Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
Estate?  I thought you were one of us, not landed gentry.  I'll try to be
more respectful.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I bought this wireless vid cam to set up as a monitor on the estate.  I
 finally got it working on my local network, more or less.  The instructions
 were horrible but some web surfing found semi-answers from which my vast
 intellect was able to muddle through to getting something other than the
 semi-lame windows-based interface it came with to work, by trial and error
 on an address that various things liked.  (Using VLC on the mac, and in
 Firefox it actually spawns off a Quicktime window that will show the vid,
 sometimes, somewhat).

 I have not yet done the thing to get a static IP address for it (I did sign
 up to dyndns.com and it shows me my IP address 74.181.162.57 and a name
 for my acct that I picked, with a web address that is xxx.dyndns.org, but
 nothing that looks like an actual IP address?) to view over a remote
 browser.  I will have to wrestle with that sometime soon.

 I think when I put in my network 192.168.0.n address it is only seeing it
 over the local wireless connection.  Anyway, with a local network it should
 use as much bandwidth it needs to send a nice clear picture, right?  I have
 one stream set for 1mbps (30frames/sec 640x480), one for 256kbps
 (30frames/sec 320x240), , and another one it doesn't say but it is only 10
 frames/sec 640x480 so it is probably somewhere in the middle.  Anyway, the
 stream shows considerable lag in the picture on the screen showing what it
 is seeing, and a lot of motion artifacts that sometimes just break up
 totally and the stream is hosed.  The 256k stream seems the most stable but
 even it gets motion artifacts and breaks up.  The camera is only about 15ft
 from the router and it is getting a strong signal.

 So what should I tweak here, or is that just sorta the way it is?  I kinda
 expected full high-res living color, at least when connecting over my local
 network.  I did have it cabled into the router and it seemed a bit more
 stable.

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Yes it is a vast estate, vast landholdings with serfs and peasants.  I 
am the Squire and Lord and Baron.


--R

On 10/11/11 11:10 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Estate?  I thought you were one of us, not landed gentry.  I'll try to be
more respectful.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:


I bought this wireless vid cam to set up as a monitor on the estate.  I
finally got it working on my local network, more or less.  The instructions
were horrible but some web surfing found semi-answers from which my vast
intellect was able to muddle through to getting something other than the
semi-lame windows-based interface it came with to work, by trial and error
on an address that various things liked.  (Using VLC on the mac, and in
Firefox it actually spawns off a Quicktime window that will show the vid,
sometimes, somewhat).

I have not yet done the thing to get a static IP address for it (I did sign
up to dyndns.com and it shows me my IP address 74.181.162.57 and a name
for my acct that I picked, with a web address that is xxx.dyndns.org, but
nothing that looks like an actual IP address?) to view over a remote
browser.  I will have to wrestle with that sometime soon.

I think when I put in my network 192.168.0.n address it is only seeing it
over the local wireless connection.  Anyway, with a local network it should
use as much bandwidth it needs to send a nice clear picture, right?  I have
one stream set for 1mbps (30frames/sec 640x480), one for 256kbps
(30frames/sec 320x240), , and another one it doesn't say but it is only 10
frames/sec 640x480 so it is probably somewhere in the middle.  Anyway, the
stream shows considerable lag in the picture on the screen showing what it
is seeing, and a lot of motion artifacts that sometimes just break up
totally and the stream is hosed.  The 256k stream seems the most stable but
even it gets motion artifacts and breaks up.  The camera is only about 15ft
from the router and it is getting a strong signal.

So what should I tweak here, or is that just sorta the way it is?  I kinda
expected full high-res living color, at least when connecting over my local
network.  I did have it cabled into the router and it seemed a bit more
stable.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Who made you Squire? I didn't vote for you.

 Oh, Squire, eh? Very nice. And how'd you get that, eh? By exploiting the 
workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the 
economic and social differences in our society.

I'm being repressed!

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Yes it is a vast estate, vast landholdings with serfs and peasants.  I am the 
 Squire and Lord and Baron.
 
 --R
 
 On 10/11/11 11:10 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
 Estate?  I thought you were one of us, not landed gentry.  I'll try to be
 more respectful.
 
 On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rich Thomas
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:
 
 I bought this wireless vid cam to set up as a monitor on the estate.  I
 finally got it working on my local network, more or less.  The instructions
 were horrible but some web surfing found semi-answers from which my vast
 intellect was able to muddle through to getting something other than the
 semi-lame windows-based interface it came with to work, by trial and error
 on an address that various things liked.  (Using VLC on the mac, and in
 Firefox it actually spawns off a Quicktime window that will show the vid,
 sometimes, somewhat).
 
 I have not yet done the thing to get a static IP address for it (I did sign
 up to dyndns.com and it shows me my IP address 74.181.162.57 and a name
 for my acct that I picked, with a web address that is xxx.dyndns.org, but
 nothing that looks like an actual IP address?) to view over a remote
 browser.  I will have to wrestle with that sometime soon.
 
 I think when I put in my network 192.168.0.n address it is only seeing it
 over the local wireless connection.  Anyway, with a local network it should
 use as much bandwidth it needs to send a nice clear picture, right?  I have
 one stream set for 1mbps (30frames/sec 640x480), one for 256kbps
 (30frames/sec 320x240), , and another one it doesn't say but it is only 10
 frames/sec 640x480 so it is probably somewhere in the middle.  Anyway, the
 stream shows considerable lag in the picture on the screen showing what it
 is seeing, and a lot of motion artifacts that sometimes just break up
 totally and the stream is hosed.  The 256k stream seems the most stable but
 even it gets motion artifacts and breaks up.  The camera is only about 15ft
 from the router and it is getting a strong signal.
 
 So what should I tweak here, or is that just sorta the way it is?  I kinda
 expected full high-res living color, at least when connecting over my local
 network.  I did have it cabled into the router and it seemed a bit more
 stable.
 
 --R
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-11 Thread Rich Thomas

No, a watery tart gave it to me in a farcical aquatic ceremony.

--R

On 10/11/11 11:27 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Who made you Squire? I didn't vote for you.

  Oh, Squire, eh? Very nice. And how'd you get that, eh? By exploiting the 
workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the 
economic and social differences in our society.

I'm being repressed!

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 wrote:


Yes it is a vast estate, vast landholdings with serfs and peasants.  I am the 
Squire and Lord and Baron.

--R

On 10/11/11 11:10 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Estate?  I thought you were one of us, not landed gentry.  I'll try to be
more respectful.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net   wrote:


I bought this wireless vid cam to set up as a monitor on the estate.  I
finally got it working on my local network, more or less.  The instructions
were horrible but some web surfing found semi-answers from which my vast
intellect was able to muddle through to getting something other than the
semi-lame windows-based interface it came with to work, by trial and error
on an address that various things liked.  (Using VLC on the mac, and in
Firefox it actually spawns off a Quicktime window that will show the vid,
sometimes, somewhat).

I have not yet done the thing to get a static IP address for it (I did sign
up to dyndns.com and it shows me my IP address 74.181.162.57 and a name
for my acct that I picked, with a web address that is xxx.dyndns.org, but
nothing that looks like an actual IP address?) to view over a remote
browser.  I will have to wrestle with that sometime soon.

I think when I put in my network 192.168.0.n address it is only seeing it
over the local wireless connection.  Anyway, with a local network it should
use as much bandwidth it needs to send a nice clear picture, right?  I have
one stream set for 1mbps (30frames/sec 640x480), one for 256kbps
(30frames/sec 320x240), , and another one it doesn't say but it is only 10
frames/sec 640x480 so it is probably somewhere in the middle.  Anyway, the
stream shows considerable lag in the picture on the screen showing what it
is seeing, and a lot of motion artifacts that sometimes just break up
totally and the stream is hosed.  The 256k stream seems the most stable but
even it gets motion artifacts and breaks up.  The camera is only about 15ft
from the router and it is getting a strong signal.

So what should I tweak here, or is that just sorta the way it is?  I kinda
expected full high-res living color, at least when connecting over my local
network.  I did have it cabled into the router and it seemed a bit more
stable.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-11 Thread Max
Soon to be Fort Thomas.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD

andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

Estate? I thought you were one of us, not landed gentry. I'll try to be
more respectful.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I bought this wireless vid cam to set up as a monitor on the estate. I
 finally got it working on my local network, more or less. The instructions
 were horrible but some web surfing found semi-answers from which my vast
 intellect was able to muddle through to getting something other than the
 semi-lame windows-based interface it came with to work, by trial and error
 on an address that various things liked. (Using VLC on the mac, and in
 Firefox it actually spawns off a Quicktime window that will show the vid,
 sometimes, somewhat).

 I have not yet done the thing to get a static IP address for it (I did sign
 up to dyndns.com and it shows me my IP address 74.181.162.57 and a name
 for my acct that I picked, with a web address that is xxx.dyndns.org, but
 nothing that looks like an actual IP address?) to view over a remote
 browser. I will have to wrestle with that sometime soon.

 I think when I put in my network 192.168.0.n address it is only seeing it
 over the local wireless connection. Anyway, with a local network it should
 use as much bandwidth it needs to send a nice clear picture, right? I have
 one stream set for 1mbps (30frames/sec 640x480), one for 256kbps
 (30frames/sec 320x240), , and another one it doesn't say but it is only 10
 frames/sec 640x480 so it is probably somewhere in the middle. Anyway, the
 stream shows considerable lag in the picture on the screen showing what it
 is seeing, and a lot of motion artifacts that sometimes just break up
 totally and the stream is hosed. The 256k stream seems the most stable but
 even it gets motion artifacts and breaks up. The camera is only about 15ft
 from the router and it is getting a strong signal.

 So what should I tweak here, or is that just sorta the way it is? I kinda
 expected full high-res living color, at least when connecting over my local
 network. I did have it cabled into the router and it seemed a bit more
 stable.

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-11 Thread WILTON
I can see him now:  'Sitting tall on his white horse, wearing his wide brim 
planter's hat, checking his rice crop and slapping his short riding crop 
against his leg for emPHAsis.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam



Estate?  I thought you were one of us, not landed gentry.  I'll try to be
more respectful.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


I bought this wireless vid cam to set up as a monitor on the estate.  I
finally got it working on my local network, more or less.  The 
instructions

were horrible but some web surfing found semi-answers from which my vast
intellect was able to muddle through to getting something other than the
semi-lame windows-based interface it came with to work, by trial and 
error

on an address that various things liked.  (Using VLC on the mac, and in
Firefox it actually spawns off a Quicktime window that will show the vid,
sometimes, somewhat).

I have not yet done the thing to get a static IP address for it (I did 
sign

up to dyndns.com and it shows me my IP address 74.181.162.57 and a name
for my acct that I picked, with a web address that is xxx.dyndns.org, but
nothing that looks like an actual IP address?) to view over a remote
browser.  I will have to wrestle with that sometime soon.

I think when I put in my network 192.168.0.n address it is only seeing 
it
over the local wireless connection.  Anyway, with a local network it 
should
use as much bandwidth it needs to send a nice clear picture, right?  I 
have

one stream set for 1mbps (30frames/sec 640x480), one for 256kbps
(30frames/sec 320x240), , and another one it doesn't say but it is only 
10
frames/sec 640x480 so it is probably somewhere in the middle.  Anyway, 
the
stream shows considerable lag in the picture on the screen showing what 
it

is seeing, and a lot of motion artifacts that sometimes just break up
totally and the stream is hosed.  The 256k stream seems the most stable 
but
even it gets motion artifacts and breaks up.  The camera is only about 
15ft

from the router and it is getting a strong signal.

So what should I tweak here, or is that just sorta the way it is?  I 
kinda
expected full high-res living color, at least when connecting over my 
local

network.  I did have it cabled into the router and it seemed a bit more
stable.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-11 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:10 AM, andrew strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Estate?  I thought you were one of us, not landed gentry.  I'll try to be
 more respectful.

Didn't you know?  He's Rich.

-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-11 Thread Tim C
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 I bought this wireless vid cam to set up as a monitor on the estate.  I

Brand?

 I think when I put in my network 192.168.0.n address it is only seeing it
 over the local wireless connection.  Anyway, with a local network it should

Yes, you are thinking correctly.

 use as much bandwidth it needs to send a nice clear picture, right?  I have

Yes, but:
- Wireless and multicast do not mix well.  If you set it up for
unicast that would be better.
   * If you can't it -should- work, but the upstream rate will be
limited by the slowest connection in the network.
   * You will also have problems watching it remotely.
- If it's 11g, you have an optimistic total bandwidth of about 24 Mbps
(bits not bytes).
- Since I think you are viewing on your laptop you only get half, a
little more if you are using 11n on the laptop.
- If you have any .11b equipment lying around you should turn it off,
that will really kill you.

 stream shows considerable lag in the picture on the screen showing what it
 is seeing, and a lot of motion artifacts that sometimes just break up
 totally and the stream is hosed.  The 256k stream seems the most stable but
 even it gets motion artifacts and breaks up.  The camera is only about 15ft
 from the router and it is getting a strong signal.

VLC should be able to give you detailed statistics about what is
happening - if it's the source, there's nothing you can do,  but it
will know if there are drops or sequence errors you can tweak your
AP/router.

 So what should I tweak here, or is that just sorta the way it is?  I kinda
 expected full high-res living color, at least when connecting over my local
 network.  I did have it cabled into the router and it seemed a bit more
 stable.

Cabled = good tells you the source is probably okay, try it with both
ends cabled if you can for the target result.  I would think you
should have a decent view, 640x480 is an okay webcam.  I'm sure the
locals can tell you how the optics are bad. :)

Best,
-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-11 Thread Rich Thomas

This one  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16881102028


 Trendnet TV-IP512WN

It;s funny, this morning the power went out, so when it got working 
again and everything fired up, the router had reassigned it to 
192.168.0.9, and I could see it as a wireless device on the network on 
the router page, changed the address I had for VLC and it fired right 
up.  Then later I am looking at the router page for network details, and 
it is not listing the cam as being on the network, though it is 
streaming to VLC.  Strange.


I will keep twiddling with it as I have time.  I do not have an N 
wireless router.  I have another wireless Linksys router hooked up the 
DSL wireless modem/router, the camera would not see the DSL wireless 
router but it sees the Linksys.  I am not sure why I have both hooked 
up, I did it as a hack back some time ago, and just left it.  Maybe the 
Linksys is confusing things.  I guess I should disconnect it and see 
what happens.


--R



On 10/11/11 4:55 PM, Tim C wrote:

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

I bought this wireless vid cam to set up as a monitor on the estate.  I

Brand?


I think when I put in my network 192.168.0.n address it is only seeing it
over the local wireless connection.  Anyway, with a local network it should

Yes, you are thinking correctly.


use as much bandwidth it needs to send a nice clear picture, right?  I have

Yes, but:
- Wireless and multicast do not mix well.  If you set it up for
unicast that would be better.
* If you can't it -should- work, but the upstream rate will be
limited by the slowest connection in the network.
* You will also have problems watching it remotely.
- If it's 11g, you have an optimistic total bandwidth of about 24 Mbps
(bits not bytes).
- Since I think you are viewing on your laptop you only get half, a
little more if you are using 11n on the laptop.
- If you have any .11b equipment lying around you should turn it off,
that will really kill you.


stream shows considerable lag in the picture on the screen showing what it
is seeing, and a lot of motion artifacts that sometimes just break up
totally and the stream is hosed.  The 256k stream seems the most stable but
even it gets motion artifacts and breaks up.  The camera is only about 15ft
from the router and it is getting a strong signal.

VLC should be able to give you detailed statistics about what is
happening - if it's the source, there's nothing you can do,  but it
will know if there are drops or sequence errors you can tweak your
AP/router.


So what should I tweak here, or is that just sorta the way it is?  I kinda
expected full high-res living color, at least when connecting over my local
network.  I did have it cabled into the router and it seemed a bit more
stable.

Cabled =  good tells you the source is probably okay, try it with both
ends cabled if you can for the target result.  I would think you
should have a decent view, 640x480 is an okay webcam.  I'm sure the
locals can tell you how the optics are bad. :)

Best,
-Tim

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[MBZ] OT wireless vid cam

2011-10-10 Thread Rich Thomas
I bought this wireless vid cam to set up as a monitor on the estate.  I 
finally got it working on my local network, more or less.  The 
instructions were horrible but some web surfing found semi-answers from 
which my vast intellect was able to muddle through to getting something 
other than the semi-lame windows-based interface it came with to work, 
by trial and error on an address that various things liked.  (Using VLC 
on the mac, and in Firefox it actually spawns off a Quicktime window 
that will show the vid, sometimes, somewhat).


I have not yet done the thing to get a static IP address for it (I did 
sign up to dyndns.com and it shows me my IP address 74.181.162.57 and a 
name for my acct that I picked, with a web address that is 
xxx.dyndns.org, but nothing that looks like an actual IP address?) to 
view over a remote browser.  I will have to wrestle with that sometime soon.


I think when I put in my network 192.168.0.n address it is only seeing 
it over the local wireless connection.  Anyway, with a local network it 
should use as much bandwidth it needs to send a nice clear picture, 
right?  I have one stream set for 1mbps (30frames/sec 640x480), one for 
256kbps (30frames/sec 320x240), , and another one it doesn't say but it 
is only 10 frames/sec 640x480 so it is probably somewhere in the 
middle.  Anyway, the stream shows considerable lag in the picture on the 
screen showing what it is seeing, and a lot of motion artifacts that 
sometimes just break up totally and the stream is hosed.  The 256k 
stream seems the most stable but even it gets motion artifacts and 
breaks up.  The camera is only about 15ft from the router and it is 
getting a strong signal.


So what should I tweak here, or is that just sorta the way it is?  I 
kinda expected full high-res living color, at least when connecting over 
my local network.  I did have it cabled into the router and it seemed a 
bit more stable.


--R

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