Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-15 Thread OK Don
I used spit. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:28:45 -0500 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That's the general idea. Larry, did you try a bit of soapy water on the bushing? That might help slide her in place. I used

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-14 Thread Benz Hogs
That's the general idea. Larry, did you try a bit of soapy water on the bushing? That might help slide her in place. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) On 7/10/2013 10:37 PM, OK Don wrote: I actually found my shifter bushing installation tool while looking for a

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-14 Thread OK Don
Also be certain that not part of the tool you are using is impeding the bushing on the back side! On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That's the general idea. Larry, did you try a bit of soapy water on the bushing? That might help slide her in place.

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-14 Thread Craig
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:28:45 -0500 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That's the general idea. Larry, did you try a bit of soapy water on the bushing? That might help slide her in place. I used Vasoline petroleum jelly. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have one that I guess is the official tool it's a pair of long pliers you put the bushing on one side, put it over the lever squeeze the pliers and it pops right in, takes just a second to do. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:37 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I actually found

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I've always managed to get those suckers in without tools, fiddly but doable. Hendrik whose plastic thingies are in good shape, last time I looked On 10/07/13 21:10, Mitch Haley wrote: Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I must have missed

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-11 Thread Larry T
Wow Hendrik!! You must have fingers like steel traps!! Got some Bionic parts in there, Huh? Actually I replaced them on my W123 but I cannot remember how I actually got it/them to pop into place Can't believe the W124 is significantly worse than the W123? The ones on my 240D lasted

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Actually meant to write, without the special tool I use a screwdriver and ordinary pliers from memory. You have to put one side in and then squash up the other to get it to pop in. Hendrik who is not the six million dollar man On 12/07/13 07:58, Larry T wrote: Wow Hendrik!! You must have

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-11 Thread OK Don
It only works that way because you're up-side-down ;-) The bushings were the same for the 107, 115,123,124,and 126, with minor variations in the available space to work in On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Actually meant to write, without the special

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Larry T
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124 Even if you could do it from inside, I think it would be easier from under the car - no seats, steering wheels, etc. in the way. They are at or near the bottom of the tranny level, on the (cars) left side - just

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Larry T
I have a LOT of pliers of all types - hopefully I have one that will fit Thanks - Larry On 7/9/2013 10:43 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: That Viton is stiff enough it would be VERY difficult to insert by hand. Easy enough with pliers or channel-locks with a bit of silicone grease, but I

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Larry T
I must have missed the post describing the tool.. can you repost it? Larry On 7/9/2013 8:26 PM, Benz Hogs wrote: If you have 17 or 18 inch forearms and hands that are similar to a 5'2 woman, yes. It's fairly tight above and beside the trans, so I would plan for the tool. Luther KB5QHU

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Larry T wrote: I must have missed the post describing the tool.. can you repost it? This one? Mitch. My version of that would be such: (new modification for easier use) 2 1/4-20 bolt 1 or 1-1/8 fender washer 1 PVC cap with hole drilled for 1/4 bolt 1/4-20 nut Instructions: place fender

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I must have missed the post describing the tool.. can you repost it? And, if you have extra money burning a hole in your pocket... https://mercedessource.com/store/automatic-transmission-shift-rod-bushing-replacement-tool

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I must have missed the post describing the tool.. can you repost it? And, if you have extra money burning a hole in your pocket...

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T, S124

2013-07-10 Thread MG
When I did this on my 83 300D the shifter itself was loose so I took out the whole shifter and replaced the bushings in it and of course the rod bushing on the end at the same time while it was out of the car. Made it like new and no more noise. The one on the transmission was the fun one for

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Dieselhead
I have a LOT of pliers of all types - hopefully I have one that will fit Thanks - Larry They are very difficult to put in with channellocks, Impossible by hand. A bolt, stack of washers and a socket (pipe cap) as Luther described works best. On the 107, I took off the trans arm to

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Larry T
Thanks Luther - The part about the PVC Cap is a little foggy but if I follow the directions it will become clear when I try it Thanks again - Larry On 7/10/2013 7:15 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Larry T wrote: I must have missed the post describing the tool.. can you repost it?

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Larry T
Thanks! I'll try Luther's method and am sure it will work perfectly. Thanks again - Larry On 7/10/2013 11:07 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I have a LOT of pliers of all types - hopefully I have one that will fit Thanks - Larry They are very difficult to put in with channellocks, Impossible

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Larry T wrote: Thanks Luther - The part about the PVC Cap is a little foggy but if I follow the directions it will become clear when I try it Goes on the far side of the linkage as a receptacle for the small end of the bushing after it punches through. Same reason why one side of the

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-10 Thread Benz Hogs
Yes, that exactly. Good, no, great explanation. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) On 7/10/2013 2:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Larry T wrote: Thanks Luther - The part about the PVC Cap is a little foggy but if I follow the directions it will become clear when I

[MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Larry T
I need to replace subject bushing - can I do it fro above by removing the gear shift surround or must I work from below?? any idea what section of the WSM I'd find this is? Thx Larryt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Craig
On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:19:58 -0400 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I need to replace subject bushing - can I do it fro above by removing the gear shift surround or must I work from below?? If it's like a W123, you have to do it from below. any idea what section of the WSM I'd find

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Larry T
Bummer! ;-) Thanks - Larry On 7/9/2013 3:30 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:19:58 -0400 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I need to replace subject bushing - can I do it fro above by removing the gear shift surround or must I work from below?? If it's like a W123, you have to do

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread OK Don
Even if you could do it from inside, I think it would be easier from under the car - no seats, steering wheels, etc. in the way. They are at or near the bottom of the tranny level, on the (cars) left side - just jack up the port side, and have at it. The job is too simple to need the WSM :-) On

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Peter Frederick
Taking the shift lever out isn't a trivial exercise in a Benz. Vastly easier from underneath, although a lift REALLY helps so you can get at the lever. You can press the bushing in with channel locks easy enough if you have room to use them, which you don't on jackstands. Peter

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Larry T
Hi Peter -- Would you say it is impossible to force the bushings into the lever with my hand? Is it a not enough silicone in the world situation? Thanks - Larry On 7/9/2013 6:53 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Taking the shift lever out isn't a trivial exercise in a Benz. Vastly easier from

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Larry T
Thanks Don! ;-) Larry On 7/9/2013 6:47 PM, OK Don wrote: Even if you could do it from inside, I think it Thanks Don!would be easier from under the car - no seats, steering wheels, etc. in the way. They are at or near the bottom of the tranny level, on the (cars) left side - just jack up the

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Benz Hogs
If you have 17 or 18 inch forearms and hands that are similar to a 5'2 woman, yes. It's fairly tight above and beside the trans, so I would plan for the tool. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) On 7/9/2013 7:12 PM, Larry T wrote: Hi Peter -- Would you say it is

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 6:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124 Even if you could do it from inside, I think it would be easier from under the car - no seats, steering wheels, etc. in the way. They are at or near the bottom

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread OK Don
Very true -- On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I agree if you are only replacing the grommets under the car. But if you also need to replace the bushings for the fore-aft pivot of the shifter you have to open it up from the top anyway. -- OK Don

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread OK Don
The nylon bushing has to be compressed significantly to get into the hole in the arm. I was not able to get them in with channel locks, though some have been able to. I found that a home-made tool, as described by Luther, works great! On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Below Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I need to replace subject bushing - can I do it fro above by removing the gear shift surround or must I work from below?? any idea what section of the WSM I'd find this is? Thx Larryt

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
pivot of the shifter you have to open it up from the top anyway. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 6:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Fmiser
Larry wrote: Hi Peter -- Would you say it is impossible to force the bushings into the lever with my hand? Is it a not enough silicone in the world situation? If it's like the W123, it requires a hardy squeeze with the pliers, so I don't think an average fellow could do it with just hands.

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Peter Frederick
That Viton is stiff enough it would be VERY difficult to insert by hand. Easy enough with pliers or channel-locks with a bit of silicone grease, but I doubt an ordinary mortal could get them in with fingers. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124 Even if you could do it from inside, I think it would be easier from under the car - no seats, steering wheels, etc. in the way. They are at or near the bottom of the tranny level, on the (cars) left side