That’s why their called breaks
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> I presume this applies to the X164 and possibly others of the same vintage.
>
> I’m a religious user of my parking brake, no matter where I park. Maybe it’s
> from my
I presume this applies to the X164 and possibly others of the same vintage.
I’m a religious user of my parking brake, no matter where I park. Maybe it’s
from my long ago days or upbringing from driving a stick, but I always use it.
Went to release my parking brake on the 2008 ML550 the other
On 2021-11-29 14:37, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Now that the 2 post is up any going, is there any reason why I
couldn’t leave a car on the lift and park under it? I see people
online saying it’s fine and others say not to do it. I personally
don’t see a reason why it would be a problem.
Now that the 2 post is up any going, is there any reason why I couldn’t leave a
car on the lift and park under it? I see people online saying it’s fine and
others say not to do it. I personally don’t see a reason why it would be a
problem.
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Pagids from Q long ago.
May not be OE quality, as the springs were a bit off compared to those
removed. I had the same issue on the other side, but was able to massage it.
I can't get this side to massage.
I may just yank the offending side and not mess with it until I get a shoppe to
The original parking brake set up on the w115 300D had failed and I had the set
I was going to use on Gump available. #1 boy and I jacked up the car and got
them on. The problem now is that the driver side rotor does not fit because
the shoes are off center and the bottom is sticking out. I
If the part numbers are correct, and the parts aren't URO or some other
chinese junk, then try assembling them in a different manner (swap shoes
around? inside out?) Last resort: Get a bigger hammer...
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Max
Charleston SC
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:50 PM, clay via Mercedes
Dan Penoff wrote:
Sounds like relamping a headlight on the wife's 2005 Mazda 6s. You have to move so
much stuff flat rate is 1.0 hours for RR.
A friend of mine complained that the mechanic had to remove the bumper plastic
to replace a bulb in his Jetta, 2003 IIRC. I didn't know if VW
On the wife's Mazda 6 there's just so much crap in the way you have to remove
some of it to get to the back of the headlight assembly.
First time it happened she was still in Indianapolis and I was down here. I
told her to drive over at our indie and he would swap it out in a couple of
On the wife's Mazda 6 there's just so much crap in the way you have to
remove some of it to get to the back of the headlight assembly.
Compare to, say, the 123 w/euro lights. You don't even need tools.
-- Jim
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Dan Penoff wrote:
Sounds like relamping a headlight on the wife's 2005 Mazda 6s
How do I get to and replace the parking lamp bulb in my '05 e320?
It looks buried in there.
Bob R
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Start with a snow shovel?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
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How do I get to and replace
Not to be mean, Fred, but it's sunny and 65 right now. Running errands with
the top down on the CLK. No snow shovel needed.
Bob R.
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Not to be mean, Fred, but it's sunny and 65 right now. Running errands with
the top down on the CLK. No snow shovel needed.
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On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 11:23:23 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
How do I get to and replace the parking lamp bulb in my '05 e320?
It looks buried in there.
Fred's joking aside, it's either accessed from the inside or the outside.
If there are no screws on the outside, it's accessed
The oval light in between the grill and the headlight. You can't get to it
from the front outside and it doesn't look like you can get to it from the
top under the hood . Lots of stuff in the way.
Bob R
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On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 11:23:23
Hmm, don't know for sure, but I'd bet you can get to it after you
remove the back cover from the headlight assembly. This is how you
access the fog lamp in the W124 which is in a similar spot.
Peter
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Sounds like relamping a headlight on the wife's 2005 Mazda 6s. You have to move
so much stuff flat rate is 1.0 hours for RR.
Dan
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On Jan 4, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
The oval light in between the grill and the headlight. You can't get to it
You can get to them from behind. Wicked tight fit for anyone with normal
sized hands. The bulbs are very wee.
Bob R
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It may tell you how to in the owners manual, pretty sure that the head
and fog lights are one assembly.
You may have to give the little kid next door some candy to put his/her
hand in there, if you have man sized paws.
Actually I seem to remember reading somewhere that it is an offence in
If you live uptown Manhattan alternate side of hte the street parking
regulations allow you to park for free in perpetuity, provided you can
move and then sit in your vehicle and wait for 11 AM every other day.
It's quite the Gotham spectacle,
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:07 PM, relng...@aol.com
Its worth noting in the Eastern metro areas it is completely possible
to
live without a car or even a driver's license. In Manhattan it can cost
at
least $500/month to garage your car if and car insurance is also very
high,
leaving many no to have cars, and those that do to park
Anyone have a parking brake release knob or parts car with one available? For
my W116 300SD, though I'm guessing other chassis may also fit. The knob broke
off, plastic shattered. Looks like it's already been glued together once
before. Just checking before I order a new one from Rusty.
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Subject: [MBZ] parking brake release knob
Anyone have a parking brake release knob or parts car with one available?
For my W116 300SD, though I'm guessing other chassis may also fit. The
knob broke off, plastic shattered. Looks like it's already
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Subject: [MBZ] parking brake release knob
Anyone have
On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:03 PM, Dimitri Seretakis
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
The parking brake on my 82 240D seems to want to depress itself. I
pull the brake release and the brake releases but then the pedal pulls
itself down partially engaging the brake again. With wear I would
The parking brake on my 82 240D seems to want to depress itself. I pull the
brake release and the brake releases but then the pedal pulls itself down
partially engaging the brake again. With wear I would expect the opposite
problem as the shoes wear and the cable stretches. I looked under the
Owners of diesel cars face higher charges for annual parking permits in
major cities amid growing concern over their effect on air quality.
The most expensive parking permits will cost £176 and will apply to cars
such as a three-litre diesel Range Rover
Councils have begun to raise the cost
No good deed goes unpunished by the forces of socialism. Next thing
will be fuel tax offset fees for hybrids and electrics, because they
are not getting the usurious fuel taxes from petrol/diesel vehicles. It
never ends -- gotta pay for the modern social state somehow, and limit
freedoms of
Rich Thomas wrote:
No good deed goes unpunished by the forces of socialism. Next thing
will be fuel tax offset fees for hybrids and electrics, because they
are not getting the usurious fuel taxes from petrol/diesel vehicles. It
never ends -- gotta pay for the modern social state somehow, and
Has anyone noticed that Progressive now offers lower rates for people who
install a data logger (SnapShot) device in their vehicles?
Dan
--- On Sat, 3/26/11, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking permit surcharge to force diesel
LWB250 wrote:
Has anyone noticed that Progressive now offers lower rates for people who
install a data logger (SnapShot) device in their vehicles?
And the DOT would like to do it to Mexican truckers, but NAFTA prohibits them
from charging the truckers for the devices unless they also charge
:
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking permit surcharge to force diesel cars off the roads
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Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 1:07 PM
LWB250 wrote:
Has anyone noticed that Progressive now offers lower
rates for people
I would not trust progressive with my garden hoe, much less my insurance.
Since I saw the Progressive data logger, I have done a little
research. Based on what I have read so far, there haven't been a lot
of takers.
Seems that they start you out with a certain discount, and can then
alter
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes:
And the DOT would like to do it to Mexican truckers, but NAFTA
prohibits them from charging the truckers for the devices unless they
also charge USA truckers for them.
So the choice is:
1. Give free data loggers to truckers from Mexico so you can make
I think most company-owned trucks have GPS units that track the thing,
log data, and report on it. Independents, probably not. Truckers don't
like them for obvious reasons. A coupla years ago I had an incident
bike v. ATT van, I called up the local office, got hold of the guy who
ran the
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes:
Progressive is a progressive company owned by a progressive who is a
big-time contributor to progressives and progressive causes. If you
are not a progressive, that should be a clue as to what the data
logger thing is about. If you
The first thought that came to mind when I heard about the Progressive
Snapshot device was It sure wouldn't be hard for them to use this data
against us. At the time, my Mom said But it's your choice whether or not
to put it in your car. This is true right now, but for how long?
Kevin in
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Till the software goes belly up.
Walt, who doesn't care for robopark...
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:50:28 EDT relng...@aol.com wrote:
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Interesting concept. I recall an above-ground version of that in Los
Angeles, CA, in the 1950s. It was totally manually run and had only one
row of cars.
I can't imagine how
I seem to remember a robo-park garage that ended up getting shut down for a
while with cars inside. Something to do with a software license expiring or
whatnot.
Anyone else remember that story?
Walt
On Jul 3, 2010 11:48 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010
http://www.wired.com/cars/coolwheels/news/2006/08/71554
Found it!
Walt
On Jul 3, 2010 12:22 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:
I seem to remember a robo-park garage that ended up getting shut down for a
while with cars inside. Something to do with a software license expiring or
So what does that thing cost to build, operate? No gummint subsidies in
there I'm sure.
--R
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2 words: Computer Virus.
Other than that, that is slick as snot. Put would an MB even fit? My
Ram 50 might just barely...
Walt
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
So what does that thing cost to build, operate? No gummint subsidies in
there
Looked like about 6 of headroom in the slot the Benz was in, not sure a
big ass merkin pickemup would even get in the door.
--R
On 7/1/2010 10:09 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
2 words: Computer Virus.
Other than that, that is slick as snot. Put would an MB even fit? My
Ram 50 might just barely...
Was more more the length issue, I know a Caddy fleetwood would never fit...
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Looked like about 6 of headroom in the slot the Benz was in, not sure a big
ass merkin pickemup would even get in the door.
--R
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Hey, all -
Just recently my parking brake (in my 1976 300d w115) stopped indicating
it's on. I know the bulb is good (because the car's had a floating ground
since the day I got it, while I'm starting up and the battery light is lit,
the brake light lights faintly... and still does), so that
Tuesday when I left for work my wife called to tell me her cell phone was in my
190D. I went back and left the car running while I ran inside. When I got back
on the road the parking brake lever wouldn't go all the way down and the light
was on...
Yesterday while putting the console back
Sounds like the use it or loose it syndrome. Use the parking brake
every time you park the car ---
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tuesday when I left for work my wife called to tell me her cell phone was in
my 190D. I went back and left the car running
No mate *shakes head* especially not the foot ones, the wife forgets
Of course I bet she won't on the 240D, she'll call me and tell me the car is
broken
-Curt
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] *$%#*! parking brake
Hey all,
The parking brake cables are stuck on my 240D. I'd guess its the rear ones but
I'm not sure how to tell. I'm also not sure how the cables work. Right now I'm
planning to farm that job out to my Indy, he's got a lift, I'm sure that'll
help.
Ideas?
Thanks
-Curt
I usually get under the car and start yanking on them to find the one
that doesn't move.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey all,
The parking brake cables are stuck on my 240D. I'd guess its the rear ones
but I'm not sure how to tell. I'm also not sure
:
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Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 9:10 PM
I usually get under the car and start yanking on them to find the one
that doesn't move.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:52
The parking brake cables are stuck on my 240D. I'd guess its the rear
ones but I'm not sure how to tell. I'm also not sure how the cables
work.
You pull on them to see which one (if any) moves and retracts.
The pedal pulls on one cable that in turn pulls on a yoke in
the middle of the two
leads to some interesting moments when
friends drive my cars and park in neutral.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:08:35 -0700
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and I NEVER use the parking brake, or almost never anyway...
I decided to use it on a big hill and the stinking thing stuck on...
I, raised on tractors and manual transmissions in a generally flat
place, also rarely use them. The trick is to use the parking brakes
often enough to keep them
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and I NEVER use the parking brake, or almost never anyway...
I decided to use it on a big hill and the stinking thing stuck on...
I, raised on tractors and manual transmissions in a generally flat
place, also rarely
, 2008 9:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking Prawl and Parking Brake 190D
My question is: Is it really harmful to let the car come to rest
against the
transmission so to speak?
IMHO, it's only a problem if it's hard to get _out_ of park.
If it is, change your habits
One of my OCD issues regarding our vehicles is my wanting to protect the
transmission by applying the parking brake before shifting to Park and thus
not have the vehicle weight supported by the transmission.
Of course I realize that this in turn places wear and tear on the parking
brake assy.
My
The hand brake in the 201(in RHD trim it is still in the same position
as the LHD ones) is a bit of a pain when compared to the 123 (in RHD
mode they have it on the dash) or the 124 which is foot operated.
However adjustment is pretty easy.
The auto box lock mechanism is pretty sturdy and won't
Zoltan Finks wrote:
My question is: Is it really harmful to let the car come to rest against the
transmission so to speak?
I get the idea it isn't too friendly to the mechanism when you park
on a hill and have to yank the lever out of park. What's hard on
the parking brake is not using it and
I've insisted for many years that my drivers (wife, children,
grandchildren, etc.) hold the foot brake and firmly engage the parking brake
before allowing the vehicle to roll against the parking prawl on a slope -
i. e., DON'T LET IT ROLL AGAINST THE PARKING PRAWL. If the parking prawl is
used to
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've insisted for many years that my drivers (wife, children,
grandchildren, etc.) hold the foot brake and firmly engage the parking brake
before allowing the vehicle to roll against the parking prawl on a slope -
i.
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On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've insisted for many years that my drivers (wife, children,
grandchildren, etc.) hold the foot brake and firmly engage the parking
Or if you're a woman, the very last thing you do before stepping out onto
the ground is take your foot off the brake pedal. (my required
woman-bashing) I maintain, though, that one day this will lead to a nasty
surprise - perhaps a car in a building or woman under a car. Just one of the
many
HEAVILY against the prawl, anyway.
Wilton
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Or if you're a woman, the very last thing you do before
You should set the brake. That's what it's for, and if that pawl
breaks (and they can), there is nothing to stop the car if the brake
isn't set.
It also keeps it from sticking when you do use it that one time...
I use mine any time I'm not parked on a lever surface.
Peter
My question is: Is it really harmful to let the car come to rest
against the
transmission so to speak?
IMHO, it's only a problem if it's hard to get _out_ of park.
If it is, change your habits. For level ground parking, I
don't bother. I let the car rest in neutral, brakes off, to
take the
clutch
-Curt
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:05:28 -0700
From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:27:35 +1030 Hendrik
On Nov 26, 2007 3:21 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for the suggestion to leave the lever in neutral so that the lever
wouldn't get stuck in 'P' if the parking brake didn't hold on a hill,
would you rather return to your car to find tension on the parking
pawl, or perhaps it's
I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in
position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear
It's not compression, really. Just plain old friction.
-- Jim
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Peter:
I don't have any knowledge to add, but I want to celebrate someone
else's willingness to ask such an open question without flinching at
the inevitable scorn from the seasoned.
Brian
On 11/25/07, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously
I saw a F250 Powerstroke go for a walk once on a lightly sloped parking lot.
We came out of the store, and it was about six feet farther back than we
left it. I wasn't driving, but I'm pretty sure it could not have been in
creeper or reverse. The owner's driveway is steeper than that parking lot
So you're gonna test this by removing the spark plugs and parking on the
side of a hill?
Let us know how you got on.once you're out of
hospital..and got the insurance monkeys off your
back.and the missus lets you back in the house if you promise to
behave.well
I've had the same thing happen in an old air-cooled Beetle.
Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I saw a F250 Powerstroke go for a walk once on a lightly sloped
parking lot. We came out of the store, and it was about six feet
farther back than we left it. I wasn't driving, but I'm pretty
If you were parked on a steep enough hill it will start to roll back a
little. When I first started driving before I got my first car I drove
my dads old 76 Ford F100 with a 3 on the tree. On a steep hill it would
roll back slightly. We are not talking sudden rolling, it would just
start to
, November 26, 2007 7:54 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
If you were parked on a steep enough hill it will start to roll back a
little. When I first started driving before I got my first car I drove
my dads old 76 Ford F100 with a 3 on the tree. On a steep
Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was
always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope,
e-brake and neutral with no park.
In my 300D when I park, I set the parking brake while holding the car
with the foot
Streib
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was
always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope,
e
I saw something like that in Akron about 35 years ago on a sloped parking lot.
About 15 cars slid out of their spaces when the owners parked warm tires on an
iced lot. Interesting to drive through. I don't think compression leak-down
had anything to do with that one.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
test this by removing the spark plugs and parking on the
side of a hill?
Spork plags? What're those? :-)
-- Jim
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That happens all the time here in the mountains. Four brakes engaged on iced
parking lot might hold the vehicle but just the drive wheels in park, you
shut the car door and the car slides away like a hockey puck.
The owner's manual on the 300D gives emergency instructions on how to jump
start the
the windows.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:02:49 -0700
From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop
Auto boxes have a parking engagement device, however I STRONGLY
recommend that everyone get in the habit of using the hand brake, even
on flat ground.
My Mum had an experience recently whereby the car chased her because she
didn't put the car in P properly and either she did not pull on the
Hendrik Fay wrote:
Auto boxes have a parking engagement device, however I STRONGLY
recommend that everyone get in the habit of using the hand brake, even
on flat ground.
My employer at the Saab shop lost a parking pawl about 20 years ago.
He left the car in the handicap spot closest to the
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:27:35 +1030 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hendrik
who likes the RHD 123 dash mounted hand brake and wonders how you do a
smooth hill start in a manual car with a foot operated park brake (eg.
the 124's)
Make sure the foot operated brake is well set.
Put
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Sent: 27 November 2007 07:05
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:27:35 +1030 Hendrik Fay
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hendrik
who likes the RHD 123 dash mounted hand brake and wonders how you do a
smooth
I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in
position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear ( manual
tranny ) . One would think that eventually ( after a few
seconds/minutes ) the rings will leak air and the car would then lurch
fwd and then start a runway.
I'll tell you: I don't know. - Tevye the milkman in Fiddler on the Roof.
When one cylinder leaks down and the crankshaft turns, another
comes up on the compression stroke. Or so it seems to me.
The attempt to move the car with the transmission in any gear
requires turning the engine faster
Older son went to NC State U. football game with his boss. Boss' 80-yr-old
dad, who has had 50-yd-line season tickets for 30 yrs was missing from his
seat for first 30 min. or so. When he finally arrived at his seat, he told
rest of the party that, when he got to his assigned and paid-for
that would be classic; as long as the parking space thieves hadn't
stolen the car, too,...
cheers!
e
wilton strickland wrote:
Older son went to NC State U. football game with his boss. Boss' 80-yr-old
dad, who has had 50-yd-line season tickets for 30 yrs was missing from his
seat for
My first thought, too, was, Sure hope they didn't vandalize Dad's' car
when they returned.
Wilton
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So, do you think a jury would convict, if the owner of the MB just put
her out of her misery?
It was just an old blue 210. Her insurance will cover it. It's not like it
was a 300SL or sumpin'.
RLE
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So, do you think a jury would convict, if the owner of the MB just put her out
of her misery?
Randy
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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:30 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Parking
The owners of new BMWs around here drive like that most of the time anyway.
The people with older bimmers seem more civilized. Possibly because they are
familiar with the post-warranty prices of replacement componentry.
Mac
on 3/19/07 16:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No conspiracy; it was just the typical misunderstood statistical study.
The original only attempted to determine the efficacy of DRL at dusk,
which in the Nordic countries happens for a greater proportion of the day
than it does here far below the artic circle, and probably a fair bit more
than
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