Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would agree on your observations from a functional standpoint, no politics or 
personalities involved.

I would say that in my experience with various factions in our government that 
I found the State Department often played loose and fast with little regard for 
the "rules", if there were any. It was almost always a "do whatever it takes 
and we'll deal with the fallout afterwards" when it was a high visibility or 
high value asset we were doing the work for.  Fortunately, we were not the ones 
who had to deal with fallout, only being the "fixers" in the situation.

That being said, our actions often involved the expenditure of funds that were 
not always warranted. That is, we got paid to clean up someone else's mess 
rather than them holding the responsible party responsible.

Dan

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> On Aug 31, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend.  I 
> pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) had 
> I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home 
> classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to 
> unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house, cars, 
> bank account, everything would be gone.  And yet here we have a person, who 
> could not have been doing the job correctly without the transmission of large 
> amounts of classified info, day in day out, admitting to having broken the 
> law (no matter the parsing of words).  It is just plainly apparent that this 
> stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. And it is highly likely that 
> all this information has fallen into the hands of the bad guys, which is 
> treasonous behavior.
> 
> I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with any 
> political view.  It is just practical application of the law that applies to 
> anyone with a security clearance and access to classified info.  If some 
> low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that person would 
> be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now.  I can understand 
> the politics involved here, but that woman should be sitting in a prison cell 
> right now.
> 
> --R

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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the 
weekend.  I pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only 
SECRET not SI/TK) had I done anything remotely close to what she has 
done -- brought home classified info, emailed info, left info in an 
unsecured area, copied it to unsecured media -- I would be in some 
federal prison somewhere, house, cars, bank account, everything 
would be gone.  And yet here we have a person, who could not have 
been doing the job correctly without the transmission of large 
amounts of classified info, day in day out, admitting to having 
broken the law (no matter the parsing of words).  It is just plainly 
apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. And 
it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the 
hands of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior.


I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do 
with any political view.  It is just practical application of the 
law that applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to 
classified info.  If some low-level staffer in the comms section had 
been doing this, that person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning 
at Club Fed right now.  I can understand the politics involved here, 
but that woman should be sitting in a prison cell right now.


--R


Should be swingin from a tree or a yardarm.  You mentioned the T word.


But the law is fer "little  people"  not the c lin ton crime machine. 
That's just  how things are done in the South; Doncha know?


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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The key issue is that the various organs of Justice are dragging their 
feet and stonewalling actually prosecuting these clear violations of the 
law, in whatever degree.  It is seeming too that these willful 
violations could have (quite possibly did) led to the death of the 
Ambassador to Libya and other Americans, and who knows what else, if 
mishandling or disclosure of classified information regarding their 
activities and locations allowed it to be in the possession of the bad 
guys.  That rises to a whole new level of criminality.


Even if that did not happen, just the dereliction of clear duty with 
respect to proper handling of classified information is a total 
disqualification for consideration to any political office, much less 
the presidency.


--R



On 8/31/15 11:38 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the 
weekend.  I pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only 
SECRET not SI/TK) had I done anything remotely close to what she has 
done -- brought home classified info, emailed info, left info in an 
unsecured area, copied it to unsecured media -- I would be in some 
federal prison somewhere, house, cars, bank account, everything would 
be gone.  And yet here we have a person, who could not have been 
doing the job correctly without the transmission of large amounts of 
classified info, day in day out, admitting to having broken the law 
(no matter the parsing of words).  It is just plainly apparent that 
this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. And it is highly 
likely that all this information has fallen into the hands of the bad 
guys, which is treasonous behavior.


I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do 
with any political view.  It is just practical application of the law 
that applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to 
classified info.  If some low-level staffer in the comms section had 
been doing this, that person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning 
at Club Fed right now.  I can understand the politics involved here, 
but that woman should be sitting in a prison cell right now.


--R


Should be swingin from a tree or a yardarm.  You mentioned the T word.


But the law is fer "little  people"  not the c lin ton crime machine. 
That's just  how things are done in the South; Doncha know?


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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Her actions, by direct and indirect admission, violate secret and above
security clearance regulations. She seems to fail to believe she will be
held accountable at this time. That belief does not relieve her of being
held responsible, it only momentarily delays her ultimate punishment, what
ever that may be.

Should a real leader take office of POTUS and appoint a real Attorney
General, her account will be settled in a way that should make an example
to others for a long time. I don't believe there is a statue of limitation
on treason, or fraud, or murder. It appears there was an active
participation in all three of those.

Now... who was it that wanted a supply of "I'm ready for Hillary" bumper
sticker?

Mercedes question:  I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot
Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which
should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration?  Or, keep both sets and
change them as my mood changes?

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend.  I
> pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK)
> had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home
> classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to
> unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house,
> cars, bank account, everything would be gone.  And yet here we have a
> person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without the
> transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out, admitting
> to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words).  It is just
> plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior.
> And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the hands
> of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior.
>
> I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with
> any political view.  It is just practical application of the law that
> applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to classified info.
> If some low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that
> person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now.  I
> can understand the politics involved here, but that woman should be sitting
> in a prison cell right now.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 8/30/15 11:16 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement
>> in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all
>> assets
>> would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held,
>> and
>> imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law.
>>
>> Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of
>> public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power
>> and trust.
>>
>> Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political
>> party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, logical
>> conclusion can be made that ample evidence of a long standing criminal
>> enterprise has been operated by them working in concert with others.
>>
>> Politics be damned, holding the vessel of public office does not give free
>> pass to violate laws.
>>
>> This video is now on youtube, it runs 1:33 and while long, covers some of
>> the back story of the Clintons. It has first party interviews [many] with
>> people who observed illegal activity or participated in illegal activity
>> with or at the direction of Clintons. If you watch it, draw your own
>> conclusions.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/C8B43JOshC4
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Craig,
>>>
>>> The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that
>>> Republicans
>>> may be stealing the signs.  I have my doubts about that.
>>>
>>> I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
>>>
>>> On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the
 signs because they don't like what they say.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Are those the SEL-type wheels?  I have a set of those too that came with 
one of the SDs, one pair has a good set of snow tars mounted. Note they 
require longer bolts than do the bundts.


Polished and shiny look kinda pimp if that is the look you are going 
for.  Yo G!


--R



On 8/31/15 12:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Mercedes question:  I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot
Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which
should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration?  Or, keep both sets and
change them as my mood changes?



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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yes.. the wheels are from an 87/88 SEL era Mercedes.

I'm not in love with the polished "bling bling" look, but I did want to
migrate to 15 inch tires. Selection of 14" tires is getting near impossible
to get, but I want to preserve the "Mercedes look" .

I'm actually thinking of bead blasting the polished set and powder coating
them back to "original" .. or selling them, perhaps.. On reflection, I
think I prefer the stock painted look.

Just did a count of Bundt style 14" wheels.. I have 25 of them.. anyone
need some?
Also have a set of 4 Centra 15" wheels, with proper hub caps and bolts.
They have some de- lamination of the crome from the aluminum base of the
rim.. I think they will likely go to scrap.




On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Are those the SEL-type wheels?  I have a set of those too that came with
> one of the SDs, one pair has a good set of snow tars mounted. Note they
> require longer bolts than do the bundts.
>
> Polished and shiny look kinda pimp if that is the look you are going for.
> Yo G!
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 8/31/15 12:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Mercedes question:  I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot
>> Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which
>> should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration?  Or, keep both sets and
>> change them as my mood changes?
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

15" wheels make all the difference in the world as far as ride and handling. My 
LWB W123 had 15" wheels, and it drove very differently than a W123 with 14" 
wheels.

Too bad you don't have a set of 15" bundts. Those things are darned near 
unobtanium these days.

Dan

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> On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes.. the wheels are from an 87/88 SEL era Mercedes.
> 
> I'm not in love with the polished "bling bling" look, but I did want to
> migrate to 15 inch tires. Selection of 14" tires is getting near impossible
> to get, but I want to preserve the "Mercedes look" .
> 
> I'm actually thinking of bead blasting the polished set and powder coating
> them back to "original" .. or selling them, perhaps.. On reflection, I
> think I prefer the stock painted look.
> 
> Just did a count of Bundt style 14" wheels.. I have 25 of them.. anyone
> need some?
> Also have a set of 4 Centra 15" wheels, with proper hub caps and bolts.
> They have some de- lamination of the crome from the aluminum base of the
> rim.. I think they will likely go to scrap.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Are those the SEL-type wheels?  I have a set of those too that came with
>> one of the SDs, one pair has a good set of snow tars mounted. Note they
>> require longer bolts than do the bundts.
>> 
>> Polished and shiny look kinda pimp if that is the look you are going for.
>> Yo G!
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/31/15 12:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mercedes question:  I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot
>>> Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which
>>> should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration?  Or, keep both sets and
>>> change them as my mood changes?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yes, 15" Bundt wheels would be "restoration correct look" for the Coupe.
However, after 3 months of search.. have not turned up even one, much less
a set of 5 [need a matching spare, you know].

So they are as declared " Unobtanium" .. unless I wish to buy new, at
quoted price of $389.00 each, plus shipping..

So.. for now, I will use the 15" SEL 15 slot wheels, which look "Mercedes
enough" for most. If the restore comes out show quality.. I might spring
for the 15" Bundt wheels... although, personally, I prefer the look of the
15 slot wheels.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 15" wheels make all the difference in the world as far as ride and
> handling. My LWB W123 had 15" wheels, and it drove very differently than a
> W123 with 14" wheels.
>
> Too bad you don't have a set of 15" bundts. Those things are darned near
> unobtanium these days.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes.. the wheels are from an 87/88 SEL era Mercedes.
> >
> > I'm not in love with the polished "bling bling" look, but I did want to
> > migrate to 15 inch tires. Selection of 14" tires is getting near
> impossible
> > to get, but I want to preserve the "Mercedes look" .
> >
> > I'm actually thinking of bead blasting the polished set and powder
> coating
> > them back to "original" .. or selling them, perhaps.. On reflection, I
> > think I prefer the stock painted look.
> >
> > Just did a count of Bundt style 14" wheels.. I have 25 of them.. anyone
> > need some?
> > Also have a set of 4 Centra 15" wheels, with proper hub caps and bolts.
> > They have some de- lamination of the crome from the aluminum base of the
> > rim.. I think they will likely go to scrap.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Are those the SEL-type wheels?  I have a set of those too that came with
> >> one of the SDs, one pair has a good set of snow tars mounted. Note they
> >> require longer bolts than do the bundts.
> >>
> >> Polished and shiny look kinda pimp if that is the look you are going
> for.
> >> Yo G!
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 8/31/15 12:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mercedes question:  I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot
> >>> Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which
> >>> should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration?  Or, keep both sets and
> >>> change them as my mood changes?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[WILTON via Mercedes]

The polished ones look "pimpy."

Wilton

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Her actions, by direct and indirect admission, violate secret and above
security clearance regulations. She seems to fail to believe she will be
held accountable at this time. That belief does not relieve her of being
held responsible, it only momentarily delays her ultimate punishment, what
ever that may be.

Should a real leader take office of POTUS and appoint a real Attorney
General, her account will be settled in a way that should make an example
to others for a long time. I don't believe there is a statue of limitation
on treason, or fraud, or murder. It appears there was an active
participation in all three of those.

Now... who was it that wanted a supply of "I'm ready for Hillary" bumper
sticker?

Mercedes question:  I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot
Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which
should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration?  Or, keep both sets and
change them as my mood changes?

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend.  I
pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK)
had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home
classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it 
to

unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house,
cars, bank account, everything would be gone.  And yet here we have a
person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without the
transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out, 
admitting

to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words).  It is just
plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior.
And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the 
hands

of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior.

I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with
any political view.  It is just practical application of the law that
applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to classified 
info.

If some low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that
person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now.  I
can understand the politics involved here, but that woman should be 
sitting

in a prison cell right now.

--R



On 8/30/15 11:16 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal 
involvement

in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all
assets
would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held,
and
imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law.

Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of
public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power
and trust.

Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political
party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, 
logical

conclusion can be made that ample evidence of a long standing criminal
enterprise has been operated by them working in concert with others.

Politics be damned, holding the vessel of public office does not give 
free

pass to violate laws.

This video is now on youtube, it runs 1:33 and while long, covers some 
of
the back story of the Clintons. It has first party interviews [many] 
with

people who observed illegal activity or participated in illegal activity
with or at the direction of Clintons. If you watch it, draw your own
conclusions.

https://youtu.be/C8B43JOshC4

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Craig,


The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that
Republicans
may be stealing the signs.  I have my doubts about that.

I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design!

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the
signs because they don't like what they say.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

So?  they can always be painted as original, or painted with paint 
that is "close enough" to original, depending on Grant's taste and 
cash roll.


I choose the "close enough" route, none of my cars are for show.  It 
sounds like Grant's job may warrant use of OE paint.




The polished ones look "pimpy."

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[G Mann via Mercedes]

My thought also Wilton. I got them as part of a "package buy"  and sort of
thought about using them.. but it's to much "bling" for the car.

They ruin the stately elegance of the Coupe for me. So.. I'll sell the
polished set, or bead blast them to take the shine off and powder coat them
to proper finish.
Might put them to use on the 300 SD, come to think of it..

Of all the Mercedes wheels, I find the 15 slot design most pleasing.

The Coupe comes with a full set of Bundt 14" AND late model 5 spoke 16"
wheels as part of the "package"... so I'm presently "up to my armpits in
wheels".



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wrote:

> The polished ones look "pimpy."
>
> Wilton
>
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> Cc: "G Mann" <g2ma...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
>
>
> Her actions, by direct and indirect admission, violate secret and above
>> security clearance regulations. She seems to fail to believe she will be
>> held accountable at this time. That belief does not relieve her of being
>> held responsible, it only momentarily delays her ultimate punishment, what
>> ever that may be.
>>
>> Should a real leader take office of POTUS and appoint a real Attorney
>> General, her account will be settled in a way that should make an example
>> to others for a long time. I don't believe there is a statue of limitation
>> on treason, or fraud, or murder. It appears there was an active
>> participation in all three of those.
>>
>> Now... who was it that wanted a supply of "I'm ready for Hillary" bumper
>> sticker?
>>
>> Mercedes question:  I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot
>> Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which
>> should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration?  Or, keep both sets and
>> change them as my mood changes?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend.  I
>>> pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK)
>>> had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home
>>> classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it
>>> to
>>> unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house,
>>> cars, bank account, everything would be gone.  And yet here we have a
>>> person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without the
>>> transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out,
>>> admitting
>>> to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words).  It is just
>>> plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior.
>>> And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the
>>> hands
>>> of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior.
>>>
>>> I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with
>>> any political view.  It is just practical application of the law that
>>> applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to classified
>>> info.
>>> If some low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that
>>> person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now.  I
>>> can understand the politics involved here, but that woman should be
>>> sitting
>>> in a prison cell right now.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/30/15 11:16 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement
>>>> in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all
>>>> assets
>>>> would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held,
>>>> and
>>>> imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law.
>>>>
>>>> Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of
>>>> public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power
>>>> and trust.
>>>>
>>>> Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political
>>>> party affiliation, and only

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

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GMann Sez:

Of all the Mercedes wheels, I find the 15 slot design most pleasing.


I like the steel wheels (or better yet, the light alloy wheels like 
my 240D came with) and the hubcaps.  It can be a pain to find a 
replacement hubcap or repaint the centers, but they are very 
attractive on 123 and older.  Plus they make wonderful ice art when 
you drive in frizzle or freezing rain.


I also like the factory alloy wheels, but of them I like the 15 hole the best.

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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend.  I 
pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) 
had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home 
classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it 
to unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, 
house, cars, bank account, everything would be gone.  And yet here we 
have a person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without 
the transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out, 
admitting to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words).  It 
is just plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal 
behavior. And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen 
into the hands of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior.


I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do 
with any political view.  It is just practical application of the law 
that applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to 
classified info.  If some low-level staffer in the comms section had 
been doing this, that person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at 
Club Fed right now.  I can understand the politics involved here, but 
that woman should be sitting in a prison cell right now.


--R



On 8/30/15 11:16 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement
in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all assets
would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held, and
imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law.

Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of
public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power
and trust.

Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political
party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, logical
conclusion can be made that ample evidence of a long standing criminal
enterprise has been operated by them working in concert with others.

Politics be damned, holding the vessel of public office does not give free
pass to violate laws.

This video is now on youtube, it runs 1:33 and while long, covers some of
the back story of the Clintons. It has first party interviews [many] with
people who observed illegal activity or participated in illegal activity
with or at the direction of Clintons. If you watch it, draw your own
conclusions.

https://youtu.be/C8B43JOshC4

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Craig,

The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans
may be stealing the signs.  I have my doubts about that.

I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design!

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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the
signs because they don't like what they say.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I am still waiting for my No Bush sign from andrew.  That, along 
with No pillary or No Clinton signs, this sign, and Grant's I'm 
ready for pillary hangman sign should make a good business.




Craig,

The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that 
Republicans may be stealing the signs.  I have my doubts about that.


I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design!

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


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[MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

This one has made my day!

http://nypost.com/2015/08/30/hillary-for-prison-signs-keep-getting-stolen-in-the-hamptons/
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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:33:51 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 This one has made my day!
 
 http://nypost.com/2015/08/30/hillary-for-prison-signs-keep-getting-stolen-in-the-hamptons/

Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the
signs because they don't like what they say.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Craig,

The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans may 
be stealing the signs.  I have my doubts about that.

I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design!

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the
signs because they don't like what they say.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:42:28 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the
 signs because they don't like what they say.

He does say democrats at the beginning, but at the very end he mentions
republicans. He could solve that problem by having a bunch of signs made
and selling them.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

[G Mann via Mercedes]

If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement
in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all assets
would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held, and
imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law.

Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of
public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power
and trust.

Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political
party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, logical
conclusion can be made that ample evidence of a long standing criminal
enterprise has been operated by them working in concert with others.

Politics be damned, holding the vessel of public office does not give free
pass to violate laws.

This video is now on youtube, it runs 1:33 and while long, covers some of
the back story of the Clintons. It has first party interviews [many] with
people who observed illegal activity or participated in illegal activity
with or at the direction of Clintons. If you watch it, draw your own
conclusions.

https://youtu.be/C8B43JOshC4

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Craig,

 The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans
 may be stealing the signs.  I have my doubts about that.

 I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design!

 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300

 On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the
 signs because they don't like what they say.
 
 
 Craig

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