Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
z.com> Sent: 01 May 2017 14:02 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off If you sit in the seat in a quiet area, you should be able to hear the pupm running back by the rear axle when you turn on the key. If you have a who

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
When those cars sit more often that not the fuel pumps lock up. You can try reversing the polarity on the pump back and forth to work it loose. Otherwise you will need to replace the pumps. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Every car I have worked on had the terminal block. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am thinkin they are talking about gen 1 126. I seem to think the terminal > block was present on gen 2 126. Been a while

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I haven't opened up a front door so don't know. Taking your approach would have required doing that, collecting up the bits, which was more than I wanted to do this decade. --FT On 5/1/17 2:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: this is rear door only? If I encountered that I surely cut

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I have wild life around here. Also lots of animals making noise. --FT On 5/1/17 2:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: If you sit in the seat in a quiet area, you should be able to hear the pupm running back by the rear axle when you turn on the key. If you have a whole bunch of tree

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
this is rear door only? If I encountered that I surely cut the wires and either put in a terminal block or spliced with wire nuts. Dan--- via Mercedes May 1, 2017 at 12:41 PM What Floyd said. Both of my 1990 W126 chassis' cars are wired directly to the switch.

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
If you sit in the seat in a quiet area, you should be able to hear the pupm running back by the rear axle when you turn on the key. If you have a whole bunch of tree frogs singin or some such clatter, you won't be able to hear it unless you crawl under with the switch ON. Floyd Thursby via

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I cracked the lines coming off the injector distributor (whatever it is called) and got a bit of fuel out of the one to the rear. The front one goes through something that looks like a filter or regulator or something, then down to the engine in front, then another hose comes back up and then

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
What Floyd said. Both of my 1990 W126 chassis' cars are wired directly to the switch. This I know as I disconnected the motor on my 300SEL in order to remove it from the door. -D > On May 1, 2017, at 1:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > No. The 84 SDs

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
No. The 84 SDs have that arrangement but this 88 the motor wires are right in the switch block, green and black. The switch has 3 other wires going into it, I guess power, ground, and power from the front switch. That was new to me and it made me wonder what they were thinking as it is not

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I am thinkin they are talking about gen 1 126. I seem to think the terminal block was present on gen 2 126. Been a while since I worked on a 126 motor. I've never touched a gen 1. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes May 1, 2017 at 12:28 PM The wires to the motors

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The wires to the motors should go to a double wiring block deal in the door with 2 Phillips head screws. Does yours not have this? Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Since I didn't sget the car started I worked on

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Yes, the W126 window motors are wired directly to the switch. You chose wisely by removing the motor in situ. That's what I had to do when I replaced the "sliding jaw" on the LR window regulator on the 300SEL. -D > On May 1, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-05-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Since I didn't get the car started I worked on the LR window, which was down and wouldn't move. Looked like the PO had started to take it apart and gave up. Having considerable experience in windows I got it apart right quick and saw a busted plastic slide. I fortunately had one (2

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Better yet, quotes page…. -D > On Apr 30, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’m not touching this with a ten foot pole. > >> On Apr 30, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> With the squirt bottle you can add a

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m not touching this with a ten foot pole. > On Apr 30, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > With the squirt bottle you can add a little oil for extra lubrication on > startup. Much of what I work on is 2 stroke but I don't think the extra > lubrication hurts a 4

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
With the squirt bottle you can add a little oil for extra lubrication on startup. Much of what I work on is 2 stroke but I don't think the extra lubrication hurts a 4 stroke any... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Either that or some ether, carefully dispensed. -D > On Apr 30, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've got a little squirt bottle of gas I use for priming small engines. Shoot > a little in the intake and fire it off. Tells you if spark and air

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: archer75--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Floyd Thursby wrote: > I put in the battery and a coupla gallons of gas into the tank and > cranked on it for a minute or two a couple times. Got oel pressure so > that is good. No luck getting it to fire. I'm thinking I should get a > new fuel filter tomorrow and try to replace that before

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Unless they ran it till it was completely dry then it was bound to have some fuel in the tank. The fuel will be in the lines as well which will be just like the fuel in the tank, which you don't want getting to the distributor Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Klebster is right on, but if that is the case then nearly everything crud-wise will be in the filter, so dump it and install a new one before you do amy more. If the tank was completely dry as you describe it’s unlikely anything came off when you filled it, there just might have been some

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
There was nothing in the tank but I guess I loosed it all by putting in new fuel. But yeah... --FT On 4/30/17 1:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Well you made a big mistake not draining the tank, disconnecting and blowing out the fuel lines font to back, replacing fuel filter. If

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Well you made a big mistake not draining the tank, disconnecting and blowing out the fuel lines font to back, replacing fuel filter. If the pumps were working you just flushed crap from the tank and lines into the fuel distributor. Could you hear the pumps running? If you look down the filler

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Good point. I'll go do that, see if the pump is pumping. I'll CHECK THE FUSES too. I guess there is a relay somewhere too. --FT On 4/30/17 1:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Possibly, but I would also crack a line in the engine compartment with the key on to see if you’re getting

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Possibly, but I would also crack a line in the engine compartment with the key on to see if you’re getting fuel pressure. I don’t think the car has a test port with a Schrader valve in the fuel line like later models do. Mine doesn’t. -D > On Apr 30, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via

[MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

2017-04-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I put in the battery and a coupla gallons of gas into the tank and cranked on it for a minute or two a couple times. Got oel pressure so that is good. No luck getting it to fire. I'm thinking I should get a new fuel filter tomorrow and try to replace that before carrying on? Any other