Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:32:42 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Well, according to Chevron: > > Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN > ® > Technology. ISOSYN Technology is a combination of > premium base oils and high performance additives with >

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

You are talking about the 15w40, it is not synthetic. The full synthetic is 5w40. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2016, at 2:28 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:32:42 -0500 > Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Well, according to Chevron: Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN ® Technology. ISOSYN Technology is a combination of premium base oils and high performance additives with Chevron's formulating expertise that "Rivals Synthetic Performance" and provides su perb diesel engine parts

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Huh? If you watch the sales you should be able to get M1 for between $27 and $30 a gallon. Worst would be buying it in $10 quarts but thats still only $40 a gallon.The cheap stuff has to be almost free to get a difference of $30 per oil change and if its that cheap its got to be crap. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

From: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread The less expensive oil comes to $0.

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

ect: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread That’s why I asked.  I saw some discussions about this in another forum and was wondering, since I know there are a number of diesel folks that swear by Delo.  I thought it was regular dino oil, not synthetic. confused Dan > On F

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Hold on. Delo LE 5w-40 IS synthetic. Max getting confused with the facts again - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s why I asked. I saw some discussions about this in another forum > and was

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a synthetic or not? I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the name that would give it away as such. Based on the price I see it selling for, I’m assuming it’s not, too. Dan ___

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

to turn around and put conventional back in... -Curt From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Well, according to Chevron: Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN The prefix iso- means "equal to". So, the marketeers are telling you that it's equal to synthetic. What more could you want? Delo has always been a very good conventional oil. I use it in everything, diesel or not,

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a synthetic or not? Regular old Delo? It's not. I miss the $6/gallon days when I bought 6-gallon cases at Costco. What with the 3-gallon truck, and all those 2-gallon MB's... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

It is full synthetic and is $19.99 a gallon at Wally World Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a > synthetic or not? I always wondered, and

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

That’s why I asked. I saw some discussions about this in another forum and was wondering, since I know there are a number of diesel folks that swear by Delo. I thought it was regular dino oil, not synthetic. confused Dan > On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

; Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread Hold on.  Delo LE 5w-40 IS synthetic. Max getting confused with the facts again - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercede

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Back to the original question, if one desires to use an MB-approved oil (or any other fluid/grease/additive), here's the definitive source (MB): http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/index.php?language_id=1 Rather clunky, you'll need to know exactly which sheet to look in, but the info is there.

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:56:51 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > It is full synthetic and is $19.99 a gallon at Wally World > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > So can

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:56:51 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It is

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

esday, February 10, 2016 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a synthetic or not?  I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the name that would give it away as such.  Based on the pric

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Dangit!ThatsthesecondtimeI'vedonethatinasmanyweeks...-Curt From: Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Craig <diese...@pisquared.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simp

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:25:45 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspxsuggests the > answer is no, the synthetics all say synthetic... -Curt You ran the word suggests into the end of the URL. It should be

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

complain on-list, as has happened before. Craig > From: Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Craig <diese...@pisquared.net> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 2:36 PM > Subject: Re: [

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

> On February 9, 2016 at 10:05 PM clay via Mercedes > wrote: > > > It gets really expensive to run the M1 for such low miles. It depends. Twice a year I buy two jugs for about $25-27 each, and get a $10-12 rebate on each one. That's not much money for 5 gallons a

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

in the BEW VWs, hotly contested... >> -Curt >> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> >> Sent: Monday, February 8,

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Yabbut Bob's is a 210 or 211, OM 606. those take differ'nt oil than the old engines. I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels. I am running it through Frosch for the past three years in an attempt to clear out 40 years of crud in the engine. Just in case. Once it flows out clean

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

it. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread That m1 15w50 is not

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

uesday, February 9, 2016 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread I get it at Walmart Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > They pulled the CF certification so

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

was >> critical... >> -Curt >> >> From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 5:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

On 09/02/2016 4:20 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels. I am running it through Frosch for the past three years in an attempt to clear out 40 years of crud in the engine. Just in case. Once it flows out clean during the annual change, I figure I

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

; > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread > > I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels. I am running it

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

9 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread On 09/02/2016 5:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > They pulled the CF certification some time ago because it "was obsolete" > which I think is BS. I used it even after they'd pulled the certific

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

gt; To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread > > That m1 15w50 is not diesel rated is it? The Delo synthetic is as g

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

It is coming out black, but getting lighter with each change. First change resulted in near immediate change to diesel black on the stick after ten miles. Now it remains amber for far longer. Since I am only getting 2500 miles per annum, I make sure if she goes out, she goes OUT! for a long

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread The labeling has changed look ov

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread It is coming out black, but getting lighter with each cha

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

So is the Delo synthetic best for engines like the OM603, or “regular” Delo 400 LE 15W-40? Aren’t there some issues with the proper amount or lack of zinc in some of the synthetics? Dan > On Feb 9, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have used

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and dies

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

I used the M1 stuff in the OM606 in the E300D. It was the most current recommended for the car in 2013. I had a few cases left on the shelf when I had to sell the car. Waste not, want not. clay On Feb 9, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Yabbut Bob's is a 210 or 211, OM

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

aleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> > >> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 6:36 PM > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Ques

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread On 09/02/2016 4:20 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > I like M1 15-50

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

On 09/02/2016 5:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: They pulled the CF certification some time ago because it "was obsolete" which I think is BS. I used it even after they'd pulled the certification and the analysis came back the same as it did before. Have you had an analysis pulled on

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

I am thinking the stuff will stick to the metal bits longer than the dino oil does. SL does not get out much, so having that initial lubrication is a must at start up. The car had not been run much between 2002 and when I got her in 2012. Record showed she had service prior to that, but no

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

So is the Delo synthetic best for engines like the OM603, or "regular" Delo 400 LE 15W-40? Aren't there some issues with the proper amount or lack of zinc in some of the synthetics? Dan We need to contact Larry our oil expert. He was having trouble with his comcast email. I don't think

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

sketchy side... > -Curt > > From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question..

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:43 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread > > The labeling has changed look over the past decade. It is being marketed as > light truck diesel oil. There should be ASTM stamp w

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

I think the zinc is a bigger issue for the older cars that used to run on leaded, or diesels. The newer stuff probably does not need that formulation. I seem to recall Marshall saying that the OM603 was not dependent on the older formulations and the current (2004 era) oils were just fine. I

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

l through a 10,000 mile run. > The previous owner was kinda on the sketchy side... > -Curt > >      From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

uesday, February 9, 2016 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread >So is the Delo synthetic best for engines like the OM603, or >"regular" Delo 400 LE 15W-40? > >Aren't there some issues with the proper amount or lack of zinc in >some of t

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

winter 5w40 was critical... > -Curt > > From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Que

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

> Randy wrote: > > I doubt that synthetic oil is any better most of the time. Not true. Especially a group IV synthetic. The point of the synthetic is the lack "junk". All the oil molecules are the chosen ones - not just a majority like a typical dino oil. > If you want to run higher miles

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread So is the Delo synthetic best for engines like the OM603, or “regular” Delo 400 LE 15W-40? Aren’t there some issues with the proper amount or lack of zinc in some of the synthetics? Dan > On Feb 9, 2016, at 8:12

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

on List > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread > > I have not done any analysis since there is so little use on the car, and I > want to see how much hope and change I get with each

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

What does any of this have to do with the Continuing Crisis (aka politics)? Or Guns? Hard to believe... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

I thought it'd use the M1 0w-40 European flavor? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 8, 2016 6:36:12 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be M1 >turbo diesel truck or

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

ussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> > Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 9:41 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread > > It's a diesel, the 0w40 is the wrong oil. > > Sent from my iPhone > >

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

It's a diesel, the 0w40 is the wrong oil. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 8, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I thought it'd use the M1 0w-40 European flavor? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > >> On February 8, 2016 6:36:12

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

at what temp. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an O

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be M1 turbo diesel truck or Chevron Delo 400le which is about $8 cheaper than M1 and what I use. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: I have bought engine

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

It's 5w40 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be M1 turbo >> diesel truck or Chevron Delo 400le which is about $8 cheaper than M1 and >> what I use. >> >>

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

I was fairly certain my hell here required 5w40. It was 84 today already. Ugh. Bob R On Feb 8, 2016 5:35 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It's 5w40 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 8, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

in the BEW VWs, hotly contested... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question

[MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

I have bought engine oil for only three diesel engines: OM615, OM616, and OM617. Now I have an OM606. What is the correct engine oil? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be M1 turbo diesel truck or Chevron Delo 400le which is about $8 cheaper than M1 and what I use. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 8, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have bought

Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be M1 turbo diesel truck or Chevron Delo 400le which is about $8 cheaper than M1 and what I u