Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As a matter of fact, I have. Replaced them all with good quality copper fuses and cleaned all terminals with DeOxIt. Dan doing the basics > On Mar 16, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Have you CHANGED ALL THE FUSES??? > > > > - >

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-19 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
How many pins are we talking about to chose from? See: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mamerepairs.html#klimatest -- Jim Looks like it was a jumper from 5 to 7. #10 wire works great, but can be done with #12 with a curve at the ends. ___

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yabut, if the KLIMA relay is cutting out the compressor because it thinks the belt is slipping because the compressor RPM signal is degraded (bad pick-up on the sensor, bad wiring / connection), then jumping the pins won't help you diagnose that. It will only help determine if the clutch is going

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
How many pins are we talking about to chose from? See: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mamerepairs.html#klimatest -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread clay via Mercedes
It does feel good to know I can tackle the job. The greater motivation is that I am a cheap *ss B*stard and swinging a wrench saves my wallet from getting too light clay On Mar 15, 2016, at 1:40 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote: > Dan, > I think you should replace most of the partsand

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How many pins are we talking about to chose from? On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 21:25:09 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > When you say right two pins, are you talking passenger side

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 21:25:09 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > When you say right two pins, are you talking passenger side right? > > Thanks, > > Dan He probably means the correct two pins, not the right (as opposed to left) two pins. Which two pins are the

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Two pins in the Klima socket, I can't remember which two. It is somewhere in the archives and I think it is in Jim's archives too. When I said right, I meant "correct" two pins. If I look at a socket, I might be able to remember, as the socket is marked pretty well. When you say right two

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
That's what my 124 did on bad KLIMA. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Dan Penoff" <dpen...@verizon.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 1

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
When you say right two pins, are you talking passenger side right? Thanks, Dan > On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > IF it were mine, a Klima would fix it. (numbers don't lie, (much)) The easy > way to TS is to stick a jumper in the

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
IF it were mine, a Klima would fix it. (numbers don't lie, (much)) The easy way to TS is to stick a jumper in the right two pins of the Klima socket. If it runs, your problem is solved until you can get in a used Klima. I keep spares, so I just pop in another as the #1 step of

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Dan, I think you should replace most of the partsand when something else goes bad, make a really cheap price and sell it to Kaleb. Have you heard the expression about a "cheap Mercedes"? When I have a problem (beyond oil or filter changes), I take my 617s to my Indie and he can fix them

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Wow, is this a record for keeping and driving a car for you? When I bought it, the AC stopped working the second day I owned it. I read through the PO's receipts and found that one indy predicted that the expansion valve would need to be replaced within the year, so I replaced it and the

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I replaced the old compressor due to this issue but it still kicked on and sounded fine, and I suspect it was not actually bad. Before that I am not sure. Ok don had it before me. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2016, at 1:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > If

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Understood. And if I was like Kleb, who has a fleet of vehicles to draw parts from, I would just grab a known good one and have at it. After all, that is a form of troubleshooting if you have the resource. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
If the compressor is pumping and you have equal pressure on both High and Low side.. what ever runs the expansion valve is not working.. or that has or is failing by it's self.. Previous history on this system? Did it have a compressor failure which populated the internals with debris? Are

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The cheap used one may or may not be any good. In my case I would just swap one from many others I have already. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > If it were I, I'd simply swap out the klima relay for a

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No argument with that approach, Dan. I'm just super pragmatic (slapdash, if you prefer) On Mar 15, 2016 12:35 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > I really detest parts swapping. It goes completely against my principles > to do so. > > That being said there are plenty

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I really detest parts swapping. It goes completely against my principles to do so. That being said there are plenty of situations where the percentages are pretty much in replacement favor because you’re more likely than not to resolve the issue, or the part is cheap enough that it’s easy to

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If it were I, I'd simply swap out the klima relay for a cheap used one. On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I know. Don't have time for it right now, will go through the diagnostics > when time permits. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > On Mar 15,

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I know. Don't have time for it right now, will go through the diagnostics when time permits. Thanks, Dan > On Mar 15, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > As I have said before there is a very specific set of tests for this that > must be

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
As I have said before there is a very specific set of tests for this that must be followed in order to determine if the relay is bad or what the problem is. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >> Am I correct in assuming

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Am I correct in assuming this means my KLIMA relay is toast? No, but it's a strong possibility. It could also mean that it detected belt or clutch slippage, and did its job. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I noticed my AC compressor wouldn't come back on after I turned it off in my trip to Orlando Saturday night. I stopped to grab a bite and after turning off the car then turning the car back on, it worked again. Am I correct in assuming this means my KLIMA relay is toast? Dan > On Mar 15,

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The clutch is closed and stays closed the whole time. After the first time of revving the engine and it started cooled it cooled after that even at idle. It's strange. Anyway I will probably go ahead and replace the expansion valve at some point and see what happens. I assume I will need to

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-15 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
The possibilities I can think of are: 1. Debris from previously destroyed compressor periodically blocking open either the expansion valve or a valve in the compressor. 2. Low voltage to clutch or electrical control system at low rpm. (Wiring corrosion? Defective relay? Defective PC board?) 3.

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The compressor is running the whole time. Clutch and compressor new and nothing is slipping. I just put the gauges in it and it has a static pressure high and low the same. I revved the engine up and it is like it woke it up and pressure started acting normal and it started cooling. Sent from

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-14 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Last summer the ac in the ML started only working part time even though > compressor was running. It got worse to the point that it never cooled. > Hooked gauges up and it was not building any pressure even though properly > charged. I ordered a new compressor and

[MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Last summer the ac in the ML started only working part time even though compressor was running. It got worse to the point that it never cooled. Hooked gauges up and it was not building any pressure even though properly charged. I ordered a new compressor and drier and swapped it out and