Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeah, about 6 table spoons of crystals to a gallon of HOT water. For derusting 
lantern founts I usually us 2 tablespoons per gallon.
-Curt

  From: Craig 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 6:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
   
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 16:46:03 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Our shower drain gets slow (clogs) a couple times a year. I make a
> slurry with baking soda and water, pour that in and let it set a couple
> hours. Then mix up some HOT liquid citric acid 

liquid citric acid?


> and pour that in, it fizzes like crazy for awhile, then pull the
> strainer and reach in with a wire and the remaining hair just falls
> off. Plug the drain from the top, fill the tub, pull the plug and blast
> the drain with the plunger a couple times and its all clear. Looking at
> it typed out it looks harder than it is, takes maybe half an hour of
> actual effort plus a couple hours letting the baking soda sit. -Curt


   
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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[MG via Mercedes]

I'm just going by the manual which says 100g/L. With 12.5 L in 
the 123 cooling system that would be 1250 grams or around 2.75lbs 
according to one conversion program.


What are you using to get 7.5 lbs?

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

That would be 7.5 lbs of anhydrous citric acid to the appropriate amount of
water. There is only one strength of anhydrous citric acid - full.

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:15 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:


I'm a bit confused here. What strength citric acid is that and where do
you get it? According to the MB manual I need to use 2.75 lbs for a flush.
Are there differing strengths of citric acid and if so which strength
should be used to make a 10% solution?

Manfred








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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That would be 7.5 lbs of anhydrous citric acid to the appropriate amount of
water. There is only one strength of anhydrous citric acid - full.

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:15 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I'm a bit confused here. What strength citric acid is that and where do
> you get it? According to the MB manual I need to use 2.75 lbs for a flush.
> Are there differing strengths of citric acid and if so which strength
> should be used to make a 10% solution?
>
> Manfred
>
>>
>>


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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[OK Don via Mercedes]

http://www.chemistrystore.com/Chemicals_A-F-Citric_Acid_Anhydrous.html

https://www.amazon.com/Citric-Grade-Granular-Anhydrous-fizzies/dp/B01N6YMXGS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1488591396&sr=8-4&keywords=Citric+Acid+Anhydrous+10+lb

I also found a 10 pound pail at a commercial chemicals supply company in
OKC once.


On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Got a link to somewhere to buy it?
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[MG via Mercedes]

I'm a bit confused here. What strength citric acid is that and 
where do you get it? According to the MB manual I need to use 
2.75 lbs for a flush. Are there differing strengths of citric 
acid and if so which strength should be used to make a 10% solution?


Manfred

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Sure acetic acid would work. I like citric acid because it comes dry and 5# 
makes probably 500 gallons of liquid so its easy to have a lot, oh and it 
doesn't smell.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 

 Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 3:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
   
Would hot vinegar be an acceptable substitute for citric acid?


On Mar 3, 2017 11:58 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:


That or shave their heads?



-D



On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Maybe you should install a garbage disposal in your shower like Kramer.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 3, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Our shower drain gets slow (clogs) a couple times a year. I make a

slurry with baking soda and water, pour that in and let it set a couple
hours. Then mix up some HOT liquid citric acid and pour that in, it fizzes
like crazy for awhile, then pull the strainer and reach in with a wire and
the remaining hair just falls off. Plug the drain from the top, fill the
tub, pull the plug and blast the drain with the plunger a couple times and
its all clear.

Looking at it typed out it looks harder than it is, takes maybe half an

hour of actual effort plus a couple hours letting the baking soda sit.

-Curt

From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
To: "List, Mercedes" 
Cc: roger...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

Kaleb,
What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at

least twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm
just lucky or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I
built my house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the disposal,
GE maybe?

Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some sort,

after all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines?

Good luck and best wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com



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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

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Craig via Mercedes 
March 3, 2017 at 5:19 PM


liquid citric acid?




Hot lemon juice.
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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 16:46:03 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Our shower drain gets slow (clogs) a couple times a year. I make a
> slurry with baking soda and water, pour that in and let it set a couple
> hours. Then mix up some HOT liquid citric acid 

liquid citric acid?


> and pour that in, it fizzes like crazy for awhile, then pull the
> strainer and reach in with a wire and the remaining hair just falls
> off. Plug the drain from the top, fill the tub, pull the plug and blast
> the drain with the plunger a couple times and its all clear. Looking at
> it typed out it looks harder than it is, takes maybe half an hour of
> actual effort plus a couple hours letting the baking soda sit. -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Only if you get real apples and stomp them with your own real bare feet 
and ferment the juice in your own oak barrel, with air exposed, for a 
couple years.  Then you will have real vinegar.   The commercial stuff 
is watered down.


Your feet will turn brown for a few days.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
March 3, 2017 at 2:37 PM
Would hot vinegar be an acceptable substitute for citric acid?


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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Got a link to somewhere to buy it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Vinegar is probably too weak. You need a supply of citric acid on hand to
> clean your MB engine cooling systems anyway, plus it works really well for
> removing water stains, cleaning the dishwasher, etc. Buy 10 pounds and
> don't look back.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Would hot vinegar be an acceptable substitute for citric acid?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I use a couple of packets of KoolAid lemonade to clean my Bosch dishwasher.  
Makes it nice and lemony fresh.

-D


> On Mar 3, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sure acetic acid would work. I like citric acid because it comes dry and 5# 
> makes probably 500 gallons of liquid so its easy to have a lot, oh and it 
> doesn't smell.
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
> 
> Would hot vinegar be an acceptable substitute for citric acid?
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sure acetic acid would work. I like citric acid because it comes dry and 5# 
makes probably 500 gallons of liquid so its easy to have a lot, oh and it 
doesn't smell.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 3:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
   
Would hot vinegar be an acceptable substitute for citric acid?

On Mar 3, 2017 11:58 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> That or shave their heads?
>
> 
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe you should install a garbage disposal in your shower like Kramer.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Mar 3, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our shower drain gets slow (clogs) a couple times a year. I make a
> slurry with baking soda and water, pour that in and let it set a couple
> hours. Then mix up some HOT liquid citric acid and pour that in, it fizzes
> like crazy for awhile, then pull the strainer and reach in with a wire and
> the remaining hair just falls off. Plug the drain from the top, fill the
> tub, pull the plug and blast the drain with the plunger a couple times and
> its all clear.
> >> Looking at it typed out it looks harder than it is, takes maybe half an
> hour of actual effort plus a couple hours letting the baking soda sit.
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>    From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
> >> To: "List, Mercedes" 
> >> Cc: roger...@comcast.net
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:47 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
> >>
> >> Kaleb,
> >> What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at
> least twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm
> just lucky or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I
> built my house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the disposal,
> GE maybe?
> >> Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some sort,
> after all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines?
> >> Good luck and best wishes,
> >> Roger
> >> Roger Hale
> >> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >> Monroe, Ga.
> >> 770-267-0850
> >> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Vinegar is probably too weak. You need a supply of citric acid on hand to
clean your MB engine cooling systems anyway, plus it works really well for
removing water stains, cleaning the dishwasher, etc. Buy 10 pounds and
don't look back.

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Would hot vinegar be an acceptable substitute for citric acid?
>
>
>
> --
>
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Would hot vinegar be an acceptable substitute for citric acid?

On Mar 3, 2017 11:58 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> That or shave their heads?
>
> 
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe you should install a garbage disposal in your shower like Kramer.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Mar 3, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our shower drain gets slow (clogs) a couple times a year. I make a
> slurry with baking soda and water, pour that in and let it set a couple
> hours. Then mix up some HOT liquid citric acid and pour that in, it fizzes
> like crazy for awhile, then pull the strainer and reach in with a wire and
> the remaining hair just falls off. Plug the drain from the top, fill the
> tub, pull the plug and blast the drain with the plunger a couple times and
> its all clear.
> >> Looking at it typed out it looks harder than it is, takes maybe half an
> hour of actual effort plus a couple hours letting the baking soda sit.
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>     From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
> >> To: "List, Mercedes" 
> >> Cc: roger...@comcast.net
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:47 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
> >>
> >> Kaleb,
> >> What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at
> least twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm
> just lucky or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I
> built my house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the disposal,
> GE maybe?
> >> Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some sort,
> after all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines?
> >> Good luck and best wishes,
> >> Roger
> >> Roger Hale
> >> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >> Monroe, Ga.
> >> 770-267-0850
> >> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >>
>
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That or shave their heads?



-D


> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe you should install a garbage disposal in your shower like Kramer.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Our shower drain gets slow (clogs) a couple times a year. I make a slurry 
>> with baking soda and water, pour that in and let it set a couple hours. Then 
>> mix up some HOT liquid citric acid and pour that in, it fizzes like crazy 
>> for awhile, then pull the strainer and reach in with a wire and the 
>> remaining hair just falls off. Plug the drain from the top, fill the tub, 
>> pull the plug and blast the drain with the plunger a couple times and its 
>> all clear.
>> Looking at it typed out it looks harder than it is, takes maybe half an hour 
>> of actual effort plus a couple hours letting the baking soda sit.
>> -Curt
>> 
>> From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
>> To: "List, Mercedes"  
>> Cc: roger...@comcast.net
>> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
>> 
>> Kaleb, 
>> What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at least 
>> twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm just 
>> lucky or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I built 
>> my house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the disposal, GE 
>> maybe? 
>> Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some sort, 
>> after all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines? 
>> Good luck and best wishes, 
>> Roger 
>> Roger Hale 
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
>> Monroe, Ga. 
>> 770-267-0850 
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
>> 


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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe you should install a garbage disposal in your shower like Kramer.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Our shower drain gets slow (clogs) a couple times a year. I make a slurry 
> with baking soda and water, pour that in and let it set a couple hours. Then 
> mix up some HOT liquid citric acid and pour that in, it fizzes like crazy for 
> awhile, then pull the strainer and reach in with a wire and the remaining 
> hair just falls off. Plug the drain from the top, fill the tub, pull the plug 
> and blast the drain with the plunger a couple times and its all clear.
> Looking at it typed out it looks harder than it is, takes maybe half an hour 
> of actual effort plus a couple hours letting the baking soda sit.
> -Curt
> 
>  From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
> To: "List, Mercedes"  
> Cc: roger...@comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
> 
> Kaleb, 
> What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at least 
> twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm just 
> lucky or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I built 
> my house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the disposal, GE 
> maybe? 
> Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some sort, after 
> all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines? 
> Good luck and best wishes, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
> 
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Our shower drain gets slow (clogs) a couple times a year. I make a slurry with 
baking soda and water, pour that in and let it set a couple hours. Then mix up 
some HOT liquid citric acid and pour that in, it fizzes like crazy for awhile, 
then pull the strainer and reach in with a wire and the remaining hair just 
falls off. Plug the drain from the top, fill the tub, pull the plug and blast 
the drain with the plunger a couple times and its all clear.
Looking at it typed out it looks harder than it is, takes maybe half an hour of 
actual effort plus a couple hours letting the baking soda sit.
-Curt

  From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
 To: "List, Mercedes"  
Cc: roger...@comcast.net
 Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
   
Kaleb, 
What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at least 
twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm just lucky 
or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I built my 
house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the disposal, GE maybe? 
Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some sort, after 
all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines? 
Good luck and best wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

He needs to get a decent real estate agent to take care of that property.

-D


> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thats what we have. My wife likes to let silverware go down the drain and 
> then apparently can't hear the gawd-awful noise it makes so I have to come 
> running in and tell her to shut it off. Every couple months I take the pile 
> of spoons and grind the dents back out of them.
> Insinkerator uses a neat system where the blades are fixed and the "stuff" 
> gets thrown against them. Since the gap between the thrower and the blades is 
> pretty large is difficult for stuff, other than spoons, to get trapped in the 
> gap and lock it up.
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> Cc: Meade Dillon 
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
> 
> Insinkerator?  I've heard they are the best.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
>> the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage disposal
>> I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
>> anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some unknown
>> and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
>> cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure what
>> she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of the
>> carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
>> course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth is
>> missing. Lord help me.
>> 
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We compost most of our food waste but the garbage disposal is sure handy for 
"stuff" that falls off plates and out of pans and whatnot. It just means we 
don't have to be all that careful scraping plates before washing...
-Curt

  From: OK Don via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 10:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
   
I think a dog and a compost pile makes for less maintenance than a
disposal. Less noise as well.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Yes
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Insinkerator?  I've heard they are the best.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
> >> the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage
> disposal
> >> I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
> >> anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some
> unknown
> >> and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
> >> cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure
> what
> >> she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of
> the
> >> carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
> >> course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth
> is
> >> missing. Lord help me.
> >>
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats what we have. My wife likes to let silverware go down the drain and then 
apparently can't hear the gawd-awful noise it makes so I have to come running 
in and tell her to shut it off. Every couple months I take the pile of spoons 
and grind the dents back out of them.
Insinkerator uses a neat system where the blades are fixed and the "stuff" gets 
thrown against them. Since the gap between the thrower and the blades is pretty 
large is difficult for stuff, other than spoons, to get trapped in the gap and 
lock it up.
-Curt

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Cc: Meade Dillon 
 Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
   
Insinkerator?  I've heard they are the best.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
> the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage disposal
> I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
> anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some unknown
> and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
> cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure what
> she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of the
> carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
> course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth is
> missing. Lord help me.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well the wife is going to stick her hand down in there and see what she can 
pull out, then go from there.

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> On Mar 2, 2017, at 10:47 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb, 
> What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at least 
> twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm just 
> lucky or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I built 
> my house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the disposal, GE 
> maybe? 
> Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some sort, after 
> all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines? 
> Good luck and best wishes, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

He needs a Stephan, 30 HP


rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
March 2, 2017 at 10:47 PM
Kaleb,
What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at 
least twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if 
I'm just lucky or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 
1999 when I built my house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't 
remember the disposal, GE maybe?
Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some 
sort, after all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines?

Good luck and best wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Kaleb, 
What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at least 
twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm just lucky 
or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I built my 
house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the disposal, GE maybe? 
Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some sort, after 
all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines? 
Good luck and best wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This one is just slightly louder than the Bosch dishwasher. It's top of the 
line and cost about $400, very expensive for a disposal.

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> On Mar 2, 2017, at 9:42 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My barking dog  completely drowns out the sound of my insinkerater quiet 
> garbage disposal!
> Kevin in OR
> 
> Sent from my cell   
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Since we are on a septic I don't like to use it much, mainly just light food 
>> scraps from plates before loading into dishwasher 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 9:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think a dog and a compost pile makes for less maintenance than a
>>> disposal. Less noise as well.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Yes
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Insinkerator?  I've heard they are the best.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
>> the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage
 disposal
>> I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
>> anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some
 unknown
>> and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
>> cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure
 what
>> she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of
 the
>> carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
>> course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth
 is
>> missing. Lord help me.
>> 
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>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>> 
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>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
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>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
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My barking dog  completely drowns out the sound of my insinkerater quiet 
garbage disposal!
Kevin in OR

Sent from my cell   

> On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since we are on a septic I don't like to use it much, mainly just light food 
> scraps from plates before loading into dishwasher 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 9:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think a dog and a compost pile makes for less maintenance than a
>> disposal. Less noise as well.
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Insinkerator?  I've heard they are the best.
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
 On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
> the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage
>>> disposal
> I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
> anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some
>>> unknown
> and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
> cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure
>>> what
> she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of
>>> the
> carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
> course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth
>>> is
> missing. Lord help me.
> 
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>> for themselves."
>> 
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Since we are on a septic I don't like to use it much, mainly just light food 
scraps from plates before loading into dishwasher 

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> On Mar 2, 2017, at 9:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I think a dog and a compost pile makes for less maintenance than a
> disposal. Less noise as well.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Insinkerator?  I've heard they are the best.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
 the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage
>> disposal
 I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
 anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some
>> unknown
 and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
 cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure
>> what
 she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of
>> the
 carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
 course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth
>> is
 missing. Lord help me.
 
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> for themselves."
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

I think a dog and a compost pile makes for less maintenance than a
disposal. Less noise as well.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Insinkerator?  I've heard they are the best.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
> >> the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage
> disposal
> >> I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
> >> anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some
> unknown
> >> and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
> >> cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure
> what
> >> she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of
> the
> >> carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
> >> course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth
> is
> >> missing. Lord help me.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes

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> On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Insinkerator?  I've heard they are the best.
> 
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> Max
> Charleston SC
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> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
>> the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage disposal
>> I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
>> anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some unknown
>> and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
>> cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure what
>> she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of the
>> carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
>> course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth is
>> missing. Lord help me.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think the key is just a hex key, not sure it it would be standard or
metric.

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Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
> the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage disposal
> I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
> anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some unknown
> and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
> cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure what
> she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of the
> carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
> course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth is
> missing. Lord help me.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Insinkerator?  I've heard they are the best.

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Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of
> the Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage disposal
> I could find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up
> anything, put bones down it, will chop them up no problem. For some unknown
> and unexplained reason the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum
> cleaner water down in and managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure what
> she was thinking. I can only assume it's got a big mess of hair out of the
> carpet wrapped tight around the blades or small rocks or something. Of
> course the tool that comes with it to manually crank it back and forth is
> missing. Lord help me.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] OT garbage disposals

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So when I redid the plumbing under the kitchen since with the install of the 
Bosch dishwasher i installed the biggest most powerful garbage disposal I could 
find that also supposedly self clears jams. It can chop up anything, put bones 
down it, will chop them up no problem. For some unknown and unexplained reason 
the wife decided to dump the used rainbow vacuum cleaner water down in and 
managed to jam it up tight. Not really sure what she was thinking. I can only 
assume it's got a big mess of hair out of the carpet wrapped tight around the 
blades or small rocks or something. Of course the tool that comes with it to 
manually crank it back and forth is missing. Lord help me.

Sent from my iPhone

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