Re: [MBZ] Pan Plug

2006-02-17 Thread redghost
That is correct.  The old pan has the hex plug, so the opening is 
large, and with damage Huge.  I think Marshall mentioned that the pans 
come with a variety of plug holes in the 12 and 14 size.  I got a pan 
with a 12 hole, but a 14 plug.  Next one may end up a 14 pan, so might 
get a 12 plug


On Thursday, February 16, 2006, at 03:18 PM, R A Bennell wrote:

Wasn't that the reason why you needed a new pan in the first place? (a 
large

hole?)

Randy B

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  Will hold onto the large one in case I get a pan with a large hole.



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Re: [MBZ] pan plug

2006-02-16 Thread redghost
Just confused why I am not able to make the bolt fit.  I guess I can 
find one at NAPA (plug) since I would like to get her running sooner 
rather than letting the present cold spell stop her and freeze her guts.


If I had taken lil' sis off your hands, then what would you be doing?  
What kind of sick person would I be to deprive you of a chance to play 
doctor?  Have you been able to turn the crank to see the cams moving 
the valves?  You did say it was getting fuel from the IP.  Possible 
gummed up injectors?  Glow does not glow at all, or just crank it and 
nothing happens?


On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 06:00 PM, kevin kraly wrote:

See?  You shoulda bought my 220 with a good pan and plenty of spare 
parts to

keep Gumpy going for a while!

Actually, I've begun diagnosing the no start problem with this 
new-to-me
220D.  The VC is off now so I'll be able to tell if the valves are 
opening

and closing as they should.

Kevin in HIllsboro Oregon
1973 220D, Gump's medically challenged younger sister


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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] Pan Plug

2006-02-16 Thread redghost
yep, that huge drain plug is what ripped out of Gump.  Must have been 
some goon in SF pulled the wrong size plug for the package that Rusty 
had sent out.  I know it was not a mistake on his end.


On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 08:05 PM, OK Don wrote:


i had to replace a pan in my 220D - years ago, and I seem to remember
that the original pan had the large drain bolt with the hex key, and
the new one had the smaller bolt -- don't remember how  I got the new
bolt though --
I replaced the original pan because someone had cross threaded the
large bolt (dont' ask me how) ---

On 2/15/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Fed Ex just left me a wonderful package.  Inside were all the little
bits Rusty sent so that Gump could be back on the road.  I think I 
will

spend the frozen day tomorrow installing the pan.  I did have one
problem.  For some reason I am not able to get the drain plug that 
came
with the pan installed.  Has there been an upgrade to either the pan 
or

the bolt in the past such that maybe the old bolts are too large for
the new pans, or the new pans are too tight for old model bolts.  This
bolt just seems too large to fit the tiny hole, and IIRC the original
pan had a much larger plug that was hex keyed.

Part number on the bolt is 1 111-997-03-30.  Did I order the wrong
thing?




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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] pan plug

2006-02-16 Thread redghost
So it could just be a parts pull issue and there is a chance I get 
another pan and this bolt will fit.  The way I drive, that might just 
happen


On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 08:20 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


OK Don wrote:

i had to replace a pan in my 220D - years ago, and I seem to remember
that the original pan had the large drain bolt with the hex key, and
the new one had the smaller bolt -- don't remember how  I got the new
bolt though --
I replaced the original pan because someone had cross threaded the
large bolt (dont' ask me how) ---


More than a few Mercedes engines came with DIFFERENT sized drain plugs
(M-14 or M-12) and the only way to tell is look and measure them. I've
had 601 engines with both sized plugs, but I believe that OM61x engines
all have M-12 plugs.

Marshall
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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] Pan Plug

2006-02-16 Thread redghost
went to FAPS and picked up a 12 1.25 plug for the pan.  Took the pan 
with me.   That fit, so the one that came was 14.  Will hold onto the 
large one in case I get a pan with a large hole.


On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 08:46 PM, redghost wrote:


yep, that huge drain plug is what ripped out of Gump.  Must have been
some goon in SF pulled the wrong size plug for the package that Rusty
had sent out.  I know it was not a mistake on his end.





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Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] Pan Plug

2006-02-16 Thread R A Bennell
Wasn't that the reason why you needed a new pan in the first place? (a large
hole?)

Randy B

-Original Message-
  Will hold onto the large one in case I get a pan with a large hole.