Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill

2008-11-14 Thread Mak
A nice  way to do a flush- refill.  I  will try it out next time. It Sure 
does save the hassle of  removing the  pipe from the pump reservoir.


regards
mak
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Way behind (on digest) but catching up...

My method:  put front end up on jackstands, position drain pan under pwr 
strg box, remove plug for the centering bolt, turn wheels off center. 
Remove the reservoir cap, all the fluid runs out of the box.


Refill does take some time as there will be a lot of air to work out of 
the system by turning the wheels lock to lock.




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[MBZ] Power steering flush/fill

2008-11-14 Thread Max Dillon
Way behind (on digest) but catching up...

My method:  put front end up on jackstands, position drain pan under pwr strg 
box, remove plug for the centering bolt, turn wheels off center.  Remove the 
reservoir cap, all the fluid runs out of the box.

Refill does take some time as there will be a lot of air to work out of the 
system by turning the wheels lock to lock.



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/s/ 
Max Dillon 
'87 300TD, 310k miles 
Charleston SC 
Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 
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Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance

2008-11-10 Thread Jim Cathey

I think that removing the return line and hand-cranking
the pulley to pump out all the goo works very well.
Just keep topping off the tank and pump until it comes
out clean.  Work the steering back and forth a few times
too.  It's really not that hard, if you take off the
one hose and the belt.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance Auto...

2008-11-10 Thread John Freer
AFAIK, I kind of remember Marshall stating that if you have a
serpentine belt, you need the MB PS fluid. I have always used that as
a rule of thumb.
John

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> Are you saying there's a Mercedes branded ATF as well as antifreeze?  This
>> is news to me.
>
> I'm thinking he used MBZ power steering fluid in his power steering. IIRC,
> Type A ATF was the original fill on older cars (Dexron is OK for
> replacement), and cars made after a certain point should have MBZ PS fluid
> in them. I should find out what my '87 190D and '86 190E take. The '79 300SD
> takes ATF.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance

2008-11-10 Thread Donald Snook
Mitch wrote: "I'm thinking he used MBZ power steering fluid in his power 
steering."

Yes, that is what I meant.

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Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill

2008-11-10 Thread Curt Raymond
I have to. On a new to me car I do it with every oil change for the first maybe 
4 or 5 changes. Change the filter every other or every third.

The filter lives in the bottom of the housing. Really easy all around.

-Curt

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Chris
wrote: "Not sure if that is exactly how I did it, my friend would
remember better...BUT, MY POINT: has anyone done similar? I have used
the "suck out with baster and refill and then repeat" method, but the
full drain above had much better results."

I used my topsider to suck it out, instead of the baster. It cleaned it out 
well.

Donald H. Snook


  
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Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance

2008-11-10 Thread Donald Snook
Chris wrote: "Not sure if that is exactly how I did it, my friend would 
remember better...BUT, MY POINT: has anyone done similar? I have used the "suck 
out with baster and refill and then repeat" method, but the full drain above 
had much better results."

I used my topsider to suck it out, instead of the baster. It cleaned it out 
well.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance Auto...

2008-11-10 Thread Mitch Haley

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Are you saying there's a Mercedes branded ATF as well as antifreeze?  This
is news to me.


I'm thinking he used MBZ power steering fluid in his power steering. IIRC, Type 
A ATF was the original fill on older cars (Dexron is OK for replacement), and 
cars made after a certain point should have MBZ PS fluid in them. I should find 
out what my '87 190D and '86 190E take. The '79 300SD takes ATF.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance Auto...

2008-11-10 Thread Christopher McCann
I replaced PSF (using ATF, of course), by disconnecting the hose from PSP to 
steering box, put an electric motor on the PSP pulley (using the belt) and 
pumped the fluid out. It blasted out like a fire hose. Tried to refill the same 
way, but you cannot pour the ATF into the pump as fast as the pump pumps it 
out, sohmmm...forget what I did then. Then the next time, I didn't use an 
electric motor, I got all the fluid out simply by turning the steering wheel 
back and forth. Then cleaned the inside of the pump of sludgy stuff, replaced 
filter and refilled while friend turned the wheel back and forth till pump was 
full and all bubbles were out.

Not sure if that is exactly how I did it, my friend would remember 
better...BUT, MY POINT: has anyone done similar? I have used the "suck out with 
baster and refill and then repeat" method, but the full drain above had much 
better results.

Thoughts? Am I doing harm using this method?

Chris



Next time, I did the same except just turned the w

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Subject: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re:  Good on Advance Auto...
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Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 2:14 PM

Andrew wrote: "Mobile 1 is to expensive.  What about a Castrol conventional
fluid?"

I bought the REAL Mercedes fluid when I changed the fluid and filter on my 126
gasser.  It wasn't that pricey. I got two bottles of the stuff from Rusty
and the filter. It took less than 2 bottles to drain, fill, drain, fill, drain
and fill.  The fluid looked pretty good after the third drain/fill.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance Auto...

2008-11-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Are you saying there's a Mercedes branded ATF as well as antifreeze?  This
is news to me.

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Andrew wrote: "Mobile 1 is to expensive.  What about a Castrol conventional
> fluid?"
>
> I bought the REAL Mercedes fluid when I changed the fluid and filter on my
> 126 gasser.  It wasn't that pricey. I got two bottles of the stuff from
> Rusty and the filter. It took less than 2 bottles to drain, fill, drain,
> fill, drain and fill.  The fluid looked pretty good after the third
> drain/fill.
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
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[MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance Auto...

2008-11-10 Thread Donald Snook
Andrew wrote: "Mobile 1 is to expensive.  What about a Castrol conventional 
fluid?"

I bought the REAL Mercedes fluid when I changed the fluid and filter on my 126 
gasser.  It wasn't that pricey. I got two bottles of the stuff from Rusty and 
the filter. It took less than 2 bottles to drain, fill, drain, fill, drain and 
fill.  The fluid looked pretty good after the third drain/fill.


Donald H. Snook

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