (the date it died) and we started it with the pull rope - started
instantly which surprised me. Also, I may have a compression release
because it pulled so easy.
Yeah, waiting til Spring would be ideal, but here in
You know, now that you mention it, I may have some of those alum rods to
"braze" with - I think I have some that will melt using propane but I
hopefully left the instructions with the rods. I'll look tomorrow.
Think that'll stick to cast iron? Pretty sure that's what the case is
made of but
Really, at this point #4 would be a no-brainer, as the investment in materials
and time is minimal with a chance of a very positive result.
I would try it. WTH, why not?
-D
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> When talking to your friends and neighbors, which
When talking to your friends and neighbors, which is more satisfying?
1) I bought another generator
2) I bought a parts generator and made one out of two
3) I bought a new harbor freight engine for my generator
4) I fixed the broken block on my generator with JB-Weld
#4 also doesn't really cost a
If you are looking for a new engine you might
want to look at Harbor freight. If you buy at
the right time you could get 25% off or more.
Right now their 420cc horizontal shaft engine
is $360. Wait for a sale and it will go down.
I bought a 6 hp engine to replace the 30 year
old B&S cast iro
The last time I did one of those air gap was
.010 in. Should still be the same. Used to be
a feeler gauge set always had a brass .010
blade on it for just that use. It probably
doesn't matter too much other then a larger
gap would make a weaker spark and too small a
gap could cause the flywhe
Thats a pretty big one. Electric start is pretty nice.
If you don't need it right away the best time to look is in spring. Somebody
buys a generator during an outage and in the spring gets rid of it because they
"Won't need that again." or they bought one 2 years ago, the gas got some water
in
Hi Curt,
It's a 7000w with 10.5Kw peak. The engine is 420cc and while I have
been unable to locate the HP it is supposed to be 14-ish. It's called a
B&S Type 2100 w/elec. start, if interested.
Thanks for the suggestion to look at CL, I will hopefully find a repl
engine or suitable Generato
How about using some of that aluminum solder
rod that the AC people use to solder the
aluminum lines in AC units. You could solder
the perch right back onto the case. You may
even be able to build it up a bit to make it
hold better. Should be stronger then JB weld.
I used some to fix a hole i
With all glues I like to use stronger filler and only gap-fill with glue. So,
find a nut or bolt that fits into your hole and glue that into place, etc. I
have no idea about the tolerances of the air gap, but I'm guessing it's a lot
less fussy than points.
-- Jim
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I thought that kind of stuff only happened to me! Condolences.
Thanks for the suggestion! I suppose I could fill the hole with JB and
shape it so I'd have room to drill and tap it. Then it would just be a
matter of finding the right spacers and washers (which I've been
"collecting" for 50 y
What size is the generator?If it were me I'd either
1. troll Craigslist for a replacement similar to what you have for a fraction
of the new price
2. Buy a "Champion" brand from FLAPS or Tractor Supply or whatever. We have one
at camp, we've had it, I forget, 6 or 7 years and its been great. C
I think if you were so inclined you could absolutely fabricate some kind of
JB-Weld attached perch for your coil.
Might take a bit of doing, but could it be all that worse than my welding the
crankcase back together on my
tiller when it threw a rod through the side?
-- Jim
Hi Guys,
Finally had the weather and inclination to work on the generator.
following your suggestion to check the fuel, I removed all fuel from the
tank and let it air out, then hooked my battery charger to the battery
and then cranked and check for spark. I got zero spark while cranking
and
This is the main reason I went to LP for my standby generator: storage.
Natural gas would be OK too if available (not here) and dependable during an
emergency.
LP also powers my kitchen stove and two fireplaces, a bonus. I can keep the
place habitable in winter with one direct-vent fireplace
I think I've been misunderstood, he dumps it back into the big can. That way
if the saw accidentally gets left for a long time its had the good gas in it.
He goes through a quart of canned gas in like 2 years...
-Curt
On Monday, January 14, 2019, 8:44:08 AM EST, Mitch Haley
wrote:
>
That kind of stuff is what made me buy a
battery chainsaw. At 40 volts with two 4 amp
and two 2 amp batteries I can cut wood for 30
min straight. That uses up one tank of oil
for the chain and at my age is all I want to
do. Any more then that and I end up hurting
so this way not only do I not
> On January 14, 2019 at 7:01 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
> Buddy Been cuts trees into firewood as a side gig. He cuts on pump gas, at
> the end of each day he dumps the pump gas and runs a little canned gas in.
> His "cheap" saw cost more than twice as much as my good saw...
I think it's the steady diet. I don't have any issues in anything that gets run
regularly, it's when they sit for an extended period that problems appear.The
snowmobiles are the worst, run hard, get wet, sit all summer under a
tarp...Seafoam gas additive helps a lot.
Curt
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Buddy Been cuts trees into firewood as a side gig. He cuts on pump gas, at the
end of each day he dumps the pump gas and runs a little canned gas in. His
"cheap" saw cost more than twice as much as my good saw...
Curt
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 4:36 PM, Curley
> Curley wrote:
> I have not taken my stihl in because it needed a rebuild in ~40
> years. I mix a gallon a year, and use it to light bonfires etc,
> and yes, it has ethanol in it.
I don't know what you folk do different - or what it is that I do
different. But my experience is _zero_ fuel tro
Oil consumption is measured in hours per quart, with different engines,
cylinders, and ring configurations giving different results. Ours gets
about 5 hours per quart of Phillips 20W-50. We have chromed cylinders and
iron rings - which burn more oil than stell cylinders and chrome rings.
However, t
> On January 13, 2019 at 4:17 PM OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Bear in mind that large air cooled aircraft engines
> have much looser tolerances due to the wide temp swings in operation, thus
> more fuel can get into the crankcase.
My 1977 Saab would go 10,000 miles without appreciable oil
I have not taken my stihl in because it needed a rebuild in ~40 years.
I mix a gallon a year, and use it to light bonfires etc, and yes, it
has ethanol in it. But I do dump the tank and run the saw dry each
time it is stored for any length of time.
True, if I only used the canned mixed gas
The last time it was tried was in the '70's when Mobil came out with a semi
synthetic AV oil. The lead in the oil formed a sludge that blocked oil
passages in the engines. IIRC, there were law suits and Mobil pulled the
oil from the market. Bear in mind that large air cooled aircraft engines
have m
You can't use synthetic oil with low lead gas in a piston engine airplane?
I always used to use 89 octane leaded gas in my Saab with 5W30 Mobil One.
The 'pump gas plus $2' for 100LL holds true here, but they put the E0 pump gas
in the middle instead of closer to the price of E10.
Mitch.
> On
Here in OK, E0 is 20 - 30 cents more per gallon than E1o, and 100LL is
$2.00 more per gallon. I run E0 in the Cessna as much as possible. Lead
fouling of plugs and rings is still a problem for aircraft engines, and
eliminated synthetic oil as an option.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 9:35 AM Mitch Haley
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> On January 13, 2019 at 3:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
> White gas doesn't have any octane, so no. The hardware store has cans of E0
> in various 2 stroke mixes, something like $15/gal but the saw and weed eater
> like it.
My buddy in the Stihl story has been running that s
They rented you a $1000 tool with the agreement you'd only use the special fuel
in it, you used other stuff anyway, and demanded they refund your money?
Here's a true story that made me somewhat mad just hearing about it.
A friend of mine loaned his Stihl saw to his boss at the university, along
White gas doesn't have any octane, so no. The hardware store has cans of E0 in
various 2 stroke mixes, something like $15/gal but the saw and weed eater like
it.
Curt
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 2:38 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
Canned gas? Same as white gas, for Co
Last couple of times I rented a concrete saw, they made me buy the
stuff. The first time I returned it, unopened with no complaint. The
last time, it was a different kid, and he whined and didn't wanna give
me a refund on it, Had ta use it Blah, blah... I stayed there until
they took it ba
no, the deal now is the chainsaw companies want to sell you a liter of
benzin/oil for $8. I think husquarna started it, but Stihl has it
now. the under 50 crowd is too inept to mix gas and oil.
Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 1/13/19 1:38 PM:
Canned gas? Same as white gas, for Coleman st
Canned gas? Same as white gas, for Coleman stove?
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On January 13, 2019 1:30:44 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
wrote:
>I've been buying the canned stuff for the saw. It's expensive but I
>only use maybe a half gallon a year and as it doesn't go bad it's worth
>it.
I've been buying the canned stuff for the saw. It's expensive but I only use
maybe a half gallon a year and as it doesn't go bad it's worth it.
Curt
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 10:35 AM, Mitch Haley via
Mercedes wrote:
> On January 13, 2019 at 6:56 AM Larry T
> On January 13, 2019 at 11:46 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I suspect the gas in my Gen is
> much older than the fuel in the gas cans - maybe going back to 2012.
Ouch.
Now I'm leaning strongly towards a fuel inlet screen in the carb being clogged.
How long did the generator
Thanks Max,
Sounds like a plan. Once I drain the bowl I'll know better how
much water I may have in my gas cans. I suspect the gas in my Gen is
much older than the fuel in the gas cans - maybe going back to 2012.
The gas cans are used for the lawn mowers and usually end up empty at
some
> On January 13, 2019 at 9:41 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I wonder how gasoline would store in (sealed) propane tanks? No atmospheric
> exchange at all, so no change in volatile fractions or water; no continuing
> supply
> of free oxygen for oxidation of volatiles.
Just the oxyg
> On January 13, 2019 at 6:56 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes
> wrote:
> I wish the corn
> farmers would let that go!
Five years ago, if I wanted petroleum based gasoline, I could go to the
airplane pumps (at airstrips that aren't staffed 24/7) and get a jug of 100LL,
or I could drive 90 mil
> Now it seems like even that [fuel storage] is a bad idea.
Storing _gasoline_ is the bad idea. Diesel, and especially propane, store well.
You can stock up on gasoline for an anticipated emergency. But after the threat
has passed you must use it up somehow, because it _won't_ keep.
I wonder h
Blue pumps here. Costs about the same as premium unleaded. Only stuff I use in
any gasoline powered off road equipment. Well worth the additional cost.
-D
> On Jan 13, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> Sounds like you simply need to drain / clean the carb, d
Larry,
Sounds like you simply need to drain / clean the carb, drain and refill the
tank. Take old stale gas to a recycling place.
I only store fuel that is ethanol free. In my area, many gas stations have a
dedicated pump just for ethanol free. Fill my storage as necessary, add a
stabilizer,
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 09:10:56 -0500 Larry Turner via Mercedes
wrote:
> One thing I noticed about Mr Funnel was the FAQ saying "Do not
> fill from a gas pump into portable fuel containers using Mr. Funnel"
> which would seem to make it much more difficult to use. Am I supposed
> to take
One thing I noticed about Mr Funnel was the FAQ saying "Do not
fill from a gas pump into portable fuel containers using Mr. Funnel"
which would seem to make it much more difficult to use. Am I supposed
to take my Gen to the gas station whenever it needs fuel? That would
negate a lot of
I watched the video and all the pages on their site but never saw any
price. Any idea?
Larry
On 01/12/2019 11:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 21:10:19 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
Put a can under the carb bowl, remove the bolt at center of float bowl,
drop bowl, wit
Thank you Sir! I will check that 1st and let ya'll know. Sounds like a
definite likelihood. Hope that's it, then I won't have to worry about
testing the black boxes. Ethanol in the fuel has caused problem for me
in small engines before, usually the needle and seat. I wish the corn
farmers
Thanks Mitch,
That was how I proceeded so far. Asked my wife to hold the spark plug
wire while I pulled the started but she declined. Probably good as if I
had done that she's still be making my life miserable. ;-)
When the Gen stopped (in the dark and cold naturally) I topped it off
but no g
I have two sizes of that funnel great idea... doesn't work that well.
The fuel in the generator tank will absorb water if it's ethanol "enhanced
fuel" which it all is today, unless you search for untreated fuel and
pay a premium for it Think, "Scotch and water"... does the scotch float
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 21:10:19 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> Put a can under the carb bowl, remove the bolt at center of float bowl,
> drop bowl, with contents into can.. Inspect for water Bet that is
> your problem..
>
> Ethanol gas is hydroscopic.. it draws moisture and absorbs it .. sa
Check the carb float bowl for water. Your post says engine speed increased
or sound changed before shutdown...
Water in fuel migrates into the float bowl... and accumulates in the
bottom, as water level increases, less and less fuel can pass through the
main jet in the center of the carb just abo
The old way to manage the 'oil alert' shutoff was to short out the ignition
like an ignition switch does.
Some generators have a solenoid on the carb operated by the oil level switch,
usually through a control box.
If the engine note changed before shutdown, the shutdown wasn't purely
electri
Hi Gang,
Had a power outage recently (Jan 1) and used our Troybilt Portable
Generator (with a Briggs & Stratton engine) so we didn't lose the stuff
in out freezer. So a few hours into the outage, we were going to bed
and could hear the generator cranking away. An hour or 2 later, I
hear
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