Re: [MBZ] OT a little light reading on injection

2013-01-06 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Good questions... I know one of the Nitske books mentions a dreary
war-time charcoal burning 170, so they did get cars running on it for
practical purposes at some point.

Jaime



On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote:

 In Frank DeLuca's History of Fuel Injection, he writes about  . . .
 .mountainous piles of powdered coal which had been accumulating throughout
 the countryside.
 Do we know the origin of all that coal dust? What has since become of it?
 Did two world wars somehow make the accumulation go away?

 Jerry
 1982 240D
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Re: [MBZ] OT a little light reading on injection

2013-01-06 Thread Dieselhead

Good questions... I know one of the Nitske books mentions a dreary
war-time charcoal burning 170, so they did get cars running on it for
practical purposes at some point.

Jaime


Charcoal is very different than coal dust.  During WWII, many gassers 
were converted to woodgas.  Most of the farm tractors ran on woodgas. 
This is gasification of wood.  It is done on a burner attached to the 
vehicle.  The gas is produced by burning the wood in a oxygen lean 
environment.  There is a nice example in the Deutschesmuseum in 
Munich.


Mountains of coal dust have been buried (or not) in the USA.  A few 
years ago I saw a number of how much fuel that represented.  It is a 
staggering amount of Billions of BTUs.   THe problem is that coal 
dust oxidizes when exposed to air, and oxidation is just a slow 
process with results similar to burning.  The oxidation makes the 
stored coal dust much less valuable as fuel, thus impractical.


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[MBZ] OT a little light reading on injection

2013-01-06 Thread Jerry Herrman
In Hendrik's submission (Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 33, Message: 2), he 
attached a link to a report by Frank DeLuca entitled History of Fuel 
Injection. In the article he mentioned that Rudolph Diesel wanted to use 
leftover piles of coal dust as fuel. I asked about the origin and eventual 
disposition of this material.
Craig responded with the questions Which countryside? When?
The first sentence in the report states When Rudolph Diesel contracted with 
Augsburg and Krupp of Germany in 1893 to develop a more efficient internal 
combustion engine, one of his objectives was to use a s fuel the mountainous 
piles of powdered coal which had been accumulating throughout the countryside. 
I presume this means in pre-WWI Germany.

Now. I just created something else I'm curious about. As I typed this out, I 
copied and pasted, which caused my page to have several sizes of print. I am 
wondering if, when it get appears in the forum, the print size will be uniform, 
or if it will print with various sizes. If the latter, I apologize in advance 
for the difficult-to-read text.

Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] OT a little light reading on injection

2013-01-06 Thread Craig
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:55:48 -0800 Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com
wrote:

 Now. I just created something else I'm curious about. As I typed this
 out, I copied and pasted, which caused my page to have several sizes of
 print. I am wondering if, when it get appears in the forum, the print
 size will be uniform, or if it will print with various sizes. If the
 latter, I apologize in advance for the difficult-to-read text.

If you send only text email (and not HTML), you will never have problems
with difficult-to-read text; the recipient has selected the text he wants
to see in his email client. In addition, your email will not waste network
bandwidth by transmitting extra stuff.

Your email came across as text email and is very readable.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT a little light reading on injection

2013-01-05 Thread Jerry Herrman
In Frank DeLuca's History of Fuel Injection, he writes about  . . . 
.mountainous piles of powdered coal which had been accumulating throughout the 
countryside.
Do we know the origin of all that coal dust? What has since become of it? Did 
two world wars somehow make the accumulation go away?

Jerry
1982 240D
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Re: [MBZ] OT a little light reading on injection

2013-01-05 Thread Craig
On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 21:55:10 -0800 Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com
wrote:

 In Frank DeLuca's History of Fuel Injection, he writes about
  . . . .mountainous piles of powdered coal which had been accumulating
 throughout the countryside.

Which countryside? When?


 Do we know the origin of all that coal dust? What has since become of
 it? Did two world wars somehow make the accumulation go away?

We need to know the answers to my two questions first.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT a little light reading on injection

2013-01-04 Thread Hendrik and fay

http://www.dieselduck.net/historical/05%20documents/History%20of%20fuel%20injection.pdf

Hendrik
who doesn't understand half of that stuff

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