Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-06 Thread clay monroe
:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-06 Thread clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 3:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-06 Thread Craig
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:38:05 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: why U strip out my pixture? Did you send HTML email with the picture in the middle, or attach the picture to a text email? The latter has worked for me every time, though the last set of pictures took 11 days for Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-04 Thread Fmiser
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: If ever you see a 240D in a junkyard, look for these wheels and grab 'em! Hah! I probably have more W123s here than all the junk yards in the eight surrounding counties have combined!! That's not a difficult feat, since I am aware of _one_ yard in that area

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-04 Thread Rusty Cullens
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades OK.hook set, how $$$? On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: There are still 15 bundts too. But very expensive. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-04 Thread Jon Agne
- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades OK.hook set, how $$$? On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: There are still 15

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Max Dillon
I think Jaime may be able to help you with a source for decent tires that will fit your wheels and your budget. Search his past posts. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Unfortunately, 205/70R14 is very hard these days. I'm running 195/70R14 Vredestein Hi Tracs on my 300D and they're excellent and not too horribly expensive. The only 205/70R14 tire around thats very good is the Vredestein Sprint Classic, but they're $200-250 each. They only make sense on more

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread John Reames
I've been using Michelin primacy on the w210's and pilots on the 123. Big difference from the Pirelli (p4000?) that were on the 123, and the Bridgestone potenza's that were on one of the 210's. The P4000's had comparatively horrid traction (dry, abominable wet) and felt like inner tubes or

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Rich Thomas
When I bought tires at Costco for the 300SD the guy made me sign a waiver as the tires available were not the proper (speed) rating. He explained it had more to do with their ability to handle a big heavy car thrashing around and do it according to the intent of the MB engineers. For general

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: When I bought tires at Costco for the 300SD the guy made me sign a waiver as the tires available were not the proper (speed) rating. He explained it had more to do with their ability to handle a big heavy car thrashing around and do it according to the intent of the MB

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Had me looking for the Facebook like button. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Craig
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 09:43:54 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. And that's $23.50 less than Adsit wants for used wheels! Way to go, Rusty!!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 09:43:54 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. And that's $23.50 less than Adsit wants for used wheels! What about 2104010602? I didn't even think of new, perhaps foolishly, when I

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Craig wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 09:43:54 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. And that's $23.50 less than Adsit wants for used wheels! What about 2104010602

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Craig
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:10:42 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: $300.00 new. :( Mitch wrote: What about 2104010602? I didn't even think of new, perhaps foolishly, when I bought one for $70 last month. What about 210 204 06 02? Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:10:42 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: $300.00 new. :( Mitch wrote: What about 2104010602? I didn't even think of new, perhaps foolishly, when I bought one for $70 last month. What about 210 204 06 02

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Mitch Haley
I couldn't make sense of that number, or any number with 204 as the 4th-6th digits. Mitch. PS, does Craig want that 2126i? Rusty Cullens wrote: What is that? What about 210 204 06 02? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread clay monroe
-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Mitch Haley
clay monroe wrote: have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I would hope that 205-65-15 will still be common in 2015-2020, but can make no guarantees about the future. Plenty of 'small' cars came with 15 in 2005 when I was last

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread clay monroe
, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread clay monroe
I am pretty sure you can find all sorts of tire from any diameter, the trick is to find them with the performance speed ratings needed. The smaller wheel cars of the past decade are probably going to be fine with an S rated tire, which is about the best I can find for the 14. Not good enough

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Jon Agne
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Craig
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:28:15 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: What about 210 204 06 02? What is that? Rusty Cullens Well, I THOUGHT that was the number of the rims we now have on our '95 E320. I went out and checked and saw that the number actually is 210 401

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread buymbparts
: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Factory or cheap aftermarket? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread dseretakis
Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff
My 250LWB had 15 steel wheels. I chose them instead of the 14 bundts that were offered by the seller. I think the car handled and drove a lot better with 15 wheels than the 123s I had previously that had the 14 bundts. Dan On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: This

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
clay monroe wrote: I got off set wrong because of schmutz in the marking. Brake dust and poor striking that dental pick resolved and it is not 96mm but 38mm. R107 offset is around 23mm I thought 96 was impossible, as it's more than double a W210's offset. 38 should be in the feasible range

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase,

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread dseretakis
Might Vredstein make a suitable tire? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:43 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 2, 2013 3:43 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. Identical to '86-'91 126 wheels, should be readily available used. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
OE steel wheels are on there now. They have very old rubber and an offset of 23 8 Hole rims are not on or fitted with rubber. If they are not going to be a feasible solution, I will just put them back on CL and keep looking clay On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: clay monroe

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
I think in 15 that the 6.5 126 wheel with 21.5 offset might be your best bet. 1264004102 They look like this: http://search.ebay.com/290814788683 This does not look like any W126 wheel I know, and the offset looks way wrong, but the price isn't bad: http://search.ebay.com//221056387681

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 2, 2013 4:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: [Adsit] Prices are ridiculous, Indeed. Is Potomac German Auto still in business? I got a used 124 wheel from them about ten years ago for $25 or so plus shipping. It was straight, just needed a sand and spray job. Alex

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread OK Don
I sourced the proper bundt pan wheels for the SLC from the list mom - he had a lot back then, don't know what he has now though. On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Jan 2, 2013 4:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: [Adsit] Prices are

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
I would be happy with those tires, but they are outside my budget. Unless I can snag a set for $600, they are just too expensive. Online prices allow me to purchase two. Probably not ideal to run old tires with new clay On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:47 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Might

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
I have been looking and I can purchase a whole late model 126, but finding the wheels is another story. clay On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jan 2, 2013 3:43 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
Thanks for the data. I am not sure investing in the 15 inch rims is a good proposition. Tires to fit are becoming harder to come by now that tires are being put on a larger wheel. My thought is that I get one good set of tires to fit a 15 now and find in five to seven years that a V rated

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
The new to me 16 wheels will fit the W124 with not much issue. Grows from a 195/60-15 to a 215/60-16 at least they will look much the same as the 8 holes on the car already clay On Jan 2, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jan 2, 2013 4:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Craig
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:42:03 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The new to me 16 wheels will fit the W124 with not much issue. Grows from a 195/60-15 to a 215/60-16 I went to http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html and ran some numbers. The 195/60-15 is 833.0 revs/mile The

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Dan Penoff
ADSIT is a bad place to do business with, and I say this as a former customer. I won't go into details here, but if you want them contact me off list. From what I have seen and heard my experience with them was not unique. PGA is still around and has locations in both Maryland (HQ) and GA.

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Jim Cathey
I suspect the 16 inch wheels will remain a viable option for at least two tire cycles to be able to fit a V rated or H rated sticky tire. Forgive my asking, but where in the greater Seattle area are you ever going to be able to drive fast enough to notice the difference? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Craig
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 19:03:58 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I suspect the 16 inch wheels will remain a viable option for at least two tire cycles to be able to fit a V rated or H rated sticky tire. Forgive my asking, but where in the greater Seattle area are you ever going

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
are they not the exact same body? My understanding is that the ultimate revision was made to the 94/95 models on the 124. Same car as my E300D clay On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:42:03 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The new to me 16 wheels

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
I am never going to get up to any reasonably excessive velocity which would incur the wrath of WSP. The car is rather heavy and I am told the V rating covers the heating of the rubber compound while driving and cornering with that load. I am not planning on being stuck around town, hoping to

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
YES! I would like the option of corner thrashing whilst blasting through the mountain passes in the summer. Lots of twisty parts that so far I have been unwilling to push the car through. Old rubber that is on the verge of dry rot and questionable performance life does not inspire

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Jim Cathey
heating of the rubber compound while driving and cornering with that load. Again, Seattle? Hydroplaning is your worst tire issue! :-) I am sure the road on your side gets warmer and might tax the lesser rubber compounds used in current 14 inch tires. Yes, dry-side summer roads can get a

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread Craig
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 19:59:53 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: If I trusted the '95 E320 to have the same fender clearance as our '94 E420, I could put the 215/55-16 tires with which the E420 came on our E320. They are 797 revs/mile, a 1.3% error. are they not the exact same

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
I have the memory seats in the 95 and I think the same with the steering wheel as your 420. Being diesel it has the vented fender for intake. no idea if it has wider fender well than any other, but the tires seem to fit inside with room for more clay On Jan 2, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Craig

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-02 Thread clay monroe
SWMBA has her hiyundie-eh? that is used to transport boy #1 to MT for college in August. We got her new rubber when she got back this fall. Four trips and three years did the tires in. I put some schwab rubber on the E300D. They are pretty much garbage. Excessive hydroplaning and

[MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-01 Thread clay monroe
Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-01 Thread OK Don
IIRC, which is in doubt, I was running 205/60 15's on the SLC with aftermarket wheels (ugly). The front tires would rub on the innner fender wells when the wheel was cranked to the stop, and might rub the fender opening if you hit a large bump during a turn. Otherwise, they were fine. On Tue, Jan

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-01 Thread dseretakis
I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-01 Thread clay monroe
I got off set wrong because of schmutz in the marking. Brake dust and poor striking that dental pick resolved and it is not 96mm but 38mm. R107 offset is around 23mm I used an offset calculator to figure out what size donuts to toss on. Being able to have more options of tires and sizes

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-01 Thread Craig
On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 17:49:33 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I got off set wrong because of schmutz in the marking. Brake dust and poor striking that dental pick resolved and it is not 96mm but 38mm. R107 offset is around 23mm I used an offset calculator to figure out what

Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades

2013-01-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Go fo some twennytoos o twennyfos yo. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 1, 2013, at 8:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic