Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
OK Don wrote: You could also capture the flexing of the tire as it rolls and becomes flat at the bottom with a piezo-electric chip to generate electricity, or do both! Great feature!! It will make good use of our failing washboard and pothole asphalt infrastructure and this feature might also enable better use of the failing railroad infrastructure, turning railroad ties into wonderful roads. It is great that fedgov came up with such great idea! We need more fedgov for more better ideas. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
On Mar 9, 2015 2:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think if all cars had a windmill on top that could generate electricity to run the motors we would see huge fuel savings. http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/29/video-imiev-has-wind-turbine-in-the-grill-solar-panel-on-the-r/ I vaguely recall BMW was working on wind turbines at around the same time, to replace the alternator for performance reasons. I can't imagine that would work well in stop-and-go, though, and I couldn't find the article in a few seconds of searching. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
New tires could generate powerPublished: Monday, March 9, 2015 Goodyear Tire Rubber Co. has introduced a new tire concept that could generate electricity for electric cars. The company announced the BHO3 tire at the Geneva auto show and said the tire offers the possibility of helping recharge batteries of electric cars by converting heat from the rolling tire into electric energy. Most electric cars have a range of 100 miles before they must be recharged. These concept tires reimagine the role that tires may play in the future, said Joe Zekoski, senior vice president and chief technical officer at Goodyear. We envision a future in which our products become more integrated with the vehicle and the consumer, more environmentally friendly and more versatile (Terry Box,*Dallas Morning News* http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/concept-tire-could-generate-electricity.html/, March 6). *-- MH* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
I think if all cars had a windmill on top that could generate electricity to run the motors we would see huge fuel savings. Let's suggest the idea to Senatah Malahkey to push some legislation through! --R On 3/9/15 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: New tires could generate powerPublished: Monday, March 9, 2015 Goodyear Tire Rubber Co. has introduced a new tire concept that could generate electricity for electric cars. The company announced the BHO3 tire at the Geneva auto show and said the tire offers the possibility of helping recharge batteries of electric cars by converting heat from the rolling tire into electric energy. Most electric cars have a range of 100 miles before they must be recharged. These concept tires reimagine the role that tires may play in the future, said Joe Zekoski, senior vice president and chief technical officer at Goodyear. We envision a future in which our products become more integrated with the vehicle and the consumer, more environmentally friendly and more versatile (Terry Box,*Dallas Morning News* http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/concept-tire-could-generate-electricity.html/, March 6). *-- MH* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
OK - they are trying to capture heat and turn it into electricity - that would be a Peltier chip. You could also capture the flexing of the tire as it rolls and becomes flat at the bottom with a piezo-electric chip to generate electricity, or do both! Of course, there will be losses getting the power out of the rotating tire . . . On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: snip The company announced the BHO3 tire at the Geneva auto show and said the tire offers the possibility of helping recharge batteries of electric cars by converting heat from the rolling tire into electric energy. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
What if Jeb Bush or Rick Perry sponsored this idea? Would you still be opposed? On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think if all cars had a windmill on top that could generate electricity to run the motors we would see huge fuel savings. Let's suggest the idea to Senatah Malahkey to push some legislation through! --R On 3/9/15 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: New tires could generate powerPublished: Monday, March 9, 2015 Goodyear Tire Rubber Co. has introduced a new tire concept that could generate electricity for electric cars. The company announced the BHO3 tire at the Geneva auto show and said the tire offers the possibility of helping recharge batteries of electric cars by converting heat from the rolling tire into electric energy. Most electric cars have a range of 100 miles before they must be recharged. These concept tires reimagine the role that tires may play in the future, said Joe Zekoski, senior vice president and chief technical officer at Goodyear. We envision a future in which our products become more integrated with the vehicle and the consumer, more environmentally friendly and more versatile (Terry Box,*Dallas Morning News* http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/concept-tire-could-generate- electricity.html/, March 6). *-- MH* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
Hell no! It's MY idea, so whichever one of the fine representatives of The People push it through, I would be happy! I would probably rather see Cong. Hank Johnson, whose grasp of physics is boundless, propose it though, now that I think about it. --R On 3/9/15 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: What if Jeb Bush or Rick Perry sponsored this idea? Would you still be opposed? On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think if all cars had a windmill on top that could generate electricity to run the motors we would see huge fuel savings. Let's suggest the idea to Senatah Malahkey to push some legislation through! --R On 3/9/15 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: New tires could generate powerPublished: Monday, March 9, 2015 Goodyear Tire Rubber Co. has introduced a new tire concept that could generate electricity for electric cars. The company announced the BHO3 tire at the Geneva auto show and said the tire offers the possibility of helping recharge batteries of electric cars by converting heat from the rolling tire into electric energy. Most electric cars have a range of 100 miles before they must be recharged. These concept tires reimagine the role that tires may play in the future, said Joe Zekoski, senior vice president and chief technical officer at Goodyear. We envision a future in which our products become more integrated with the vehicle and the consumer, more environmentally friendly and more versatile (Terry Box,*Dallas Morning News* http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/concept-tire-could-generate-electricity.html/, March 6). *-- MH* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
What if Jeb Bush or Rick Perry sponsored this idea? Would you still be opposed? stupid is as stupid does. (Forrest Gump) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
Yup. Stupid is as stupid does. -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 2:45 PM What if Jeb Bush or Rick Perry sponsored this idea? Would you still be opposed? On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think if all cars had a windmill on top that could generate electricity to run the motors we would see huge fuel savings. Let's suggest the idea to Senatah Malahkey to push some legislation through! ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!
TANSTAAFL - There ain't no such thing as a free lunch... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last! New tires could generate powerPublished: Monday, March 9, 2015 Goodyear Tire Rubber Co. has introduced a new tire concept that could generate electricity for electric cars. The company announced the BHO3 tire at the Geneva auto show and said the tire offers the possibility of helping recharge batteries of electric cars by converting heat from the rolling tire into electric energy. Most electric cars have a range of 100 miles before they must be recharged. These concept tires reimagine the role that tires may play in the future, said Joe Zekoski, senior vice president and chief technical officer at Goodyear. We envision a future in which our products become more integrated with the vehicle and the consumer, more environmentally friendly and more versatile (Terry Box,*Dallas Morning News* http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/concept-tire-could-generate-electricity.html/, March 6). *-- MH* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
